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Re: Hero Mikoto ( Wise Man )
PhiniX - 30.11.2006, 19:58Hero Mikoto ( Wise Man )
Name : Mikoto (Wise Man)
Theme : Wind
Background Story: An Wise man who was touched by the 'kami' of the wind.
Start HP: 320 ( 1600 HP on lvl 20 )
Start Mana: 430 ( 990 Mana on lvl 20 )
Strength: 12 ( + 2.0 Strenght per lvl - 60 Max on lvl 20
Agility: 16 ( + 2.2 Agility per lvl - 51 Agility Max on lvl 20 )
Inteligence : 24 ( +2.8 Inteligence per lvl - 66 Inteligence Max on lvl 20 )
Attack Speed: Fast ( * will be added soon im not sure on that one yet )
Movementspeed: Avarage ( * will be added soon im not sure on that one yet)
[1] Abilitie : Wind Cleaving ( Active )
Running through the sky and hit with his kami of the air
Cooldown : 25 seconds
Mana : 135
Target Typ : Single Target Typ
Description : Mikoto runs with maximum speed from a range of ( nook will shall choose this range well i think :P ) through his targeted enemy , splitts into two , and hit his enemy with 2 times ( + 0.5 each lvl ) of his maximum int stats.
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Spell for this abilitie : http://www.wc3sear.ch/index.php?p=Spells&ID=1349&sid=
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[2] Abilitie : Whispering Wind ( Active )
The Wind whispers ... , silence devours ur voice ,
You try to speak , but the words you're gonna say are falling down from your mouth like leaves from a tree , which is blown up into the air , ... from a whispering wind ...
Cooldown : 18 secs
Mana : 60 Mana
Target Typ : Single Target Typ
Descritpion : With his wise senses and his blessed soul of the 'kami' of the wind he can devour the voice of his openents and make them dumb for an amount of 4 seconds ( + 0.5 seconds each lvl ).
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There are already no "hero-silence" spells in the game , just the one which is givin by an sword , .. so think of this abilitie also i dunno if i made it way to imba .. but i dont think so, i think 18 seconds cd and 6.5 duration on a single target are okay , .. but if you don't like it just commend pls :D , .. i rly enjoy any suggestions about my hero 8)
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[3] Abilitie : 'kami' of Wind ( Passive Aura )
Blessed by the 'kami' of Wind , blessed by the knowledge, blessed by expirience, ... and blessed by the honor of being Samurai !
AoE of Effect: 550
Target : Enemy
Description: Sorrounded by the power of the 4th elemantel wind , Mikoto blows with his aura the armor of the enemys away and make them so more weaker to combat attacks. The Armor is reduced by an amount of -1.5 ( + (-0.5) each lvl ).
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Aura Model : http://www.wc3sear.ch/index.php?p=Models&ID=4254&sid=
If you find a better one , or just don't like these post it , im often for every suggestions :wink:
Btw make the Icon passive :lol:
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[4] Abilitie / Ultimate : Cyclone ( Active )
Calling the Wind , calling the sky , calling the storms and all of their might, hitting with power , destroying with force and killing with supreme destruction ...
AoE of Effect: 600
Duration : 10 secs
Target Type : Active Spell with AoE around the Hero
Mana : 220 Mana
Cooldown : 165 secs
Descrition: Mikoto begins th cast an Whirlwind , and every 4 units which are nearest to him in an area of 600 will begin to fly up into the air , imprisoned in 4 huge tornados which deal 40 Dmg every 2 seconds ( + 10 Dmg every 2 seconds per lvl ). Mikoto can move if he use this spell but his movement speed is reduced by -120 movementspeed. Also this spell can just be interrupted by stun Mikoto.The tornados will moving around Mikto with an movement speed of 300.
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Rly hard to explane this spell idea .. but i hope u got it .. if not i ll post some stuff soon. See your comments later :) , but at all i must say ty nook for making a map which inspires me alot :wink:
P.S : I'm often for every comments if they are negative or positive ,ty :o
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Phinix
Re: Hero Mikoto ( Wise Man )
Viziroth - 08.12.2006, 02:30
I like it, but I unno about the silence spell... It's not that it isn't useful, it's a great spell if you need to escape a rounin or no-dachi(FD and raising dragon?) But I'm just not a fan of silence.
Also, the armor debuff aura...while useful I could think of some better things in it's place, like maybe a small AoE spell A gust of wind or something or a knock back spell(I know probably be over kill if your running away...or if you were to get behind your enemy and knock em into some towers)
I like the ulti, but it targets the nearest 4? or a random 4 in the area of 600? either way it'll be a lil hard to land on what you want it to hit depending on the situation...
Re: Hero Mikoto ( Wise Man )
Lyncor - 08.12.2006, 03:34
Guys, a hard-to-use ability is a very good thing :P
Adjust your thinking.
Re: Hero Mikoto ( Wise Man )
Skirn - 08.12.2006, 04:16
Overall, I like what I see, but let me get into a bit of detail... (Skill by skill.)
Wind Cleaving: The idea itself I like, the thing I don't like is basing it on his Int stat. This will basically say 'This can either be really good, or really bad! Buy lots, and lots of intelligence items (Only swords really.) to make it really, really good!'
I'd say it should instead have a set amount of damage per level.
Whispering Wind: Well, I'd like the words to be complete instead of 'ur' and such, but-- I love the idea. Silence is highly underestimated, and with so little time tacked onto it, it is 'made' to be used with skill.
I know from .7 that Silence can not only work well in SL, but create some pretty fun counters to combo moves. For instance, saving an ally from Kaze-- Second he ends his FD, you throw the silence on him. Stopping a warlord from healing, preventing a No-Dachi from getting the final blow with Rising Dragon, stopping a Ninja from shadowing away... The list goes on and on. I have to say I really hope I see a hero that comes with a form of silence in a later version.
Kami of Wind: I'm actually neutral towards this one. Can't go for or against it-- I see it's uses, but it hasn't been tested to know if it'll really be a useful skill or not.
Cyclone: Actually, I really like this idea. It has a wide variety of combo attacks I could see it being used for. Also makes him able to be a nice shield for a running ally and does it all -- WITHOUT making him being unstoppable (Like Order of the Dragon) It'd also take some practice to really figure out how to use well -- but that's not a bad thing.
My only real objection is his starting HP might be a bit to low for the beginning. After all, in .85 a Ronin or No-Dachi could do that much in a single FD/Rising Dragon + a few swings.
Re: Hero Mikoto ( Wise Man )
Forbidden - 08.12.2006, 16:03
Silence is not only highly underestimated, its extremely underestimated. But anyone who has played a ToB game with skilled players, values silence very high. It depends on what kind of silence it is though.
Tides of Blood's dark ranger's silence and normal silence are different. More than just the targeting type difference.
In ToB the silence is a single target spell, that silences the target, but on top of that makes him unable to take any other action than move around and attack normally. It prevents the usage of items AND even makes it impossible to enter safe places, such as a Zeppelin. To top it off, the bastard is undispellable. The support value that this skill has is very high.
A normal aoe silence is useful or extremely overpowered against heroes, though it has reduced duration on heroes. Against a single target it's barely useful. But if it's cast on a group of enemy heroes in the heat of a large battle, it can be very powerful. However a normal silence can be easily dispelled. If items can be used, even a scroll of negation will get then job done.
Depends on what Phinix had in mind for this silence on whether it's useful or useless.
Anyway I won't praise the hero to the heavens, but I will say: nicely done in general. The starting hp may truly be a bit low.
Re: Hero Mikoto ( Wise Man )
tegeus-Cromis - 08.12.2006, 23:17
It isn't the case that normal AOE silence isn't useful if you can only get one target. Usually there will be one hero whose spells break the battle; if you can get that guy, you've got your money's worth. In SL terms, who cares if you didn't get the Yumi and the No Dachi if you got the Ronin or Ninja?
(Of course, given the way the Ronin and Ninja play, you probably won't get them, but oh well. :P)
Re: Hero Mikoto ( Wise Man )
PhiniX - 20.12.2006, 14:44
Thx guys for commenting on him :)
I' ll add fixes in start hp / mana ( basic stats ) later ,
also I' ll add the attack and movementspeed if i've enough time for it .
@ forb , i thought of a silence like in tob , single target , but i think the abilitie that it makes any item in the inventar of the hero useless for a amount of time will be to imba in SL. But well , whatever , nook will choose the right way.
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