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Re: Bury My Heart at Wounded Knee
newnativspirit - 28.05.2007, 15:53Bury My Heart at Wounded Knee
I´m pretty much sure, that the link already got put up here on the board, but I want to do it so everyone has the chance to take a look at that wonderful new mini-series. I wish so bad that I could see it !!! Hopefully it will come out on DVD this year and maybe I can get it while I´m in the States.
I know this one will make me cry - the trailer already did ! It´s because of the story and the fact that the Sioux people just had no chance at all !!!
There are some really good comments of Adam Beach and Aidan Quinn! Watch out for them !
http://www.hbo.com/films/burymyheart/video/
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emerald - 28.05.2007, 17:45
I just saw this movie last night, and I have to say, it was hard to watch sometimes! Oh, everything that took place was so full of darkness, there wasn't a light moment the harshness just kept going to the end. Adam is a very good actor, I didn't know he was so good. It was hard seeing eddie cry, and he did a lot of crying that is for sure, it was too real. At times toward the end I wanted to get out of my seat, I couldn't take anymore. Pure emotion and reality, is how I would describe the film. You all should see it, it's good to learn the history.
Re: Bury My Heart at Wounded Knee
eddiefever - 28.05.2007, 20:26
wow ,i hope i'll have the change to see it soon as wel
Re: Bury My Heart at Wounded Knee
evenstar - 29.05.2007, 05:01
I really hope to see it too.
Re: Bury My Heart at Wounded Knee
mouseears89 - 29.05.2007, 15:47
Watch 15 minutes Sunday night... watched same 15 mins Monday night... but HUBBY WAS MAKING ME CRAZY AND WOULDN'T LET ME WATCH IT!!!!
SO, I finally stayed up and watched it last night (still Monday night, but very late) and have to say- OMG!!! So sad to see that some people were so ignorant. And I loved the fact that they gave both sides of the view, not just one. It was also great to see that even the "heros" are not perfect people, and they thought they were doing good for the Indians, but it turns out that you can only do so much when you rip a culture from a people and expect them to just graciously accept the change.
Very powerful performances from all the actors. I'm not a big Anna Paquin fan, but I do think she did an above average job (being coy I know) and was very pleased she choose to do the film. Yes Emerald, it was very hard to see Eddie crying- it just rips your heart to pieces when he is mourning the losses in his life. :cry: :cry: :cry: This was a stellar performance from Nathan Lee Chasing His Horse- and I could go on and on about all the actors, because they certainly deserve it, but I'll keep this post short. Definite recommendation if you are able to watch it.
Also, saw a glimpse of a new movie HBO will be doing in 2008 called "John Adams". In case you may not know- he was one of our presidents during the "formative years". Laura Linnie plays his wife Abigail- so I foresee this to be a wonderful epic as well.
Re: Bury My Heart at Wounded Knee
enelya06 - 29.05.2007, 16:06
I saw the trailer for John Adams too. I watched in Sunday night but had so many interuptions I watched it again on Monday - it was awsome but painful and you are right at least it showed both sides..
I got the HBO channels for a special they were running for $13.00 a month (direct TV) you could have them - really didn't have the extra money but thought what the hey.
Sean was impressive as well - he lost like Eddie did....but didn't cry.
I think I cried enough for him and throughout the movie.
Re: Bury My Heart at Wounded Knee
mouseears89 - 30.05.2007, 05:00
Glad you got to see the movie. I sent you an email about it- just an FYI. So how many boxes of tissues did you use? I have about 1 box of 216 almost gone. :cry: :cry:
Re: Bury My Heart at Wounded Knee
enelya06 - 30.05.2007, 13:56
I went through just about a box. I watched it Sunday night (with so many interuptions) I decided to watch it again on Monday. I could not put my feelings into too many words for fear it would come out all wrong...but it was extremely painful.
Re: Bury My Heart at Wounded Knee
eddiefever - 31.05.2007, 23:13
Link to tv-guide BMHAWK:
http://yalestation.org/guide/tv?p=MV1946260000
for those who can see the movie:
enjoy !!! :D
Re: Bury My Heart at Wounded Knee
mouseears89 - 01.06.2007, 07:12
I wish our European and Oz friends could see this movie. If I hear of it going onto DVD, I'll be sure to let you know. I watched it again tonight and I'm just falling in love with the movie. I wish it was longer, but 2 hrs. 10 minutes just isn't long enough to see our guys. The reviews over here have been very positive. The only downside was that the NA actors were underutilized (especially Eric Schweig and Nathan Lee Chasing Horse) from what one article said. Which I do agree- I Loved Eric's part in this movie. He has a face that can tell a whole story without ever saying a word.
Re: Bury My Heart at Wounded Knee
eddiefever - 01.06.2007, 12:06
i found an interview of Adam Beach about BMHAWK
i'm gonna putt it in his Thread :D
Re: Bury My Heart at Wounded Knee
eddiefever - 01.06.2007, 12:14
2 links to Pics of BMHAWK
http://www.tvguide.com/tvshows/bury-heart-wounded/288000
( click on View Photo Gallery ,under the pic of "Sitting Bull" )
http://www.tv.com/bury-my-heart-at-wounded-knee/show/72223/photos.html?om_act=convert&om_clk=picssh&tag=pictures;more
ENJOY !!!! :D
Re: Bury My Heart at Wounded Knee
enelya06 - 01.06.2007, 15:01
They had a documentary on after the movie - talking about it and I hope when it comes out on DVD they add that to it.
Re: Bury My Heart at Wounded Knee
eddiefever - 01.06.2007, 20:30
i hope so to
Re: Bury My Heart at Wounded Knee
enelya06 - 01.06.2007, 21:26
it's going to be shown the whole month of June as well but I'll wait for the DVD to come out since I cancelled HBO.
They are calling for a chance of t-storms here this weekend - I hope we get a little something.
Tonight is my long night - I have to work JCP from 5 to 10 - I'll leave here in about a hour and go straight there but I'm off this weekend. :P
Re: Bury My Heart at Wounded Knee
evenstar - 05.06.2007, 05:12
I really hope I get to see the film one day.
Re: Bury My Heart at Wounded Knee
redc - 19.07.2007, 16:36
So the Primetime Emmy nominations are in - here's the list of what BMHAWK has been nominated in and who they're up against - shame but Adam & Eddie were completely over looked. Kudos to August though!!
Outstanding Art Direction For A Miniseries, Or Movie
Broken Trail • AMC • Once Upon a Time Films in association with Butcher's Run Films
Bury My Heart At Wounded Knee • HBO • Wolf Film/Traveler's Rest Film in association with HBO Films
Jane Eyre (Masterpiece Theatre) • PBS • A BBC/WGBH Boston Co-Production
Return To Halloweentown • Disney Channel • Just Singer Entertainment in association with The Disney Channel
The Starter Wife • USA • Hay Pop Pty Limited in association with McGibbon/Parriott Productions and 3 Arts Entertainment, for NBC Universal Television Studio
Outstanding Casting For A Miniseries, Movie Or A Special
Broken Trail • AMC • Once Upon a Time Films in association with Butcher's Run Films
Bury My Heart At Wounded Knee • HBO • Wolf Film/Traveler's Rest Film in association with HBO Films
Jane Eyre (Masterpiece Theatre) • PBS • A BBC/WGBH Boston Co-Production
Di Carling, Casting Director The Path To 9/11 • ABC • Marc Platt Productions in association with ABC Studios
The Ron Clark Story • TNT • Granada America and MAGNA Global Entertainment
The Starter Wife • USA • Hay Pop Pty Limited in association with McGibbon/Parriott Productions and 3 Arts Entertainment, for NBC Universal Television Studio
Outstanding Cinematography For A Miniseries Or Movie
Broken Trail • Part 1 • AMC • Once Upon a Time Films in association with Butcher's Run Films
Bury My Heart At Wounded Knee • HBO • Wolf Film/Traveler's Rest Film in association with HBO Films
Jane Eyre (Masterpiece Theatre) • Part 1 • PBS • A BBC/WGBH Boston Co-Production
The Path To 9/11 • Night 2 • ABC • Marc Platt Productions in association with ABC Studios
The Valley Of Light (Hallmark Hall Of Fame Presentation) • CBS • Hallmark Hall of Fame Productions, Inc.
Outstanding Costumes For A Miniseries, Movie Or A Special
Broken Trail • Part 2 • AMC • Once Upon a Time Films in association with Butcher's Run Films
Bury My Heart At Wounded Knee • HBO • Wolf Film/Traveler's Rest Film in association with HBO Films
Jane Eyre (Masterpiece Theatre) • Part 1 • PBS • A BBC/WGBH Boston Co-Production
Longford • HBO • A Granada Production in association with Channel 4 and HBO Films
The Starter Wife • Part 1 • USA • Hay Pop Pty Limited in association with McGibbon/Parriott Productions and 3 Arts Entertainment, for NBC Universal Television Studio
Outstanding Directing For A Miniseries, Movie Or A Dramatic Special
Broken Trail • Part 1 & Part 2 • AMC • Once Upon a Time Films in association with Butcher's Run Films
Walter Hill, Director
Bury My Heart At Wounded Knee • HBO • Wolf Film/Traveler's Rest Film in association with HBO Films
Yves Simoneau, Director
Jane Eyre (Masterpiece Theatre) • PBS • A BBC/WGBH Boston Co-Production
Susanna White, Director
Prime Suspect: The Final Act (Masterpiece Theatre) • PBS • ITV Productions and WGBH Boston co-production
Philip Martin, Director
Tsunami, The Aftermath • Part 1 & Part 2 • HBO • A Kudos Film and Television Production in association with the BBC and HBO Films
Bharat Nalluri, Director
Outstanding Hairstyling For A Miniseries, Movie Or A Special
79th Annual Academy Awards • ABC • Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences
Broken Trail • AMC • Once Upon a Time Films in association with Butcher's Run Films
Bury My Heart At Wounded Knee • HBO • Wolf Film/Traveler's Rest Film in association with HBO Films
Jane Eyre (Masterpiece Theatre) • PBS • A BBC/WGBH Boston Co-Production
Outstanding Made For Television Movie
Bury My Heart At Wounded Knee • HBO • Wolf Film/Traveler's Rest Film in association with HBO Films
Inside The Twin Towers • Discovery Channel • A Dangerous Films Productions for BBC / RTL / France 2 and Discovery Channel in association with Blakeway Productions
Longford • HBO • A Granada Production in association with Channel 4 and HBO Films
The Ron Clark Story • TNT • Granada America and MAGNA Global Entertainment
Why I Wore Lipstick To My Mastectomy • Lifetime • Produced by Grossbart Kent for Lifetime Television
Outstanding Makeup For A Miniseries, Movie Or A Special (non-prosthetic)
Broken Trail • AMC • Once Upon a Time Films in association with Butcher's Run Films
Bury My Heart At Wounded Knee • HBO • Wolf Film/Traveler's Rest Film in association with HBO Films
Desperate Crossing: The Untold Story Of The Mayflower • The History Channel • Lonewolf Documentary Group for The History Channel
Nightmares & Dreamscapes: From The Stories Of Stephen King • TNT • Ostar Productions
The Starter Wife • USA • Hay Pop Pty Limited in association with McGibbon/Parriott Productions and 3 Arts Entertainment, for NBC Universal Television Studio
Outstanding Music Composition For A Miniseries, Movie Or A Special (original Dramatic Score)
Boffo! Tinseltown's Bombs And Blockbusters • HBO • The Couturie Company in association with HBO Documentary Films
Broken Trail • AMC • Once Upon a Time Films in association with Butcher's Run Films
Bury My Heart At Wounded Knee • HBO • Wolf Film/Traveler's Rest Film in association with HBO Films
George S Clinton, Composer
Longford • HBO • A Granada Production in association with Channel 4 and HBO Films
Nightmares & Dreamscapes: From The Stories Of Stephen King • Battleground • TNT • Ostar Productions
The Librarian: Return To King Solomon's Mines • TNT • Electric Entertainment
Joseph LeDuca, Music by The Path To 9/11 • ABC • Marc Platt Productions in association with ABC Studios
Outstanding Single-camera Picture Editing For A Miniseries Or A Movie
Broken Trail • Part 2 • AMC • Once Upon a Time Films in association with Butcher's Run Films
Bury My Heart At Wounded Knee • HBO • Wolf Film/Traveler's Rest Film in association with HBO Films
Jane Eyre (Masterpiece Theatre) • Part 1 • PBS • A BBC/WGBH Boston Co-Production
Life Support • HBO • Foxx/King Entertainment, Flavor Unit Films, Urban Romances and Shelby Stone Productions in association with HBO Films
The Path To 9/11 • Night 2 • ABC • Marc Platt Productions in association with ABC Studios
The Starter Wife • Part 3 • USA • Hay Pop Pty Limited in association with McGibbon/Parriott Productions and 3 Arts Entertainment, for NBC Universal Television Studio
Outstanding Sound Editing For A Miniseries, Movie Or A Special
Broken Trail • Night 2 • AMC • Once Upon a Time Films in association with Butcher's Run Films
Bury My Heart At Wounded Knee • HBO • Wolf Film/Traveler's Rest Film in association with HBO Films
The Librarian: Return To King Solomon's Mines • TNT • Electric Entertainment
The Path To 9/11 • Night 1 • ABC • Marc Platt Productions in association with ABC Studios
Tsunami, The Aftermath • Part 1 • HBO • A Kudos Film and Television Production in association with the BBC and HBO Films
Outstanding Sound Mixing For A Miniseries Or A Movie
Broken Trail • Night 2 • AMC • Once Upon a Time Films in association with Butcher's Run Films
Bury My Heart At Wounded Knee • HBO • Wolf Film/Traveler's Rest Film in association with HBO Films
Jane Eyre (Masterpiece Theatre) • Part 1 • PBS • A BBC/WGBH Boston Co-Production
Krakatoa: Volcano Of Destruction • Discovery Channel • A BBC/Discovery Channel/RTL/France2 Co-Production
The Lost Room • The Key And The Clock (Night 1) • Sci Fi Channel • Lions Gate Entertainment
Outstanding Special Visual Effects For A Miniseries, Movie Or A Special
Bury My Heart At Wounded Knee • HBO • Wolf Film/Traveler's Rest Film in association with HBO Films
Drive • The Starting Line • Fox.com • 20th Century Fox Television
Nightmares & Dreamscapes: From The Stories Of Stephen King • The End Of The Whole Mess • TNT • Ostar Productions
Nightmares & Dreamscapes: From the Stories of Stephen King • Battleground • TNT • Ostar Productions
Secrets Of The Deep • Discovery Channel • Impossible Pictures in association with Discovery Channel
The Path To 9/11 • Night 2 • ABC • Marc Platt Productions in association with ABC Studios
Outstanding Supporting Actor In A Miniseries Or A Movie
Broken Trail • AMC • Once Upon a Time Films in association with Butcher's Run Films
Thomas Haden, Thomas Haden Church as Tom Harte
Bury My Heart At Wounded Knee • HBO • Wolf Film/Traveler's Rest Film in association with HBO Films
Aidan Quinn, Aidan Quinn as Senator Dawes
Bury My Heart At Wounded Knee • HBO • Wolf Film/Traveler's Rest Film in association with HBO Films
August Schellenberg, August Schellenberg as Sitting Bull
The Christmas Card • Hallmark • RHI Entertainment presents an Alpine Medien Production in association with Larry Levinson Productions
Edward Asner, Edward Asner as Luke Spelman
The Starter Wife • USA • Hay Pop Pty Limited in association with McGibbon/Parriott Productions and 3 Arts Entertainment, for NBC Universal Television Studio
Joe Mantegna, Joe Mantegna as Lou Manahan
Outstanding Supporting Actress In A Miniseries Or A Movie
Broken Trail • AMC • Once Upon a Time Films in association with Butcher's Run Films
Greta Scacchi, Greta Scacchi as Nola Johns
Bury My Heart At Wounded Knee • HBO • Wolf Film/Traveler's Rest Film in association with HBO Films
Anna Paquin, Anna Paquin as Elaine Goodale
Longford • HBO • A Granada Production in association with Channel 4 and HBO Films
Samantha Morton, Samantha Morton as Myra Hindley
The Starter Wife • USA • Hay Pop Pty Limited in association with McGibbon/Parriott Productions and 3 Arts Entertainment, for NBC Universal Television Studio
Judy Davis, Judy Davis as Joan McAllister
Tsunami, The Aftermath • HBO • A Kudos Film and Television Production in association with the BBC and HBO Films
Toni Collette, Toni Collette as Kathy Graham
Outstanding Writing For A Miniseries, Movie Or A Dramatic Special
Broken Trail • AMC • Once Upon a Time Films in association with Butcher's Run Films
Alan Geoffrion, Writer
Bury My Heart At Wounded Knee • HBO • Wolf Film/Traveler's Rest Film in association with HBO Films
Daniel Giat, Writer
Jane Eyre (Masterpiece Theatre) • Parts 1 & 2 • PBS • A BBC/WGBH Boston Co-Production
Sandy Welch, Adapted by
Prime Suspect: The Final Act (Masterpiece Theatre) • PBS • ITV Productions and WGBH Boston co-production
Frank Deasy, Writer
The Starter Wife • USA • Hay Pop Pty Limited in association with McGibbon/Parriott Productions and 3 Arts Entertainment, for NBC Universal Television Studio
Josann McGibbon, Writer
Sara Parriott, Writer
To see the complete list - Primetime Emmy Nominations
Re: Bury My Heart at Wounded Knee
enelya06 - 19.07.2007, 16:55
Oh please,,,, Please,,,,, PLEASE,,,, P L E A S E,,,, let BMHAWK win. And the actor/actresses who are up for nominations win too.
Re: Bury My Heart at Wounded Knee
redc - 19.07.2007, 18:37
Yeah I'm hoping they win some - they have the most nominations - fingers crossed.
HELP! I thought I had read on here (or somewhere) that someone posted the release date for BMHAWK DVD as September 11th - but I can't find a post about it here and can't find any info about it else where - I swear I'm losing my mind, did I make that date up?
Re: Bury My Heart at Wounded Knee
newnativspirit - 19.07.2007, 19:05
yes, it´s scheduled to release September 11th. You can already preorder it.
Re: Bury My Heart at Wounded Knee
enelya06 - 19.07.2007, 19:13
can we preorder at the BMHAWK site.
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redc - 19.07.2007, 20:08
newnativspirit wrote: yes, it´s scheduled to release September 11th. You can already preorder it.
Do you know where from? I can't find a listing of it on amazon.com. Thanks.
Re: Bury My Heart at Wounded Knee
enelya06 - 19.07.2007, 20:13
let me check.
Re: Bury My Heart at Wounded Knee
enelya06 - 19.07.2007, 20:21
what you need to do is in the search line type in Bury My Heart at Wounded Knee DVD. I did this and it brought me to Amazon and there the movie was - however it did say it wasn't available right now but would be out 9/11 (not a favoriate date) but I saw nothing about preordering. I do know that some stores like Sam Goody and Suncoast will let you pre-order it. They ask you to put down $5.00 and then you pay the balance when the movie comes in.
Re: Bury My Heart at Wounded Knee
redc - 19.07.2007, 20:41
Coolio - thanks enelya06 - I seriously thought I was losing my mind! :lol:
Oh I forgot to mention that the Primetime Emmys are live on Fox Sunday September 16th @ 8:00 pm EST.
Re: Bury My Heart at Wounded Knee
newnativspirit - 19.07.2007, 20:45
you can preorder at amazon.com! There is a button "preorder now" and you´ll get asked if you want an email notification once the Dvd is available. It should also be possible at HBO (I remember that for Into the West there was a preorder button on the TNT website for the Dvd as well)... but I didn´t check that out. Amazon should work for you ...
I preordered ITW in a store at the West Edmonton Mall when I was there back in 2007 - if you have any good music or Dvd store around it should be possible at well - just go and ask. They can check their order lists in the computer and let you know when the new movies do come in.
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enelya06 - 19.07.2007, 21:23
Hey no problem.
Suncoast/SamGoody will let you preorder it and that's probably what I'll do because I can go get it when it comes out.
Re: Bury My Heart at Wounded Knee
eddiefever - 20.07.2007, 16:21
am i looking over it or are there 16 nominatiosn posted
cause i read that BMHAWk was nominated 17 times ???
Re: Bury My Heart at Wounded Knee
redc - 20.07.2007, 17:52
eddiefever wrote: am i looking over it or are there 16 nominatiosn posted
cause i read that BMHAWk was nominated 17 times ???
Yep - I missed one - edited to add in Outstanding Single Camera Editing. :D
Re: Bury My Heart at Wounded Knee
enelya06 - 20.07.2007, 19:19
I just hope they win something. I feel it may but it's up against some pretty good others - course I've not seen the others because they appear stupid to me. (Just my opinion)
Re: Bury My Heart at Wounded Knee
redc - 20.07.2007, 20:16
enelya06 wrote: I just hope they win something. I feel it may but it's up against some pretty good others - course I've not seen the others because they appear stupid to me. (Just my opinion)
Funny - 'cause I keep thinking the same. 17 nominations - they HAVE to win something.
Re: Bury My Heart at Wounded Knee
enelya06 - 20.07.2007, 20:22
yes I know and some of them were like first on the list some were 2nd and a few were 3rd.
Re: Bury My Heart at Wounded Knee
newnativspirit - 21.07.2007, 11:09
Let´s see what will happen. I´m not sure, but wasn´t Michael nominated for an Emmy as well (ITW) and didn´t win? I´m sure BMHAWK will get some Emmy´s, but to be honest I doubt that it will be one of the NA actors to get one ... we will see.
Re: Bury My Heart at Wounded Knee
eddiefever - 22.07.2007, 01:35
i think the same as Anne
the NA actors deserve it ,but i doubt that they will get them
btw it happend before that a movie with so many nominations went hope empty handed or with just 1 or 2 prises
besides ,that Godfather serie must be very populair
so i think that one will win a lot of awards :?
Re: Bury My Heart at Wounded Knee
Mela - 22.07.2007, 10:58
Does anybody knows what happend after the Wounded Knee?
Re: Bury My Heart at Wounded Knee
newnativspirit - 22.07.2007, 11:57
What exactly do you mean? History wise?
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Mela - 22.07.2007, 13:59
What happend with the NA people after Wounded Knee?
Re: Bury My Heart at Wounded Knee
newnativspirit - 22.07.2007, 14:49
Historically, Wounded Knee is generally considered to be the end of the Indian Wars, the collective multi-century series of conflicts between colonial and U.S. forces and American Indian peoples. But it wasn´t.
The NA people kept on living on the reservations and for some time dealed with their situation, but there were always people fighing the white governement.
The government tried to hide the big tragedy from the US population and they´ve been successful with this for a while. In the late 20th century, critical reaction to the event became more widespread and vocal. Many consider the incident one of the most grievous atrocities in United States history.
Finally in 1970 it was the subject of the best-selling book "Bury My Heart at Wounded Knee" by historian Dee Brown, which we all know from the movie. Some of you might have read it and know what it is about ... Mela, try to get it!
More than eighty years after the massacre (February 27 in 1973) Wounded Knee was also the site of a 71-day standoff between federal authorities and militants of the American Indian Movement. This was when even Europe got aware of NA people in America!
There is a Memorial Ride to Wounded Knee each year and you can visit the Wounded Knee Hill.
Still the people do suffer from that masacre, cause it was definitely the end of lots of hopes and dreams. The NA people realized that there is no way back to the old days.
Too many people had to die for no reason !!! Not only at Wounded Knee, but also since the day the white man came to Turtle Island.
"We were pow-wowing to our hearts content; We had the great spirit, we didn't need a president; 'Long came a white man from the civilized nations; now he ain't having second thoughts; but we've got reservations."
Re: Bury My Heart at Wounded Knee
Mela - 23.07.2007, 16:42
Thanks for the info Anne!! Iam hate how the white men have threated the NA people: :( :x Is this the biggest genocide?
Re: Bury My Heart at Wounded Knee
redc - 24.07.2007, 01:51
Mela wrote: Thanks for the info Anne!! Iam hate how the white men have threated the NA people: :( :x Is this the biggest genocide?
I'm not sure if it's the 'biggest' genocide as the numbers aren't too concrete (let's be honest no one in North America was interested in taking count before C.C. arrived). I'm not 100% certain, but I think that WWII would be the biggest genocide - those numbers are staggering.
But with that said, imho (and I'm sure yours and most everyone), regardless of the actual numbers - genocide in and of its self is horrible, wrong, evil, ignorant, arrogant, etc. It's some 'loser' in power trying to 'exterminate' a group of people for no reason what so ever. Said 'loser' may think he has a reason, but in reality (something I think they are lacking) - there is no reason, none, nada for that type of action.
It's pathetic.
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eddiefever - 24.07.2007, 23:16
redc wrote: Mela wrote: Thanks for the info Anne!! Iam hate how the white men have threated the NA people: :( :x Is this the biggest genocide?
I'm not sure if it's the 'biggest' genocide as the numbers aren't too concrete (let's be honest no one in North America was interested in taking count before C.C. arrived). I'm not 100% certain, but I think that WWII would be the biggest genocide - those numbers are staggering.
But with that said, imho (and I'm sure yours and most everyone), regardless of the actual numbers - genocide in and of its self is horrible, wrong, evil, ignorant, arrogant, etc. It's some 'loser' in power trying to 'exterminate' a group of people for no reason what so ever. Said 'loser' may think he has a reason, but in reality (something I think they are lacking) - there is no reason, none, nada for that type of action.
It's pathetic.
in my eyes it's genocide as wel
now my question
where the "Whites" that started this all Punnished
liek with the World war 1 & 2 ,ppl got punnished ,jailed
and even in Kosovo ,Russia ,Iraq , Argentina ppl get punnished for starting a War or being an accompliss
Re: Bury My Heart at Wounded Knee
newnativspirit - 25.07.2007, 10:55
Why should they have punished anybody for Wounded Knee?
Nobody really cared about so many NA people were dying at WK. Reporters weren´t allowed to tell the truth and it took years until some true reports about Wounded Knee suddenly appeared. They made such a big thing out of the Ghost Dance, that the people were scared and for sure that the NA people were getting ready to start kind of war against the white people. So the whites were only defending themselves at WK. Only those who experienced WK themselves knew what really happened.
It´s a shame what happened - I mean, the way of information at this time. But as long as the public doesn´t get aware of the truth they can´t judge! That was a save way for the governement/army to prove their actions as the right ones.
Re: Bury My Heart at Wounded Knee
enelya06 - 25.07.2007, 17:37
newnativspirit wrote: Why should they have punished anybody for Wounded Knee?
Nobody really cared about so many NA people were dying at WK. Reporters weren´t allowed to tell the truth and it took years until some true reports about Wounded Knee suddenly appeared. They made such a big thing out of the Ghost Dance, that the people were scared and for sure that the NA people were getting ready to start kind of war against the white people. So the whites were only defending themselves at WK. Only those who experienced WK themselves knew what really happened.
It´s a shame what happened - I mean, the way of information at this time. But as long as the public doesn´t get aware of the truth they can´t judge! That was a save way for the governement/army to prove their actions as the right ones.
Yes the government still doesn't want the people to know the truth but I'm so glad a movie was made about it. There were also more whites and even soldiers who did not want to fight and live in peace but then you had the dog soldiers (renegades). There were bad on both sides but the innocent were the ones who paid the price. It's like that in todays world and has been for generations. It only takes 1 to stir the pot.
Re: Bury My Heart at Wounded Knee
eddiefever - 26.07.2007, 10:29
[quote="enelya06"][quote="newnativspirit"]Why should they have punished anybody for Wounded Knee?
Nobody really cared about so many NA people were dying at WK. Reporters weren´t allowed to tell the truth and it took years until some true reports about Wounded Knee suddenly appeared. They made such a big thing out of the Ghost Dance, that the people were scared and for sure that the NA people were getting ready to start kind of war against the white people. So the whites were only defending themselves at WK. Only those who experienced WK themselves knew what really happened.
It´s a shame what happened - I mean, the way of information at this time. But as long as the public doesn´t get aware of the truth they can´t judge! That was a save way for the governement/army to prove their actions as the right ones.[/quote]
Yes the government still doesn't want the people to know the truth but I'm so glad a movie was made about it. There were also more whites and even soldiers who did not want to fight and live in peace but then you had the dog soldiers (renegades). There were bad on both sides but the innocent were the ones who paid the price. It's like that in todays world and has been for generations. It only takes 1 to stir the pot.[/quote]
ooh ,yeah forgot about that :? :cry:
that is true to ,to bad when your a Soldier ,you must do as you are ordered or else your a deserter & you get paid big time ,specially in those days
shamely the last as is true as wel ,the innocents always pay the price :cry:
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enelya06 - 26.07.2007, 14:07
Soldiers were horse whipped if they were caught (after disertion) or executed.
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Mela - 26.07.2007, 15:55
enelya06 wrote: newnativspirit wrote: Why should they have punished anybody for Wounded Knee?
Nobody really cared about so many NA people were dying at WK. Reporters weren´t allowed to tell the truth and it took years until some true reports about Wounded Knee suddenly appeared. They made such a big thing out of the Ghost Dance, that the people were scared and for sure that the NA people were getting ready to start kind of war against the white people. So the whites were only defending themselves at WK. Only those who experienced WK themselves knew what really happened.
It´s a shame what happened - I mean, the way of information at this time. But as long as the public doesn´t get aware of the truth they can´t judge! That was a save way for the governement/army to prove their actions as the right ones.
Yes the government still doesn't want the people to know the truth but I'm so glad a movie was made about it. There were also more whites and even soldiers who did not want to fight and live in peace but then you had the dog soldiers (renegades). There were bad on both sides but the innocent were the ones who paid the price. It's like that in todays world and has been for generations. It only takes 1 to stir the pot.
Who where the dog soldiers?
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redc - 26.07.2007, 16:37
eddiefever wrote: redc wrote: Mela wrote: Thanks for the info Anne!! Iam hate how the white men have threated the NA people: :( :x Is this the biggest genocide?
I'm not sure if it's the 'biggest' genocide as the numbers aren't too concrete (let's be honest no one in North America was interested in taking count before C.C. arrived). I'm not 100% certain, but I think that WWII would be the biggest genocide - those numbers are staggering.
But with that said, imho (and I'm sure yours and most everyone), regardless of the actual numbers - genocide in and of its self is horrible, wrong, evil, ignorant, arrogant, etc. It's some 'loser' in power trying to 'exterminate' a group of people for no reason what so ever. Said 'loser' may think he has a reason, but in reality (something I think they are lacking) - there is no reason, none, nada for that type of action.
It's pathetic.
in my eyes it's genocide as wel
now my question
where the "Whites" that started this all Punnished
liek with the World war 1 & 2 ,ppl got punnished ,jailed
and even in Kosovo ,Russia ,Iraq , Argentina ppl get punnished for starting a War or being an accompliss
It was genocide, I wasn't implying that what happened during the Indian Wars (and to some extent continued to this day) was not genocide - it was. Most of the early settlers wanted the NA/FN people gone. Period.
In response to the "who where the Dog Soldiers?" - this is directly from the BMHAWK book:
Quote: The Southern Cheyennes had drifted below the Platte River, establishing villages on the Colorado and Kansas plains. Black Kettle of the Southern branch had been a great warrior in his youth. In his late middle age, he was the acknowledged chief, but the younger men and the Hotamitaneos (Dog Soldiers) of the Southern Cheyennes were more inclined to follow leaders such as Tall Bull and Roman Nose, who were in their prime.
Here is a link to some more info:
Dog Soldiers
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Mela - 26.07.2007, 18:19
Do you know wish "Indian Tribe" that was most brutal?
I have heard the crows.
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enelya06 - 26.07.2007, 19:39
I know the Crow were very brutle to the Lakota but I think in each tribe they had some "trouble makers"
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redc - 26.07.2007, 20:28
enelya06 wrote: I know the Crow were very brutle to the Lakota but I think in each tribe they had some "trouble makers"
Exactly.
And who was it who said the Crow were the most hostile? Meaning, it's usually the 'victim' who says such things - so in reality it's not the most honest assessment of a group of people. Not that it's wrong to say the Crow were the most hostile...but it's like tribal names...it seems that it was never the actual 'tribe' telling the settlers their collective name - it seems that it was their neighbour.
For instance I'm sure if you asked the Crow what they thought of the Lakota people after a 'raid' - they would not have nice things to say about them - and in their (the Crow's) opinion the Lakota would be the most hostile/violent.
So really, it all depends on who you ask and when you ask.
Hope that makes sense.
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enelya06 - 26.07.2007, 21:41
That does make sense - too didn't the tribes all warred with each other....if my memory serves I read that somewhere.
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Idril - 27.07.2007, 17:09
I think the Northamerican indians were quite harmless. If you look to Middleamerica you find tribes who killed people as a sacrifice. I'm not sure which one and I don't know the eniglish name either, but I can search for it if you want me to. :wink:
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enelya06 - 27.07.2007, 17:18
I think I'll go to the library and find some books on the history or possibly can get it on the computer. There are so many different ones.
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newnativspirit - 27.07.2007, 18:44
enelya06 wrote: That does make sense - too didn't the tribes all warred with each other....if my memory serves I read that somewhere.
I´ve read that they were quite peaceful people as long as each tribe stayed in its territory.
I´m pretty much sure that the North American tribes had some real cruel rituals as well ... just remember what happened to women when they fooled their men. If we would go further into it, it would take us months to list everything up, cause there were too many different tribes with totally different rituals - that was before the white man came to "rescue" the savage people. Then it changed pretty fast, cause so many people got killed and different tribes got put together on reservations ... culture and rituals got mixed up and lots of rituals got forbidden, because they were kind of cruel. It´s really pretty complex, but to find out about the real old ways - that was way before Christopher Columbus!
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redc - 27.07.2007, 20:24
Idril wrote: I think the Northamerican indians were quite harmless. If you look to Middleamerica you find tribes who killed people as a sacrifice. I'm not sure which one and I don't know the eniglish name either, but I can search for it if you want me to. :wink:
I'm not so sure I'd use the word 'harmless'. They did 'fight' with each other - some may have been more peaceful - and I'm sure it wasn't 'war' all the time - but some did conduct raids on other people for their horses/land. To think they were a completely peaceful people prior to the arrival of the European's is a bit narrow-minded (not saying this about you, just saying).
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eddiefever - 27.07.2007, 20:33
enelya06 wrote: I think I'll go to the library and find some books on the history or possibly can get it on the computer. There are so many different ones.
that's true
here is a link with all the tribes
http://www.native-languages.org/languages.htm#alpha
i already posted it in the NA Linkcollection
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Idril - 28.07.2007, 16:16
redc wrote: Idril wrote: I think the Northamerican indians were quite harmless. If you look to Middleamerica you find tribes who killed people as a sacrifice. I'm not sure which one and I don't know the eniglish name either, but I can search for it if you want me to. :wink:
I'm not so sure I'd use the word 'harmless'. They did 'fight' with each other - some may have been more peaceful - and I'm sure it wasn't 'war' all the time - but some did conduct raids on other people for their horses/land. To think they were a completely peaceful people prior to the arrival of the European's is a bit narrow-minded (not saying this about you, just saying).
I just used "harmless" to make the difference more clear. I didn't mean to offend anyone by using this world and I know they weren't peaceful all the time :wink:
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enelya06 - 28.07.2007, 21:49
You didn't offend me by using that word. I think it was a very difficult time back then and so many "lies" and mistrust because there were some who were bent on keeping the fighting alive.
I need a nap
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Idril - 29.07.2007, 11:46
thx
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enelya06 - 29.07.2007, 19:27
you're welcome
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redc - 01.09.2007, 02:52
Hola - HBO's website finally has info up about the DVD:
Bury My Heart at Wounded Knee - HBO Store
Amazon.com also has more info up:
BMHAWK - Amazon
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enelya06 - 01.09.2007, 05:06
Great news - I can't wait to get my copy.
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newnativspirit - 01.09.2007, 08:22
I´m still offering to bring copies for the European fans, when I go to the States in November!
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enelya06 - 02.09.2007, 03:34
I am really getting excited about it coming out but it's a difficult movie to watch but it's excellent. I thought Sitting Bull was going to kill Bull Head but instead he shot his horse - that was painful. i sure hope there are some awards for them at the grammy's because they really deserve it.
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redc - 09.09.2007, 17:37
The first awards roll in!!
'Wounded Knee' tops Creative Emmys
The Creative Emmys were held last night (Saturday September 8th) and BMHAWK won five awards - HBO won a total of 15. BMHAWK won for: makeup, picture editing, sound mixing and editing and cinematography.
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newnativspirit - 09.09.2007, 18:26
That´s good news !!!
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Idril - 09.09.2007, 19:50
cool :D
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enelya06 - 09.09.2007, 19:59
wonderful to hear. I checked the emmys here and Bury My Heart and the actors were not doing as well as some of the other shows.
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eddiefever - 12.09.2007, 09:52
redc wrote: The first awards roll in!!
'Wounded Knee' tops Creative Emmys
The Creative Emmys were held last night (Saturday September 8th) and BMHAWK won five awards - HBO won a total of 15. BMHAWK won for: makeup, picture editing, sound mixing and editing and cinematography. yay !!!
*does victory dance* :D
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enelya06 - 12.09.2007, 11:50
Oh Happy Days! Very excited. :D
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enelya06 - 14.09.2007, 20:39
I'm being a baaaaad girl today......I'm watching Bury My Heart and working too......
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eddiefever - 14.09.2007, 20:56
oooeee your definatly being a bad girl
don't let the boss catch you :wink:
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enelya06 - 14.09.2007, 21:51
I didn't :lol: :lol: everytime he or anyone else came around I minimized the screen on my computer :roll: . Course at lunch time I watched it for an hour without having to turn the sound down - Sarait and Dinesh watched the first hour with me. We had pop corn and they had soft drinks I had water.
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eddiefever - 15.09.2007, 22:20
:lol: ,your such a sneaky girl
but it helps when you have 3 pair of eyes :wink:
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enelya06 - 15.09.2007, 23:43
eddiefever wrote: :lol: ,your such a sneaky girl
but it helps when you have 3 pair of eyes :wink:
Don i know it :wink: On my lunch break I would not have got in trouble - just after my lunch break. :roll:
My belly is sore today - started on the burn it up DVD. it concentrates on your lower abs, stomach and butt. but as the saying goes - no pain no gain...but i'm not over doing it. I'm up to about a 45 minute work out now and this tape is an hour so I take a little at a time.
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eddiefever - 16.09.2007, 15:49
aaww ,yeah after a while work outs ,do become a pain in the ####
but after the pain you always feel like you've accomplished so much :D
and once the results ebgin to show ,it doesn't matter how much pain it costed :lol:
as long as it's been accomplished in a healthy way.
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newnativspirit - 16.09.2007, 18:59
back to the topic ...
For the German speaking fans:
Emmy-Awards in Nebenkategorien verliehen (Bericht vom 09.09.2007)
TV-Movie "Bury My Heart At Wounded Knee" bleibt großer Favorit für die Hauptawards - Drei Preise für Spike-Lee-Produktion
US-Fernsehfilm "Bury My Heart At Wounded Knee" großer Favorit für Emmy-Verleihung am kommenden Wochenende
Los Angeles - "Bury My Heart At Wounded Knee" hat sich als großer Favorit für die Emmy-Verleihung am kommenden Wochenende empfohlen. Bei der Vergabe der sogenannten Creative Arts Emmys, die wie üblich eine Woche vor der Hauptveranstaltung stattfand, räumte die US-Fernseh-Produktion am Samstag fünf der Preise ab. Der Film über das Massaker an den Sioux im Jahr 1890 führt die Liste der Emmy-Anwärter mit insgesamt 17 Nominierungen an.
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newnativspirit - 17.09.2007, 08:07
Here is what BMHAWK made at the Emmy´s last night:
OUTSTANDING MADE FOR TELEVISION MOVIE
BURY MY HEART AT WOUNDED KNEE HBO
Tom Thayer, Executive Producer
Dick Wolf, Executive Producer
Yves Simoneau, Co-Executive Producer
Clara George, Produced By
That makes a total of 6 for BMHAWK!
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eddiefever - 17.09.2007, 14:55
well done BMHAWK :D :D :D :D :D
btw is the DVD in stores?
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enelya06 - 17.09.2007, 16:35
yes, well done.
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newnativspirit - 17.09.2007, 16:36
YES, it is !!!!!!! And Nancy already got me a copy !!!!!!! So I´ll be watching it for sure in November :lol: :lol: :lol:
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enelya06 - 17.09.2007, 16:38
Yes you'll be watching it.....gosh it will be here before we know it.
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eddiefever - 17.09.2007, 20:14
newnativspirit wrote: YES, it is !!!!!!! And Nancy already got me a copy !!!!!!! So I´ll be watching it for sure in November :lol: :lol: :lol:
Lucky Girl !!! :D
Anne ,are you still going to buy extra copies of BMHAWK?
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newnativspirit - 17.09.2007, 22:31
Sure!!! I´ll get a few for European fans when I´m in the States!
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eddiefever - 18.09.2007, 22:19
could i give you money for a copy ,through internet-Banking?
cause i still haven't figured out Pay -Pal :? :(
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enelya06 - 19.09.2007, 04:15
I've never heard of internet banking..how does that work.
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newnativspirit - 19.09.2007, 08:42
You sure know online-banking!
eddiefever, you just have to get registrated at Pay-Pal using your email address and your bank account - that´s all. The program will lead you through the registration - it´s really easy! Transfering money works from one email address to another!
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enelya06 - 19.09.2007, 16:57
um is that like on-line bill paying?
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newnativspirit - 19.09.2007, 17:12
yep :wink:
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enelya06 - 19.09.2007, 17:22
Hey that's easy. Probably the easiest thing you can do on line.
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eddiefever - 20.09.2007, 23:25
newnativspirit wrote: You sure know online-banking!
eddiefever, you just have to get registrated at Pay-Pal using your email address and your bank account - that´s all. The program will lead you through the registration - it´s really easy! Transfering money works from one email address to another!
ok ,i'll try again :(
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newnativspirit - 02.01.2008, 15:02
2008 Golden Globe® Nominations:
Bury My Heart at Wounded Knee for
Best Mini-Series or Motion Picture Made for Television
Best Performance by an Actor in a Series, Mini-Series or Motion Picture Made for Television (Adam Beach)
Best Performance by an Actress in a Supporting Role in a Mini-Series or a Motion Picture Made for Television (Anna Paquin)
The presentation of “The 65th Annual Golden Globe® Awards” can be seen live on NBC Television at 8 p.m. EST, Sunday, January 13, 2008 !!!
"The 65th Annual Golden Globe Awards" will be seen in more than 150 countries worldwide and is one of the few awards ceremonies that span both television and motion picture achievements.
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mystere - 02.01.2008, 15:46
This date January 13th is the first night Comanche Moon is airing in the states.
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newnativspirit - 02.01.2008, 15:49
See how lucky you guys are ... LOL
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enelya06 - 02.01.2008, 19:10
January 13th - thanks for the info - I'll mark my calendar.
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mouseears89 - 05.01.2008, 06:16
I think the movie will be better than the Golden Globes. So this girlie will be watching CBS that night instead of NBC!
I do wish the best for all the actors and the movie itself being nominated, but I would rather watch something that is more interesting. My own opinion, don't want to influence anyone. Besides- who would want to see Tom Cruise when you can see Eddie Spears????? :twisted:
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enelya06 - 05.01.2008, 06:22
mouseears89 wrote: I think the movie will be better than the Golden Globes. So this girlie will be watching CBS that night instead of NBC!
I do wish the best for all the actors and the movie itself being nominated, but I would rather watch something that is more interesting. My own opinion, don't want to influence anyone. Besides- who would want to see Tom Cruise when you can see Eddie Spears????? :twisted:
I agree with you there - no offense to Tom but he can't hold a candle to Eddie. I never did care for Tom - there was something about him I just didn't like - nor did I care much for Brad Pitt.
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mouseears89 - 05.01.2008, 06:53
Now wait a minute- I could stare at Brad Pitt all day long! Especially in Legends of the Fall. :twisted: (We should have a smiley with the tounge dragging on the floor)
It would be a tie for me to watch Brad or Eddie. But in this case- because the awards show isn't my cup of tea, I would rather watch Eddie.
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enelya06 - 05.01.2008, 06:55
mouseears89 wrote: Now wait a minute- I could stare at Brad Pitt all day long! Especially in Legends of the Fall. :twisted: (We should have a smiley with the tounge dragging on the floor)
It would be a tie for me to watch Brad or Eddie. But in this case- because the awards show isn't my cup of tea, I would rather watch Eddie.
Yes they should (an icon with the tounge dragging).
Think I'm going to lady down on the couch and try to get some shut eye. Keri should be home around 1. Glad we are working the same time tomorrow - she'll be "dead" in the morning - so i'll drive us.
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evenstar - 15.01.2008, 04:19
mouseears89 wrote: Now wait a minute- I could stare at Brad Pitt all day long! Especially in Legends of the Fall. :twisted: (We should have a smiley with the tounge dragging on the floor)
It would be a tie for me to watch Brad or Eddie. But in this case- because the awards show isn't my cup of tea, I would rather watch Eddie.
Now, I will have to agree with you both there! I tolerated Tom when he was married to Nicole Kidman, but I always thought there was something not quite right about him. It's in his eyes I think. As for Brad, I never saw what all of the fuss was about, but am willing to make exceptions for him in Legends of the Fall and Troy (maybe it was the long hair)!
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Liadan - 26.04.2008, 22:06
:shock: OMG I finially watched BMHAWK (got the DVD as a birthdaypresent from a friend) and I am really impressed. This is such a good movie - and really shocking. I feel so sorry for all the innocent that had died, and of course their families. and I am shocked that, though Court ruled that there must be paid 600 million $ to the tribes it hasn't happened yet...
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newnativspirit - 26.04.2008, 22:20
maybe you are also shocked that still so many things regarding NA people didn´t happen yet ... they are still fighting for so many things courts already ruled so many years ago.
But I´m glad you finally got the movie. Didn´t watch it since I´ve been to the States last year :)
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eddiefever - 03.05.2008, 23:39
got some screencaps of some of the actors on BMHAWK
Enjoy !!! :D
i love this caption :D
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Liadan - 03.05.2008, 23:48
eddiefever wrote: got some screencaps of some of the actors on BMHAWK
Enjoy !!! :D
i love this caption :D
yayy.. thanks for sharing
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eddiefever - 04.05.2008, 00:57
your welcome :D
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newnativspirit - 04.05.2008, 19:53
the second pic is from Comanche Moon ... :wink:
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Soccer_lady - 04.05.2008, 19:58
Love the caps, thnx for sharing!!!
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eddiefever - 05.05.2008, 00:03
see ,i knew i had made pics of Comanche Moon ,but than i saw the pics of August & Wes so i knew those were from BMHAWKsorry for mixing them up ,but i got a good excuse.
i haven't seen the moveis yet ;) :lol:
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newnativspirit - 05.05.2008, 08:42
Hey, it´s no problem!!! Haven´t see Comanche Moon either, but remembered Eddie looks like this in it ... :)
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eddiefever - 06.05.2008, 15:48
now i don't got an excuse for it anymore :wink:
or do i.
since ppl call me the Mayor of Forgetfull Town
:lol: rofl!!anyways ,back to topic.
do any of you European ladies know if BMHAWK is finally buyable in Europe :?:
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newnativspirit - 06.05.2008, 17:48
Amazon.de is selling it!
http://amazon.de/s/ref=nb_ss_w?__mk_de_DE=%C5M%C5Z%D5%D1&url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=bury+my+heart+at+wounded+knee&Go.x=16&Go.y=14
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eddiefever - 07.05.2008, 23:02
Oh My Gosh :o
since the German Amazon has it ,i thougth i'd check out our own sellingsites once again
and *screams* They Have it to !!!
*faints*
ooh my ,i still can't believe it
*runs of to buy a copy*
thx Anne for the info :D
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newnativspirit - 08.05.2008, 11:17
you are welcome !!! :)
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redc - 08.05.2008, 21:52
Hola - actually all of those screen caps are from Comanche Moon. The one with Eddie is from the behind the scenes footage. :D
Do you have a link to where you found them? Thanks.
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eddiefever - 12.05.2008, 03:06
arg ,i'm getting so mixed up now. :? :oops: :? :?
ooh wait ,yup
in bury my heart he had different clothing on
(think i have screencaps of that to *thinks* )
i'm SOO SOO SORRY for the mix up :oops: :oops: :(
PS: Anne ,should i delete the pics and re-post in the other topic
or can you move them ?
PPS: because of my mistake i'm uploading REAL BMHAWK screencaps in my bucket ,so i can post them on here.
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newnativspirit - 12.05.2008, 09:28
Don´t worry about the pics ... for now leave them where they are.
If you have new ones post them or the link to your photobucket - whatever you want.
:wink:
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Peregrin - 12.05.2008, 13:30
Imagine that... :
the Hungarian HBO showed this fantastic film at last!!! hurray!!!
so we can watch it in the Hungarian tv in Hungarian :)
and I can spread the word to everyone to watch it.
I recorded it to vhs too.
Love this film! Love August Schellenberg!!! :) He was so fantastic!!!
I have to add to this film, that as I know Ohiyesa was not there at the battle of Little Big Horn!!! so still have to watch carefully.
Okay okay I should watch it as a normal person, but I cannot.
I saw it not the first time, and I watched the weapons and the militia and the historical facts again. Although this time I cried when they showed the massacre.
Anyone have to see this film, so if you can, watch it.
Or just read the book. I think it is very very important to know the real
facts about these events.
Today I plan to see August's other film, the Black Robe, which is about the catholic missions too. Another great film with HIM, and it is a book adaptation which was written after real facts, because the author did some research about the topic as I learned.
Maybe in Germany they will show BMHAWK too, I keep the fingers crossed for it.
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newnativspirit - 12.05.2008, 18:47
I doubt that they will show it on German TV for we don´t have an HBO channel and other channels won´t be interested in it ... maybe Pay TV will show it, because they also showed Into the West, but then this was a Spielberg Production. Another reason why I think that they won´t show BMHAWK on German TV is that it´s already available on DVD ...
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2007 Festival of Plays at Native Voices at the Autry - gepostet von Erica Fox am Freitag 16.11.2007
News - gepostet von newnativspirit am Dienstag 13.11.2007
Nathaniel Arcand - gepostet von newnativspirit am Dienstag 01.08.2006
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