Hero: Imin Taigai

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  • Beteiligte Poster: Viziroth - tegeus-Cromis - Forbidden - Lyncor - Anton - wizard.dark - Lord.DarthVader - Shadow Phoenix
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  • Forum gestartet am: Mittwoch 06.10.2004
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    Re: Hero: Imin Taigai

    Viziroth - 06.03.2007, 06:40

    Hero: Imin Taigai
    Name:Imin Taigai(literally imigrant foreign)
    Class: Shaoilin monk (I know it's chinese, look at the name)

    Base HP: 400
    Base MP: 300
    Base armor:2
    Base damage: 30-38(melee)
    Base str: 15 (1.3 growth 39.7 max)
    Base agi: 15 (1.1 growth 35.9 max)
    Base int(prim): 20 (2.5 growth 67 max)
    (may need adjustment)

    Skill 1: Mind over matter
    Through intence focus and mental determination the monk can endure intence pain. Gives strength based on inteligence.
    Level1: 5health per int
    2: 6health per int
    3: 7
    4: 8
    5: 9

    Skill 2: way of the open palm
    Through years of intence meditation and training the monk has gained control over his chi energy and can control it's flow. Focusing chi in his palm, the monk blasts out a spiritual force straight to his foe. Sends a blast of chi in a straight line 150units away directly hitting the spirit of the first target it comes in contact with, burning energy and stunning for a short period.
    Level 1: 95 mana burn, .2sec stun
    2: 105 mana burn, .4sec stun
    3: 115, .6
    4: 125, .8
    5: 135, 1.0

    Skill 3: Focused stomp
    Having trained for years, the monks muscles and chi flow have great strength in them. He is capable of delivering a stomp so powerful the earth it self strains under it's might. Stomps, creating a small earthquake, dealing damge and slow over time.
    Level 1: 100dps, 1second 10% slow 75 radius
    level2: 105dps, 1.3 seconds 10% slow 100raidius
    3: 110dps, 1.6 15% slow 125
    4: 115 dps, 1.9 15% slow 150
    5: 120 dps, 2.2 20% slow 175

    Ult Idea 1: Chi Blast
    Through intence training and meditation and years of study the monk has gainded full control over his chi. Though intence focus, the monk is able to unleash vast amounts of his chi energy in a fatal blast in front of him damageing everything in it's path.(shockwave type attack, consumes mana over time while channeling, can change direction of blast while channeling)
    Level1: .2 damage per point of mana
    level2: .4 damage per point of mana
    3: .6
    4: .8
    5: 1

    Ult idea 2: Elemental Chi
    Through intence training and meditation and years of study the monk has gainded full control over his chi. Though intence focus, the monk is able to command the power of the four elements with in his chi to pull off an awesome series of attacks. Causes the elements to attack opponents in an AOE, water knocking them back, wind slowing them down, earth crushing them, and fire burning them. Lasts 5 seconds channles for 5 seconds 150 aoe
    Level 1: 100 knock back, 10% slow, 200dmg, 10dps
    Level 2: 125 knock back, 15% slow, 225dmg, 15dps
    3: 150, 20%, 250, 20
    4: 175, 25%, 275, 25
    5: 200, 30%, 300, 30

    Feedback appreciated ^.^



    Re: Hero: Imin Taigai

    tegeus-Cromis - 06.03.2007, 11:45


    Quote: Having trained for years, the monks mussels and chi flow have great strength in them.



    Re: Hero: Imin Taigai

    Forbidden - 06.03.2007, 11:57


    I just read it once through quickly so can't say much yet, sorry.

    Just 1 question: Any model ideas?



    Re: Hero: Imin Taigai

    Lyncor - 06.03.2007, 13:27


    Oh my gosh, tegeus... I laughed so hard...



    Re: Hero: Imin Taigai

    Viziroth - 06.03.2007, 20:41


    i don`t have a model idea yet.us i`m hoping for a martial artist with orange robes. have attacks like the naruto models.
    i was also hoping for feedback before wating effort looking for a good model



    Re: Hero: Imin Taigai

    Forbidden - 06.03.2007, 22:39


    Just 1 thing I realized now after I read some stuff again: Ulti nro. 1, Chi Blast is greatly abusable.

    All you need to do is buy alot of Kanji Stones and voila. Damage enough to kill Ronin, Ninja, Walord, Yumi, Onmyoji; all of the low hp heroes with a single attack. And what's worse, it can hit them all at once if they're all packed up. A single Kanji Stone gives +250 mana. So 5 stones would give 1250 mana and his original mana is at lvl 20 already somewhere around 1000 if I calculated it right. So that would equal:
    2250 x 0.75 (hero armor reduction) = somewhere around 1700 damage to ALL heroes in that line and more to regular units.

    Needles to say anything further. Maybe stick with ulti nro. 2 :D



    Re: Hero: Imin Taigai

    Anton - 07.03.2007, 03:00


    :( intel nuker :(

    i like monks in games but this makes me sad....

    this needs alot of work!! (more of a mage than a monk). i do not see much skill at all needed to use this hero, and thats not how SL works(im sure we do not want to re-live the early no-dachi era).



    Re: Hero: Imin Taigai

    Viziroth - 07.03.2007, 06:55


    Maybe adding a casting time to ult 1, or have the dmg decrease over the distance, or giving it a cap, or something else of the sort.



    Re: Hero: Imin Taigai

    Anton - 08.03.2007, 00:51


    it still would not require much skill to use :( well thats what i think.



    Re: Hero: Imin Taigai

    wizard.dark - 08.03.2007, 14:48


    I think what we need is more variety to skills...straight forward skills are to boring to use and not very original the way they are ;/.Some of the skills im talking bout are like dragon soul,flying death,airy charge,flying daggers,shurikens.This skill sounds to familiar to way of death :/



    Re: Hero: Imin Taigai

    Lord.DarthVader - 08.03.2007, 16:01


    Name Suggestion: San Te

    The main character San Te is an historical figure from the Manchu Dynasty, presented in a highly fictionalized account of his life. The character is played by the director's adopted brother Gordon Liu in his breakthrough role. The film spawned two "sequels": Return to the 36th Chamber (Return of the Master Killer)

    More...
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_36th_Chamber_of_Shaolin



    Re: Hero: Imin Taigai

    Viziroth - 09.03.2007, 04:29


    to wizard, which skill?

    Also nother idea to balence 1st ult(likes this ult so much because he thought about it and that tought made him make the hero xD) it can be channeling, and asumes say 100mana per second, and then fired at any point, this way at max level it'll be 100dmg per second channeled and consume that mana. (figures only exampled) Also instead of targeting it can be so that it just works the way the ccaster is facing(basically just to make it harder on noobs.)



    Re: Hero: Imin Taigai

    Lord.DarthVader - 09.03.2007, 17:38


    Im find cool spells nice for Monk in another map AotZ for download here: http://www.wc3campaigns.net/attachment.php?s=615e5f4c94cd77482d702b15ce863816&attachmentid=20789&d=1171223472

    Remeber! Save as name: Maps\Download\AotZ_2.00s(p).w3x

    Play in Team One and buy this Hero Arró Kree like here:



    Check this spell Corrpus Opressum is here:



    Skill 1: Power of Mind CREAT THIS SPELL LIKE THIS UP!

    Through years of intence meditation and training the monk has gained control over his chi energy and can control it's flow. Focusing chi in his palm, the monk can use power of mind for pickup unit to levitating of off the grund ad move him down at the target location.

    Level damage for Discussion.



    Re: Hero: Imin Taigai

    wizard.dark - 10.03.2007, 01:24


    I was actualy talking bout his ulti and another one of his skills but the way u sugested to be casted the way the monk is facing actualy sounded awseme for a second but then i thought bout it and it was underpowered lol.Unless you can actualy twist the hero round while doing it,itl be a bit underpowered because people can generaly see the direction hes facing and simply moving out of the way due to cast time will be to easy.Once agian ....if the caster can twist the hero back and forth while doing it...not only is it going to be cool but its going to take skill to aim.But itl only take skill in my oppinion if the mouse is disabled during this time so when u twist him around while whirling ur mouse around u only see which way hes facing u cant just go over the char ur bout to shoot and have him shoot out that way.



    Re: Hero: Imin Taigai

    Viziroth - 10.03.2007, 06:08


    Well we can have it twist with the arrow keys, the the innate abillity of the hero firecaller on the map AoM. His innate ability shoots a stream of fire in the direction he's facing and u can turn him by pressing the direction keys



    Re: Hero: Imin Taigai

    wizard.dark - 10.03.2007, 15:05


    Oooo you mean like he can turn WHILE casting it?thatd be kinda fun and also make it aoe yeah i like it :P



    Re: Hero: Imin Taigai

    Viziroth - 11.03.2007, 08:18


    The reason I'm pushing the 1st ult, is cuz the 2nd was only a back up because it would be really flashy and kindda a swiss army knife....

    Changed text of first ult to say it cosumes mana over tiem while channeling, and it fires the way he's facing, and can turn wile channeling.



    Re: Hero: Imin Taigai

    Forbidden - 11.03.2007, 10:53


    Like you suggested yourself, cap the damage or it's abusable by massing kanji stones.



    Re: Hero: Imin Taigai

    Viziroth - 11.03.2007, 12:42


    I was thinking that with damge being based on how long you charge it, that may not be nesasary...but what's a cap you suggest?



    Re: Hero: Imin Taigai

    Forbidden - 11.03.2007, 16:13


    Being that it's an AoE skill, something reasonable. I would suggest around the lines of max damage of Dragon Souls. You need many more opinions though.

    If it's not capped, it will not make newcomers happy, not one bit. They will just rush straight forward to a guy who has channeled over 1000 mana for the skill and get nuked in 1 hit. Sure experienced players will know it's coming, but newcomers won't.



    Re: Hero: Imin Taigai

    Lyncor - 11.03.2007, 22:09


    Why is a Shaolin Monk an Intel Nuker?



    Re: Hero: Imin Taigai

    Anton - 11.03.2007, 23:38


    what lyncor said. shouldnt he be a combat caster?



    Re: Hero: Imin Taigai

    Viziroth - 12.03.2007, 06:26


    WEll yeah he should...but a chi blast is an int based thing I would belive...if you have a better class by all means say it...



    Re: Hero: Imin Taigai

    Lyncor - 12.03.2007, 08:40


    It's up to everyone else to decide if it'll be any better or worse than any of the heroes here, but Anton and I are working on a hero :)

    No more info until it's complete, though, sorry :D



    Re: Hero: Imin Taigai

    Viziroth - 12.03.2007, 14:00


    can't wait



    Re: Hero: Imin Taigai

    Shadow Phoenix - 13.03.2007, 09:14


    I know their hero ;) Its very good. And very skill based. Cant wait to see it on paper.



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