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Re: Parts of USAF Bomber
schiefer1000 - 15.09.2007, 16:44Parts of USAF Bomber
Hallo Leute
Vor einiger Zeit erfuhr von einem Landwirt den ungefähren Absturzort eines Amerikanischen Bombers. Ich habe die Stelle mit dem Metaldetektor gesucht und wurde schnell fündig. Ein kleines Waldstück auf einem Berg in Niederösterreich das übersäht mit Teilen des Bombers ist. Ich habe die Stelle mittlerweile 2 mal besucht und hab ingesamt 4 Kisten mit Teilen geborgen. Die meisten Teile sind geschmolzenes Alu/Eisen, hunderte Bmg Hülsen,unmengen an Plexiglas, Schrauben usw. Doch auch interessante Cockpit Teile wie Schalter und Armaturen Reste hab ich gefunden. Weiters habe ich mehrere "Bomb Hooks" und sehr viele Flak West Platten gefunden. Ich hatte noch nicht viel Zeit die Teile zu sortieren doch ich habe mal ein paar Teile, die für mich interessant aussehen,Fotografiert. Ich werde immer wieder wenn ich Zeit habe neue Teile einsstellen vielleicht kann ja was indentifiziert werden ;) Bin zwar nicht sehr gut in englisch werde aber versuchen das ganze zu übersetzen.
A Few weeks ago a farmer told me about a crash site from a american Bomber. I searched for site and found it with a metal detektor. The crash site is on a small mountain in Austria. I visited the crash site a few times and I already found 4 Boxes full of Parts. The most parts are melted Aluminim, lots of BMG Rounds, Plexiglas but also interesting things like cockpit parts. I took a couple of Fotos from the parts that look interesting to me. In the next time I will post more fotos of interesting parts. Maybe some things can get identified.
Greetings Simon
Re: Parts of USAF Bomber
schiefer1000 - 15.09.2007, 17:02
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schiefer1000 - 15.09.2007, 19:18
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Re: Parts of USAF Bomber
schiefer1000 - 15.09.2007, 19:27
Re: Parts of USAF Bomber
Paul - 15.09.2007, 19:37
Hallo,
Do you have a date for this crash?
Gr.
Paul
Re: Parts of USAF Bomber
schiefer1000 - 15.09.2007, 19:52
Not yet. I try to find out the date of the crash.
greetings Simon
Re: Parts of USAF Bomber
WNF - 15.09.2007, 21:51
Bild Nr. 6 ist eine "Starre" Camlock Haltenocke, es ist mehr oder weniger ein Schnellverschluss, diese gibt es auch als "Schwimmende / Bewegliche" ausführung. Man findet sich oft bei Wartungdeckel oder Rumpfteilen die man schnell abnehmen muss für Wartungen etc. ! Wo ist der Fundsort bzw welche grössere ortschaft ist in der nähe?
picture nr 6 is a "Camlock", you will find this part in every Aircraft.
Where in Lower Austria is the crashplace? Please tell me the city name and i can look in my list of Lower Austria.
Re: Parts of USAF Bomber
Roy N - 15.09.2007, 22:43
whats a "camlock" ?
i have one as well
Re: Parts of USAF Bomber
schiefer1000 - 15.09.2007, 23:04
Danke für die Antwort habe ingesamt schon sicher 10 von den dingern gefunden. Teilweise noch mit schönen Lackresten. Größere Ortschaften wären Neunkirchen Ternitz Puchberg wenn man das als groß bezeichnen kann.
Thanks for the Answer. I alredy found about 10 of those locks.
Mfg Simon
Re: Parts of USAF Bomber
WNF - 15.09.2007, 23:40
also da hätten wir mal in der richtung:
23.4.44 - B24H - ser.nr. 41-29326 - Altendorf bei Gloggnitz ??
wir hätten dann noch einige in Kirchberg am Wechsel einen in Mollram aber das ist dann schon eher wieder richtung Neustadt .... Name des Fundortes wäre halt besser.
PS: du bist aus meiner gegend ;)
On 23.4.44 there crahed a B24H Ser.Nr. 41-29326 in the near of the village´s names what you write down ... i think the exactly name of the village is better because in this area there we have a lot of crashes ;)
PS: you live next to me :D
Re: Parts of USAF Bomber
WNF - 15.09.2007, 23:44
Roy N wrote: whats a "camlock" ?
i have one as well
:D i will make (sunday or monday) a detail picture of a camlock and a picture for what is used a camlock ... i can not tell it in english, sorry :sad:
Re: Parts of USAF Bomber
MUCKS - 15.09.2007, 23:59
Hi Simon.
Picture 16,looks like a radiator cap complete with the chain so you can't drop or loose the cap.The design of the cap is the same as modern caps with the two ears which allows you to grip to either tighten or loosen, is the under side threaded?
So are we looking for a inline water cooled engine bomber??
Martin
Re: Parts of USAF Bomber
WNF - 16.09.2007, 00:15
:!: :!: Oh Oh Oh !!!!
i have found in you pictures "cal.50bmg" Projectiles!! Don´t take it at home !!!!! Be Carefull.
Have you learn anything in the ARMY about cal.50bmg Ammo ??? I think: NO :roll:
:!: Bitte lass die .50bmg Projektile liegen und nimm sie nicht mitnachhause! Die sind noch gefüllt auch wenn es für dich nicht so aussieht! hast du beim Heer was über diese Muni Art erfahren? Nimm sie vorsichtig und entsorge sie wieder!
Re: Parts of USAF Bomber
Roy N - 16.09.2007, 00:56
Mig Man,
its ok i have translated the rest of your words. i now understand what a camlock is.
thanks
Roy
Re: Parts of USAF Bomber
WNF - 16.09.2007, 13:08
Here the picture from a complete Camlock ;)
Re: Parts of USAF Bomber
schiefer1000 - 16.09.2007, 16:15
Vielen Dank für die Super Hilfe die Bilder haben mir sehr weitergeholfen. Die Bmg Geschoße werde ich wenn mehrere vorhanden sind melden bis dahin werden sie im Wald verbleiben. Ich war heute nochmal bei der Absturzstelle und hab wieder 2 Kisten geborgen. Unter den vielen Teilen habe ich was sehr interessantes gefunden. Ein Art Uhrwerk welches auf einer Platte montiert ist. Leider sind keine ausführlichen Stempel vorhanden. Ich habe ein paar Fotos gemacht. Ich hoffe man kann das sicher nicht haüfig vorkommende Teil bestimmen.
Thank all for the help !! Today I visited the crash site and found I plate with a very complicated mechanism. There are no cleaer letters stamped on the plate. I made some fotos I hope somebody can identify the objekt.
Greetings Simon
Re: Parts of USAF Bomber
WNF - 16.09.2007, 17:19
The part looks like a Radiocompas !?
schiefer1000 told me some information about the Relicts, he found the parts near a village with the name "Sieding"
In Sieding there Crashed a B17.
Crahplace near the village "Sieding"
Date: 23.04.44
97. Bombergroup
414. Sqdr.
B17F - Ser.Nr. 42-5943
Missing Air Crew Report number: 4393
Pilot: 2Lt Robert Lewis
Aircraft hit by German Aircraft
KIA: 6
POW: 4
Re: Parts of USAF Bomber
schiefer1000 - 16.09.2007, 17:56
Der Bomber der in nähe Sieding abgestürzt ist leider nicht das Flugzeug was ich gefunden habe. Der Absturzort in Sieding ist bekannt. Meine Maschine bleibt noch unbekannt.
The Bomber that crashed near Sieding is not the Bomber that I found.The crashsite near sieding is known. My Aircraft stays unknown.
Greetings Simon
Re: Parts of USAF Bomber
schiefer1000 - 22.09.2007, 21:33
Keine Idee zum unbekannten Teil?
No idea what the unknown Part could be ?
Heute habe ich in eines der Kisten ein Teil mit einer Nummer gefunden. Vielleicht kann man etwas anhand der Nummer bestimmen ?
Today i found a part with a number on it. Maybe somebody can indentify the objekt ?
Die Nummer lautet SW 00792
Ich bin mir nicht sicher ob die Nummer komplett ist weil eine Bruchstelle hinter der Nummer ist.
The numberis SW 00792
Im not sure if the number is complett because behind the code the part is damaged.
Greetings Simon
Re: Parts of USAF Bomber
Pathfinder - 22.09.2007, 23:52
guys, I think it´s no part from compass, too much mechanic inside...
maybe a part from auto pilot assembly ?
nils
Re: Parts of USAF Bomber
Paul - 23.09.2007, 21:45
Maybe a part of these?.....
http://b17panels.com/id8.html
:n66:
Paul
Re: Parts of USAF Bomber
Pathfinder - 23.09.2007, 21:51
hmm... from Bomb sigth ?
Could be a little too large, or ?
Nils
Re: Parts of USAF Bomber
Pathfinder - 23.09.2007, 22:05
The other part of aluminium, with black colour, could be a part from engine mounting !
Nils
Re: Parts of USAF Bomber
schiefer1000 - 25.09.2007, 09:15
Danke für die Antworten.
Das unbekannte mechanische Teil ist tatsächlich ein Teil vom Bomb Sight.
Auf den letzten beiden Bildern der Anleitung sieht man mein Teil genauer.
Thanks for the help.
The unknwon mechanic mechanism is a part from the Bomb sight. On the last 2 photos of the manual from Pauls link you can see my part.
Vielen Dank
Simon
Re: Parts of USAF Bomber
schiefer1000 - 12.10.2007, 19:02
Hallo Leute
Nach kurzer Pause geht es weiter :D Ich war wieder ein paar mal bei der Absturzstelle. Neben Ausrüstungsteilen (Fallschirm Schnallen, Reißverschlüsse usw.) hab ich auch Motorteile Gefunden. Hier ein teil mit einer Kompletten Ersatzteil Nummer (?). Die Aufschrift lautet: DO D1 SG-1301-R kann man das Teil zuordnen ? Fotos von den anderen Sachen werde ich morgen einstellen sobald ich die Teile fertig gereinigt habe.
Hi
I visited the crash site again and found new parts. Along parachute parts and zips I found alot of Motor parts. Here a part with a complete number : DO D1 SG-1301-R can anybody indentify this part ?. Fotos of the other parts are coming tomorrow as soon everthing is cleaned.
Thanks alot Greetings Simon
Re: Parts of USAF Bomber
Pathfinder - 12.10.2007, 22:39
Hi Simon,
sadly your photo is very unsharp ;-)
This number is not known. Can you read the number clear ?
Nils
Re: Parts of USAF Bomber
schiefer1000 - 12.10.2007, 23:04
Hi
The number is clear DO D1 stands alone then SG-1301-R
The material is very heavy.
Better photos..
An other unindentified part with a number AN 6530 I already found two of of them Maybe from the flying googles ??
greetings Simon
Re: Parts of USAF Bomber
Pathfinder - 12.10.2007, 23:16
Thanks for the new photos !
the new number is also not known, sorry.
The letter "-R" means the right site. I think it is one site of a frame...
The last part could be a lashing strap or taut ribbon.
Regards
Nils
Re: Parts of USAF Bomber
Paul - 13.10.2007, 12:02
Simon,
Have a look here for the google ! :D
http://acmedepot.com/showcase/sc_images/an6530_fr_bk.jpg
Gr.
Paul
PS: this could indicate (some) crew was still onboard...be careful with possible human remains !!
Re: Parts of USAF Bomber
schiefer1000 - 13.10.2007, 20:01
Hallo vielen Dank für die hilfreichen Antworten !
Laut dem Zeitzeugen sind 8 Besatungsmitglieder abgesprungen einer verstarb beim Aufprall dieser wurde später von den Russen geborgen sowie die Triebwerke usw. Ich werde aber trotzdem nach Sterblichen Überresten ausschau halten und wenn gefunden selbstverständlich melden.
Hello
Thanks for the helpfull answers.
The Farmer told me that 8 of the crew members left the bomber. One died as the plane crashed. The russians recovered the body and other parts of the plane. I will look carefully for human remains.
Grüße Simon
Re: Parts of USAF Bomber
Paul - 13.10.2007, 21:30
Simon,
Do you already know the identity of this a/c?
Paul
Re: Parts of USAF Bomber
schiefer1000 - 13.10.2007, 21:42
No.. sadly not. But im trying to find it out
Greetings Simon
Re: Parts of USAF Bomber
schiefer1000 - 21.10.2007, 15:21
Hallo Leute
Ich habe gestern ein paar alte Leute aus der Gegend über den Bomber befragt und neue Informationen erhalten. Das Flugzeug soll im Mai 1944 abgestürzt sein. Beide Piloten konnten den Flieger nicht verlassen und wurden beim aufprall getötet. 2 Andere wurden 250 Meter vor der Absturzstelle tot aufegefunden. Wahrscheinlich ist der Fallschirm nicht aufgegangen. Die Bergung der Motoren und anderen Rumpfteilen wurde nicht wie vermutet von den Russen, sonderen von der SS beauftragt. Die waren zufällig in der nähe der Stelle stationiert und konnten gleich nach dem Absturz mehrere Leute gefangen nehmen. Vielleicht hilft der Zeitraum für die Bestimmung is bisschen weiter.
Hello
Yesterday I asked some old people about the crash of the Bomber and got some new information. The plain crashed in 1944 probably in mai. Both pilots died as the plain crashed two others where found 250 meters from the crashsite away. The parachute didn`t open. The plain parts weren`t revovered by the russians. The SS forced the farmers to get all big parts like the engines. The other crew members that jumped of the plain got captured by the SS. Maybe the time period of the crash helps to indentify the bomber.
Thanks alot
Simon
Re: Parts of USAF Bomber
schiefer1000 - 21.10.2007, 18:00
Ein paar neue Sachen:
Ein Ovales Schild mit Aufschrift TANK ENG 4 OFF
Ein Bakelit stück mit Gewinde und eine Art schraube mit einer Kugel drin.
1 Bakelit Bruchstücke mit Aufschrift:
GLIDE ANGEL CLIMB ANGLE
7 1 1/2
16 1/2 6 1/2
4 1/2
Pic1 oval plate TANK ENG 4 OFF
Pic2 Bakelt piece with a Bakeltit Screw ?
and a Bakelt Piece with wrtitings:
GLIDE ANGEL CLIMB ANGLE
7 1 1/2
16 1/2 6 1/2
4 1/2
Re: Parts of USAF Bomber
WNF - 21.10.2007, 18:09
"TANK ENG 4 OFF" ... i think it´s the plate from the Panelswith to close the Fuelpipes for the Engine Nr. 4
Re: Parts of USAF Bomber
schiefer1000 - 26.10.2007, 16:34
Some new things
1-2 Bakelit and Glass
3 A Alu Frame with Plexi Glass pieces maybe from a window ?
4 camlocks
5-6 Material is Alu on the inside is written: clean ??? lubri ?? Plane ??
7-8-9 Kurbel (I dont now the english word) stamped with the number 5355 and a triangle
( Kurbel =crank handle)
10-11-12 A heavy Ring found with other engine parts
13-14 engine part ?
15-20 A Part of a Generator ?
21 A Alu piece from a DEMAND OXYGEN device ?
22 A type Plate
US ARMY AIR FORCE
DC: AMPLYDYNE CT GENERATOR
BY THE EMERSON ELECTRIC ?? CO
MODEL 5AM??NKA SERIAL NO. 143685
INPUT V27 A44 OUTPUT V60 A 86 ?
RPM 130 WATT 130 TIME RATE ??
TWG No ????? CONT NO: ????
23 A better photo of the TANK control plate
24-25 unknown part with a Stamp: little A in a B58
Im pretty sure the Plane was a B17 are some of the shown parts typical B17 parts ?
Greetings Simon
Re: Parts of USAF Bomber
Roy N - 26.10.2007, 17:00
Simon,
picture 21 cannot be a part of a demand oxygen system.
these AC had a constant feed oxygen system.
maybe the word is command oxygen.... not demand?
some nice finds here
Roy
Re: Parts of USAF Bomber
schiefer1000 - 26.10.2007, 17:32
Hello
Im not sure could be "command" to. A month ago I saw a picture of a "demand oxygen regulator" somewhere in the internet that looked simular to my piece. But I cant find the picture.
Simon
Re: Parts of USAF Bomber
Roy N - 26.10.2007, 17:41
Simon,
ive just rechecked and yes you could be right. it seems the oxgen was selected by the crewman as demand or constant. ...... you win :n57:
the Kurbel ( ;) ) looks like either the one used to lower the wheels manually or maybe the one for the ball turret?
Roy
Re: Parts of USAF Bomber
schiefer1000 - 26.10.2007, 17:55
Roy
Thanks for the information !
I´ll see if I can find some pictures of those cranks.
simon
Re: Parts of USAF Bomber
Roy N - 26.10.2007, 18:05
if its for the landing gear. it would fit in a hole in the forward section of the bomb bay when being used.
Re: Parts of USAF Bomber
Paul - 26.10.2007, 23:06
'Cranks for manual operation of landing gear, wing flaps, and bomb bay doors, and for hand starting of engines, are stowed on the aft bulkhead of the radio compartment. Crank extensions for use when operating engine starters, bomb doors, and wing flaps are stowed adjacent to the cranks'.
(Restricted AN 01-230EF-1) (B-17F)
Re: Parts of USAF Bomber
Paul - 27.10.2007, 12:12
The stowed hand cranks !
Re: Parts of USAF Bomber
Paul - 27.10.2007, 15:13
Picture #18 shows the name Cornell-Dubilier, which made capacitors in their New Bedford MA and S. Plainfield NJ factories...
Re: Parts of USAF Bomber
schiefer1000 - 27.10.2007, 16:18
Hello
Today I found a very interesting Type Plate
GAGE PRESSURE OXYGEN
AIRCRAFT LOW PRESSURE SYSTEM
TYPE K-1 SPECIFICATION No. 1906467
ORD NO AC 25807 SER NO AC 41-19099
AC SPARK PLUG DIV G.M CORP
Could the SER NO 41-19099 be the Serial number of the Plane ??
Ill make a foto later.
Thanks
Simon
Re: Parts of USAF Bomber
Pathfinder - 27.10.2007, 16:40
schiefer1000 wrote:
GAGE PRESSURE OXYGEN
AIRCRAFT LOW PRESSURE SYSTEM
TYPE K-1 SPECIFICATION No. 1906467
ORD NO AC 25807 SER NO AC 41-19099
AC SPARK PLUG DIV G.M CORP
Could the SER NO 41-19099 be the Serial number of the Plane ??
Simon,
it could be from "Oxygen Control System". A photo could be helpful !
The serial number indicated only the serial number of this item !
Nils
Re: Parts of USAF Bomber
schiefer1000 - 28.10.2007, 02:06
Hello
Here a photo
If the serial number (41-19099.) is only for this item why stands AC (aircraft) serial no. and not item serial no. ????
Greetings simon
Re: Parts of USAF Bomber
Pathfinder - 28.10.2007, 12:00
Hi Simon,
this must be a rating plate from oxygen control gauge.
Here a diagram of the installed control gauges (AN6021-1A):
Regards
Nils
By apiboard
Re: Parts of USAF Bomber
schiefer1000 - 28.10.2007, 12:37
Hello Nils
Thanks for the answer
I found the rating plate under alot of plexiglas wher the nose of the plane crashed. I was alreading hoping that the Ac Ser No is the Serial number of the plane because they look so simular.
simon
Re: Parts of USAF Bomber
Pathfinder - 28.10.2007, 12:41
Simon,
the serial number 41-19099 was not used for a US aircraft ;)
Nils
Re: Parts of USAF Bomber
Anonymous - 28.10.2007, 15:40
Hi
Here some other finds from yesterday. We searched in the area where the glass nose hit the ground.In the near I found the computer part of the norden bomb sight. We found very much plexi glass in all shapes and parts of the instrument panel from the cokpit. Does somebody know where the green bakelit was used ?
The big bakelit part is stamped with 2089*7
The aluminium hook has no stamps.
simon
Re: Parts of USAF Bomber
Pathfinder - 28.10.2007, 17:12
On the first view, I would say the hook comes from the bomb rack, but this hooks of B-17G and B-24G looks similar :-k
By apiboard
Re: Parts of USAF Bomber
schiefer1000 - 28.10.2007, 17:18
Hi
I allready found bomb hooks at the crashplace. My hook is a bit smaller then a bomb hook. I think the hook was attached somewhere on the outside of the plane. Probably at the nose. Is the number on the bakelit part a spare parts number or a manufacturer number ?
simon
Re: Parts of USAF Bomber
Pathfinder - 28.10.2007, 17:46
The number of the bakelit part should be the number from manufacturer.
Nils
Re: Parts of USAF Bomber
Roy N - 28.10.2007, 18:00
Nils,
Simon is correct. the hook looks too small to be from the bombay.
on aircraft with cheek guns there was a cable that fitted to the gun and was attached to the top of the roof. i think it was used as a counter balance.
its possible it could be what the hook was used for?. i cannot find a photo that shows it.
do you have a diagram that shows how the cable was attached to the top of the nose compartment?.
Roy
Re: Parts of USAF Bomber
Roy N - 28.10.2007, 19:33
Having checked, i can now say the hook is nothing to do with the cheek guns :???:
its nothing ;like the cable mountings used there.
Roy
Re: Parts of USAF Bomber
schiefer1000 - 31.10.2007, 17:51
Hello
Thank you for the information.
I found out some new things about my crashplace. The B17 is probably indentified. As I was looking in google I found a Post in a other forum. There somebody wrote that in Puchberg am Schneeberg the B17 42-31818 crashed. The year and the month of the crash is identic to the information that an old man told me. I think it is the same Aircraft.
Does somebody have more information about the B17 42-31818 ?
Thanks Simon
Re: Parts of USAF Bomber
Pathfinder - 31.10.2007, 18:06
Simon,
B-17 42-31818 (463BG 774BS was shot down by fighters over Austria on mission to Wiener Neustadt on 10.05.1944 (May, 10th 1944)
MACR 5069
Regards
Nils
Re: Parts of USAF Bomber
schiefer1000 - 31.10.2007, 18:16
Thak you
Im very sure that thats the B17 im looking for !
Is it posssible to get a crew list or the Macr ?
Simon
Re: Parts of USAF Bomber
WNF - 31.10.2007, 18:47
Pathfinder wrote: Simon,
B-17 42-31818 (463BG 774BS was shot down by fighters over Austria on mission to Wiener Neustadt on 10.05.1944 (May, 10th 1944)
MACR 5069
Regards
Nils
so much aircraft was attacking my city and bombed the "WNF" Factory, and so much crashed near the city :( but i know just 1 crashplace .... :n66:
Re: Parts of USAF Bomber
schiefer1000 - 31.10.2007, 19:24
Ja du hast recht !
Gehe aber stark davon aus das "meine" B17 auch aus Wr Neustadt kam. Wahrscheinlich sehr stark durch Jäger und Flak getroffen. Laute Zeitzeugen brannte die B17 schon in der Luft.
Yes
Probably came my B17 from Wr Neustadt and crashed in cause of heavy damages. An eye whitness told me that my B17 already burned as it was flying.
Simon
Re: Parts of USAF Bomber
WNF - 31.10.2007, 19:37
Pathfinder wrote:
B-17 42-31818 (463BG 774BS was shot down by fighters over Austria on mission to Wiener Neustadt on 10.05.1944 (May, 10th 1944)
MACR 5069
B17G - Pilot: 2Lt. Gerald Nagel - Shoot down by Enemyfighters - Crashplace: Siernthaler Hütte bei Puchberg
Killed: 4
POW: 6
Re: Parts of USAF Bomber
schiefer1000 - 31.10.2007, 19:48
Absolut Genial !!!!!! Das Passt ! Genau hinter der Sierningthaler Hütte befindet sich die Absturzstelle. Also wäre die Maschine endlich eindeutig indentifiziert.
Vielen Dank an alle !
Super !! Thats it. Behind the Sierningthaler Hütte is the crashplace. The B17 is identified.
Thanks all.
Simon
Re: Parts of USAF Bomber
Paul - 31.10.2007, 19:51
A link for the 463rd Bomb Group !
http://www.463rd.com/
Gr.
Paul
Re: Parts of USAF Bomber
Denis - 01.11.2007, 13:19
edited out, question already answered!
Re: Parts of USAF Bomber
schiefer1000 - 01.03.2008, 16:25
Hello
After a winter break I visited the crashsite of the B17 G again. I found this part. It is marked with 258-7021. Maybe a motor part ?
Greetings Simon
Re: Parts of USAF Bomber
schiefer1000 - 05.03.2008, 23:06
No ideas ?
Could the number be a part number from a B17 ?
Simon
Re: Parts of USAF Bomber
schiefer1000 - 28.03.2008, 20:15
Hello
I received the MACR of the Bomber. After one of the crew members stands DED. What does DED mean ? 2 crew members are marked with KIA and the rest with POW but I never heared DED !?
Thanks Simon
Re: Parts of USAF Bomber
Pathfinder - 26.02.2009, 22:13
Simon,
DED = Determined Dead (Tod festgestellt)
Do you have now more details from the crash site ?
Do you have contact to a relative of the crew ?
Regards
Nils
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