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Qualität des Beitrags: Beteiligte Poster: IMassAcolyte - nooK - Anonymous - tegeus-Cromis - Aray - Metal Sonic Forum: Samurai Legends Forenbeschreibung: Official forums aus dem Unterforum: Balance Issues Antworten: 10 Forum gestartet am: Mittwoch 06.10.2004 Sprache: englisch Link zum Originaltopic: Just throwing it out there Letzte Antwort: vor 17 Jahren, 10 Monaten, 27 Tagen, 20 Stunden, 43 Minuten
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Re: Just throwing it out there
IMassAcolyte - 31.05.2006, 23:30Just throwing it out there
Hey nook, big fan of your game but i found a few things that might want to change.
Ronin: He is a GREAT hero, well balanced, cool abilities. I like his ult as well, BUT its considerably weak compared to everyone elses (Especially the Warlords).
If you think about it, AoE abilities are normally weaker than single target abilities. In this case: The Ronin's ult at max level is as strong as the Warlords ult at level 2 which is EXTREMELY unbalanced.
Suggestions: I have 2 suggestions: 1) Increase the Ronins ult damage significantly. Here was my idea:
Level 1: 250
Level 2: 300
Level 3: 350
Level 4: 400
Level 5: 450
My other suggestion is: Decrease Warlords ult damage while increasing Ronins. My idea:
Warlord:
Level 1: 200
Level 2: 250
Level 3: 300
Level 4: 350
Level 5: 400
Ronin:
Level 1: 200
Level 2: 250
Level 3: 300
Level 4: 350
Level 5: 400
These are only suggestions, you dont have to do it this way. But just a Key thing to remember is that Ronin is really underpowered.
Shinobi: Not much wrong with this hero, in fact hes an awesome hero. But i find some EXTREME lag with his ult. In a normal lane he is fine, but if your team is losing and you are at the point where you have a huge army of troops surrounding your spawn area and you use your ult, he constantly slashes. This cause me some great lag and ive concluded that its him because after he dies his shadow disappears and the lag stop. I dont know what you can do about it but im just throwing it out there.
Abil Kills: Im sure you planned this but i think its a bit low. When you kill a hero with an ability (Such as Shuriken or Flying Death) you only gain 1 honor. Im sure you planned that, (or maybe you didnt) but it would be a good idea if you raised the abil kill honor award to 3 maybe?
Well those are my ideas, take them or leave them. Either way ill still play your game :lol:
Re: Just throwing it out there
nooK - 31.05.2006, 23:47
Hey, glad you like it :)
Thanks for your suggestions:
About Kaze (Ronin`s ultimate):
Just changed it about 5 mins ago that it deals 50 more damage on every level -> 200/250/300/350/400.
This will be in the next version.
Please also notice that Kaze is undodgeable, unstoppable and gives a 2 second stun.
Dragon Souls in contrary can be dodged and stopped by good players.
Quote: Shinobi: Not much wrong with this hero, in fact hes an awesome hero. But i find some EXTREME lag with his ult. In a normal lane he is fine, but if your team is losing and you are at the point where you have a huge army of troops surrounding your spawn area and you use your ult, he constantly slashes. This cause me some great lag and ive concluded that its him because after he dies his shadow disappears and the lag stop. I dont know what you can do about it but im just throwing it out there.
Strange never heard complaints about the ult, also the coding should be fine. But thanks for reporting.
Quote: Abil Kills: Im sure you planned this but i think its a bit low. When you kill a hero with an ability (Such as Shuriken or Flying Death) you only gain 1 honor. Im sure you planned that, (or maybe you didnt) but it would be a good idea if you raised the abil kill honor award to 3 maybe?
No this wasn`t planned like this, it`s a bug. I only checked if the hero is killed by a non-hero unit or nor, instead of checking the killing player.
Will be fixed in the next version, which also will include an assistance system and honor for killing towers.
Quote: Well those are my ideas, take them or leave them. Either way ill still play your game
Thanks for your suggestins and keep on playing :)
Re: Just throwing it out there
Anonymous - 01.06.2006, 07:12
Quote: Strange never heard complaints about the ult, also the coding should be fine. But thanks for reporting.
Let me clarify, When there isnt alot of units he has not alot of lag. but being mauled such as toward the end of the game he is VERY laggy due to constant slashes, hard to control or move much at all.
Quote: No this wasn`t planned like this, it`s a bug. I only checked if the hero is killed by a non-hero unit or nor, instead of checking the killing player. Will be fixed in the next version, which also will include an assistance system and honor for killing towers.
Sounds good to me.
Quote: Please also notice that Kaze is undodgeable, unstoppable and gives a 2 second stun. Dragon Souls in contrary can be dodged and stopped by good players.
Ya thats true but its still pretty strong.
Cant wait for the next version. I want to try the No-Diachi Samurai and the other hero that Cromis suggested to you. She sounds very interesting but the part where he said cover the skin, i dont think you should. She looks fine as she is. Well anyway, can't wait :D
Re: Just throwing it out there
tegeus-Cromis - 01.06.2006, 08:35
nooK: Quote: Please also notice that Kaze is undodgeable, unstoppable and gives a 2 second stun.
And chains into Flying Death! (Which is great, because the 2 second stun on its own is not much use, as it will take you a moment to run to where the enemy's fallen.) Still, the 50 damage is very welcome.
Quote: No this wasn`t planned like this, it`s a bug. I only checked if the hero is killed by a non-hero unit or nor, instead of checking the killing player.
I suspected this was the case. ;)
IMassAcolyte: Hey, nice to see you here. I told you the honour thing was a bug. :P
Quote: Ya thats true but its still pretty strong.
I think it's as strong as it should be. It isn't imba or anything.
Quote: She sounds very interesting but the part where he said cover the skin, i dont think you should. She looks fine as she is.
I just think that in what is so far a fairly 'realistic' map, it would be weird having this ninja chick running around the battlefield half-naked. It isn't very stealthy, is it?
Re: Just throwing it out there
Aray - 01.06.2006, 16:18
Half-naked girls are nothing but positive, end of discussion.
Re: Just throwing it out there
IMassAcolyte - 01.06.2006, 23:25
In order for ninjas to be stealthy they have to wear light weight clothes, am i right? Plus she has that fade ability where she becomes harder to see, so it really doesnt matter how much skin she shows as long as she can move fast and is hard to detect. And while trying to edit a skin, what if you mess up? You could damage the model. Im just saying its a good model, use it how it is.
P.S. The guest that posted earlier was me. I forgot to log in :D
Re: Just throwing it out there
tegeus-Cromis - 02.06.2006, 00:12
Quote: In order for ninjas to be stealthy they have to wear light weight clothes, am i right? Plus she has that fade ability where she becomes harder to see, so it really doesnt matter how much skin she shows as long as she can move fast and is hard to detect.
I guess she should run around naked, then.
Which would have its own appeal of course, but would not make for a very believable ninja character.
Quote: And while trying to edit a skin, what if you mess up? You could damage the model.
LOL, what?
Re: Just throwing it out there
Metal Sonic - 02.06.2006, 00:16
Quote: And while trying to edit a skin, what if you mess up? You could damage the model.
Impossible, they're 2 seperate things. :) Personally, though, I don't care for that modle that much, I like the Kunoichi hero model better.
Re: Just throwing it out there
IMassAcolyte - 02.06.2006, 00:56
Dont take it seriously, im saying ninjas should dress LIGHT WEIGHTED not naked. lol she isnt naked to begin with anyway. btw disregard the other thing about damaging the model.
Re: Just throwing it out there
nooK - 02.06.2006, 13:28
I like the Ayame model definately much more than the Kunoichi. Also it better fits the hero cromis did.
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