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Re: Kuriositäten in Zep-Songs
Black Dog - 28.05.2006, 20:41Kuriositäten in Zep-Songs
Viel Spass beim Nachhören ;-)
What about the studio chatter? Nah, leave it, yeah.
Across the Zeppelin catalogue, various songs incorporate some
form of additional dialogue. This ranges from unintelligible
background chatter to timeless lines such as "Shall we roll it
Jimmy?"
o "You Shook Me" - The way this song is produced there are echoes
all over the place, and if you turn the volume right up and listen
to it on headphones, occasionally you can hear faint sounds such
as at 0:24 in the left speaker which sound like far off voices.
Much more obvious is Plant's laugh at 1:45, and his "Ooh, ooh,
ohh..." at 3:18. Harder to pick is what sounds like Plant
crooning something along the lines of "Doobee-doo-doo..." at 4:45,
which you can just make out through the static in the right
speaker if you listen very closely. A few other miscellaneous
moans from Plant can be heard at 3:35 and 3:56.
o "Your Time Is Gonna Come" - Right at the very end of the song,
just as the first notes of "Black Mountainside" are about to be
played, and this is first noticeable at about the 4:33 mark, Plant
can be heard to say what sounds like 'Wait for ya, Wait for ya...'
o "Friends" - Before the song starts and for the first few moments
once it begins talking can be heard in the background, what is
being said though is impossible to make out. However, at about
the 0.09 mark, just as the bass guitar starts, Jimmy can be heard
to exclaim 'Fuck!' About the same time someone can be heard
saying 'Ssh!' Why Page says this is not clear, maybe Jones
started before he was ready, and possibly the other person was
telling the people speaking in the background to quieten down.
One of the voices in the right channel sounds like Peter Grant.
o "The Lemon Song" - Plant can be faintly heard to yell something
unintelligible at the 1:58 and 2:04 points in the song. This can
be heard in the left channel.
o "Since I've Been Loving You" - Just before Page's solo starts
Plant shouts 'Watch out!' This happens around 3:38 into the song.
Also worth noting is Plant's "Oh..." at the 53 second mark as Page
and Bonham really begin to wind up.
o "Out On The Tiles" - Between the 10 and 11 second marks a voice
can be heard in the left channel to say what sounds like `Stop.'
Also, at the 1:23 mark Page clearly says `Stop'. He did this to
remind himself to get the timing straight on the riff because he
kept screwing it up in practice. Or so rumour has it. However,
the voice actually sounds more like Plant than Page, and the
rumoured explanation for that is that Page was making faces at him
as he was trying to do the vocal track.
o "Tangerine" - The count in which goes 'one, two' and then barely
spoken, 'one, two, three, four, one, two,' is provided by Page.
o "The Crunge" - at the end of the song in a continuation of the
final lyrics about looking for a bridge, Plant asks, 'Where's that
confounded bridge?' Anyone in doubt as to whether it's Plant
should have a close listen to the version of "Whole Lotta Love" on
the bootleg of the 13/7/73 Detroit show. During the theremin
section Plant exclaims, `Where's that confounded bridge?!' in
exactly the same voice as he does on the studio version of "The
Crunge". Jimmy and engineer George Chkiantz can be heard talking
before Bonzo comes in on the intro. The conversation sounds
something like,
Jimmy Page : "One more straight away George."
George Chkiantz : "You like it?"
Jimmy Page : "Right... [obscured by the start of the song]"
o "The Ocean" - at the start of the song Bonzo says, 'We've done
four already, but now we're steady, and then they went, one, two,
three, four...' He is referring to the number of previous takes
they had done on the song. Also, at the 4:20 mark Plant very
clearly half sings "Oh, so good". This song also features some
rather unusual, for Zep, backing vocals which start around the
3:40 mark in the form of 'Doo wop doo, doo wop doo...' Also at
this point, buried in a background part of the mix Plant can be
heard to say `I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, yeah'. He then
does some `woo-hoo-hoo' style harmonising before apologising
again. There is some other stuff he seems to be singing but it
is unintelligible.
o "In My Time Of Dying" - Getting towards the end of the song, Plant
half sings 'Oh, feels pretty good up here... pretty good up here.'
Surely the understatement of the century. At the end of the song
a discussion something like this takes place,
Someone : [loud cough]
Plant : [sings the last line of the song] "Cough."
Bonzo : "That's gotta be the one... hasn't it?"
Someone : [continued quieter coughing as Bonzo says the
above]
Ron Nevison [?] : "Come and have a listen then."
Jones [?] : "Oh yes, thank you."
Other discussions are taking place in the background but it is
not possible to make out what is being said. Also noticeable is
someone coughing at the 40 second mark.
o "Black Country Woman" - at the start of the song which was
recorded outdoors at Headley Grange an airplane can clearly be
heard flying overhead and the following conversation takes place,
Eddie Kramer : "Shall we roll it Jimmy? We're rolling on, er..."
[Someone] : "One."
Eddie Kramer : "One, oh, one again."
[laughter] : [Plant?]
Eddie Kramer : "Can't keep this airplane on."
Robert Plant : "Nah, leave it, yeah.
o "Boogie With Stu" - After the song finishes laughter can clearly
be heard, the last laugh in this case certainly sounds like it is
most likely Plant. The first laugh on the other hand could well
be Page.
o "Achilles Last Stand" - Some listmembers with amazing hearing
claim to be able to heard a very faint "Yeah" somewhere between
the 7:17 and 7:20 point in the song, just between the second and
third of four note bends Jimmy is doing at the time. The exact
point of the sound is around 7:18.
o "Hot Dog" - The `One, two, three, four' count-in, where Jones can
be heard to noodle on the bass momentarily as `three' is said,
sounds like it's more likely to be Jones than Page.
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1.4 - Will someone answer that phone!
There seems to be a wealth of unusual and interesting background
noises, and in some cases foreground noises, in Led Zeppelin songs,
some of which are so obvious you really wonder how you missed them
when you listened to that song the first 5,000 times.
o "Good Times Bad Times" - A suggsted explanation for the hollow
sound that Bonzo makes during the opening of the song is that he
might have been hitting a cymbal stand. The sound is a crisp,
metallic type sound, which gives the impression that a hollow
object of this nature is being struck. On the other hand, this
could well be a cymbal.
o "I Can't Quit You Baby" - Referring to the version on the first
album, the odd metallic sound heard on "Good Times Bad Times"
recurs through this song as well, which suggests it is probably
a cymbal. It doesn't sound as hollow on this song.
o "Whole Lotta Love" - Plant can be clearly heard to laugh just
prior to the start of the song. The middle section features a lot
of randon knob twisting in the studio from Page and Eddie Kramer.
o "The Lemon Song" - A gong can be heard right at very beginning
of the song.
o "Moby Dick" - Careful listening to this song reveals a variety of
noises which could range from Bonham moving about on the drum
stool to various sqeaking noises, probably drum pedals. There is
a particularly odd scraping noise at 1:58.
o "Immigrant Song" - The odd buzzing sounds at the beginning of the
song are tape noises coupled with the count in.
o "Friends" - The fret buzz in parts of the song is due to the
guitar being in a different tuning where the sixth string is
quite loose, which combined with poor fingering at that fret
causes the string to buzz on the fret. The tuning Jimmy is
using is a C tuning, C, G, C, G, C, E, where the low E is tuned
down 2 whole steps.
o "Celebration Day" - The drone that carries over from "Friends" is
there to compensate for the rhythm track which was accidentally
erased during recording.
o "Since I've Been Loving You" - the bass drum pedal has a clearly
audible squeak about which Page recently said, 'It sounds louder
every time I hear it!' Also, as Plant is singing the first line
of the song, "Working from seven..." while he sings "from" a
strange wheezing sound can be heard in the left channel.
o "Bron-Y-Aur Stomp" - Some interesting extra instruments in this
song are spoons and castanets, all played by John Bonham.
o "Black Dog" - In the early stages of the song Bonzo can be heard
clicking his drumsticks together, keeping time for the band.
o "Stairway To Heaven" - Not really a weird sound, but the subject
of some occasional discussion in the wind instrument being played
at the start of the song. It is a recorder and it's being played
by John Paul Jones. This instrument was incorrectly claimed to be
a mellotron by _Q_ magazine in 1995.
o "Misty Mountain Hop" - There is a mistake in this song in the line
that begins "There you sit...", but the band apparently felt the
rest of the take was too good to warrant discarding it.
o "Four Sticks" - There is the sound of possibly either a cough or
someone exhaling at the five second mark of the song. Then again
in the left channel at the 41 and 43 second marks, a very similar
sound, that sounds like an exhalation. This occurs again at 1:51.
Someone, possibly Page, may have had a microphone a little too
close to their face. The same sound, although fainter and closer
to the middle in terms of the channels, occurs at the 30 and 37
second mark.
o "When The Levee Breaks" - The titanic drum sound was created
through experimentation by Page and Andy Johns with Page's
penchant for distance miking. In perhaps the ultimate case of
this, they had Bonzo set up his kit, a brand new one, in the
stone stairwell at Headley Grange and experimented with
microphones in various positions before placing one a few flights
of stairs above him. A similar technique was used by producer
Don Was and the Rolling Stones on the song "Moon Is Up", where
drummer Charlie Watts is playing at the bottom of a stairwell.
Right near the end of the song, where the sound is panning all
over the place, the basic riff is also played backwards at one
point. The idea of reversing riffs is not all that uncommon,
Jimi Hendrix did it frequently.
o "The Rain Song" - Bonham's squeaky drum pedal can be heard on this
song. The string on this song are not real and are actually John
Paul Jones on a mellotron, an early synthesizer.
o "Over The Hills And Far Away" - Another track where Bonham's
squeaky pedal can be heard, most clearly from about the three
minute mark onwards.
o "The Crunge" - Again, a sequaky drum pedal can be heard,
especially at the start of the song where just the bass and the
drums are being played. Page can be heard to depress the whammy
bar, he used a Stratocaster on this song, at the end of each
phrase.
o "Dancing Days" - Another track on "Houses Of The Holy" where
Bonham's squeaky drum pedal was somehow overlooked.
o "No Quarter" - In a _Guitar_World_ interview Page revealed he
lowered the track half a tone to make "the track sound so much
thicker and more intense." Plant's voice is also slightly
flanged, while Page uses a theremin to create the moaning of
"the dogs of doom" that Plant sings about.
o "The Ocean" - A phone can clearly be heard ringing at about the
1:38 point in the song. The sheet music that accompanies the box
set has the word `ring' printed twice above the percussion tab
of this song, so the inclusion of the phone sounds like it was
intentional. As well as this, there is also the sound of the
squeaky bass drum pedal that is present on "Since I've Been
Loving" you, which is most apparent in the early parts of the
song. And, yet more odd noises occur at 1:59-2:00 and 2:12-2:13
where it sounds like someone is making the `c' sound, as in the
first letter of the word `cat'. Just as Bonham comes to "Two" in
the introduction you can hear the first five notes far off in the
distance, the result of some sort of production glitch.
o "In My Time Of Dying" - Some members of the list with very keen
hearing have in the past claimed to have heard the sound a
television makes when it's turned on, about half way through this
song. The sound they are hearing is produced by the high voltage
power supply, or more specifically, the flyback transformer,
of the tv which is somewhere around 32,000 volts for color
televisions. Not so much a weird noise, as an anomaly, at the
5:44 mark it sounds like Bonham misses a beat. Them cymbals
continue as they are but at that time it sounds a bit like a
drumbeat is missing.
o "Houses Of The Holy" - Recorded initially for the album of the
same name, the squeaky drum pedal that can be heard on a lot of
the tracks from that album can also be heard on this song. At
the 3:41 mark a strange sound, resembling a bird call, can be
heard clearly.
o "Kashmir" - The orchestra riff that is first heard at the 1:19
point in the song can be heard earlier, in the left channel, very
faintly, after each line of the first verse, such as at 0:25,
0:34 and 0:43. What this is, is the original track using the
orchestra that was wiped off, but a slight "ghost" of that
recording remains and is slightly audible.
o "Night Flight" - A strange hissing sound can be heard for around
half a second in the right channel before the organ starts.
o "Ten Years Gone" - The squeaky bass drum pedal that was noted in
"The Ocean" and "Since I've Been Loving You" occurs here as well,
although slightly quieter than on both previous occasions. Also,
at the 2:59 mark, and faintly in the left channel, a strange sound
can be heard, which has been suggested as the sound of a guitar
being plugged in. Another sound, sounding much more like a guitar
being plugged in occurs between 5:44 and 5:47.
o "Sick Again" - Bonzo can be heard to cough faintly at the end of
the song.
o "Achilles Last Stand" - Despite Page's assertions that there
weren't any keyboards on "Presence" between 6:54 and 7:00, on the
ascending runs with the staccato background guitar, you can hear
what sounds very much like a keyboard. It could also be an
extremely affected guitar sound though. Bonham is said to groan
at one point during the song, but the time for that is unclear.
o "For Your Life" - Plant makes two weird noises after the lines,
'Wanna find myself a crystal, Payin' through the nose.' The two
noises sound very much like a snort, most likely a play on the
line about crystals and paying through the nose, in reference to
cocaine. This starts at around the 5:30 point in the song.
o "In The Evening" - The third Zeppelin song on which Page uses the
violin bow, the others being "How Many More Times" and "Dazed And
Confused", the unusual noises in the guitar solo are caused by the
springs of a fully depressed whammy bar.
o "Fool In The Rain" - An odd noise can clearly be heard at the 1:05
point in the song. The sound occurs just after the line `And you
said that you'd always be true'. The sound is most likely Plant,
and may be some sort of play on that line. The sound itself is
like a sort of `ppttt' noise made with the lips. A suggested
explanation for this involves the meaning of the prior line of the
song. When someone makes a hand shape like a gun with a clenched
fist, extended fore-finger and raised thumb, the sound they most
commonly make when they `fire' the gun is similar to this noise,
a sort of `ppttt' noise made with the lips. Hence, it may be that
Plant was firing off a shot at someone that had not been true to
him. This is a rather tenuous theory however.
o "Carouselambra" - The unusual sounds that have been described as
`percolating' that occur in this song are most likely to be Bonham
hitting some sort of drum as they follow a rhythmic pattern, which
rules out other explanations such as perhaps a bong.
o "Wearing And Tearing" - At the 0:19 mark a sound that is similar
to a phone ringing, one of the newer ones, not the older ones that
actually make a ringing noise, can be heard in the right channel.
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Re: Kuriositäten in Zep-Songs
maGGus - 28.05.2006, 20:52
oha, wenn ich mal pberhaupt nix zu tun hab... weiß ich jetzt was ich machen kann :D
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