I will be gone from June 11-27th.

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    Re: I will be gone from June 11-27th.

    pamplemousse - 10.06.2005, 07:21

    I will be gone from June 11-27th.
    Just so everyone knows I'm not abandoning the forum. I'm going to Canada!



    Re: I will be gone from June 11-27th.

    S916Dave - 10.06.2005, 07:30


    Canada?

    Why, there is no draft at the moment.



    Re: I will be gone from June 11-27th.

    pamplemousse - 10.06.2005, 08:23


    Oh there's gonna be. I'm a sixteen year old girl and I got a letter from the army asking me to do some kind of officer's training camp. :shock:

    They must be pretty desperate to want ME.

    But to answer your question, this is my second annual trip to my boyfriend's folks' place. He's only in the US for college, so he goes back home during the summer.



    Re: I will be gone from June 11-27th.

    BenDaMan - 10.06.2005, 10:00


    I'll give you $10 to trade places with you :P



    Re: I will be gone from June 11-27th.

    jdpd - 10.06.2005, 10:27


    I'll be gone from 17th-1st <insert happy dance smilie>



    Re: I will be gone from June 11-27th.

    ichabod00x - 10.06.2005, 15:10


    The US recently signed a treaty with Canada that no one of draft age could move to Canada.



    Re: I will be gone from June 11-27th.

    Jenn - 10.06.2005, 15:21


    Have a great time! Your wisdom will be missed. :P



    Re: I will be gone from June 11-27th.

    d503 - 10.06.2005, 15:30


    wait no one. aren't girls/women what have you still ineliligible. cause if they aren't sure as hell not moving back to the US anytime soon. shit i might head out of korea as there is lots of us army running about.



    Re: I will be gone from June 11-27th.

    ichabod00x - 10.06.2005, 15:39


    As far as I know, girls have been made eligible.



    Re: I will be gone from June 11-27th.

    d503 - 10.06.2005, 15:40


    Hmm..do they have to register now like the 18 year old boys? Shit I should stay more on top of what is going on inside of the US



    Re: I will be gone from June 11-27th.

    ichabod00x - 10.06.2005, 15:46


    I would think they have to, but I'm not 100% sure they are eligible. Only about 85% sure.



    Re: I will be gone from June 11-27th.

    d503 - 10.06.2005, 15:47


    SHit I will be pissed if I have to register for the draft when I get back to the states...that would make me mad...I will have to start asking around see what people tell me...



    Re: I will be gone from June 11-27th.

    Jenn - 10.06.2005, 21:55


    As far as I know there is NO draft in US for anyone to sign up for.



    Re: I will be gone from June 11-27th.

    pamplemousse - 10.06.2005, 22:17


    Ben, just no. :P

    Ichabod, they're not getting me. I'll serve the jail time if the draft starts up.

    But wait... I'm probably gonna move to Canada or NZ after college. Does this mean I can't move there at all, regardless of whether or not there's a draft going on?

    Have fun jdpd.

    Thanks, Jenn.



    Re: I will be gone from June 11-27th.

    BenDaMan - 10.06.2005, 22:33


    But think about it, it's $10 :wink:

    And if there is a draft, and you choose to go to jail, you can't leave the country anyway, they won't allow you into a country if you have a criminal record.



    Re: I will be gone from June 11-27th.

    spitroaster - 11.06.2005, 03:39


    pampel:
    Have a good time, and if you don't, there's always sunny Ulster!
    8)



    Re: I will be gone from June 11-27th.

    ichabod00x - 11.06.2005, 14:13


    Jenn wrote: As far as I know there is NO draft in US for anyone to sign up for.

    They still make you sign up at 18 "just in case"



    Re: I will be gone from June 11-27th.

    Sander - 11.06.2005, 15:11

    Re: I will be gone from June 11-27th.
    pamplemousse wrote: Just so everyone knows I'm not abandoning the forum. I'm going to Canada!

    Personally, I'd never go to a country where they don't have Internet :-D



    Re: I will be gone from June 11-27th.

    kshobson - 11.06.2005, 20:36




    You can't be fucking serious can you??

    There hasn't been a draft in the U.S. since WWII ... further more since the last draft they found it to be unconstituional to hold one AND there can't be a draft unless Congress approves Im shocked and disgusted that some of you actually thought it was a plausible thing.. I understand the idiots who create controversy about Palpatine and his administration conspiring to bring the draft back.. which is a dumb thing to think because again IT HAS TO GO THROUGH CONGRESS... but some of you thought it was still in exsistance? What the hell..

    Im sorry if im being rude im hung over and have to sit her for another 10 hours and can't be arsed today...



    Re: I will be gone from June 11-27th.

    BenDaMan - 11.06.2005, 20:40


    It's America, what do you want us to think? That everything is all sugar and spice there? And the best country in the world? No, it's a shithole.



    Re: I will be gone from June 11-27th.

    kshobson - 11.06.2005, 22:49


    a shithole but the most powerfull country in the entire world. With that much over everyone else I can't see how we would care to much if people hated us.. they don't have to like us they just have to fear us.


    And I wasn't refering to anyone not living or from the U.S. to know about the whole draft..

    But for someone living in the U.S. its fucking common sense.



    Re: I will be gone from June 11-27th.

    kshobson - 11.06.2005, 22:58


    ichabod00x wrote: Jenn wrote: As far as I know there is NO draft in US for anyone to sign up for.

    They still make you sign up at 18 "just in case"

    They must have lied to you to convince you to register. NO NO NO NO THEY DO NOT MAKE YOU SIGN UP JUST IN CASE OR FORCIBLEY REGISTER WHERE ARE YOU GETTING THIS INFORMATION I WANT TO KNOW RIGHT NOW BECAUSE SOMEONE IS LIEING TO YOU



    Re: I will be gone from June 11-27th.

    BenDaMan - 12.06.2005, 00:36


    "a shithole but the most powerfull country in the entire world. With that much over everyone else I can't see how we would care to much if people hated us.. they don't have to like us they just have to fear us. "

    You are a fucking idiot.



    Re: I will be gone from June 11-27th.

    kshobson - 12.06.2005, 01:43


    Thats fine considering the fact that most of the time I find you to be completely inane and impossible to hold an intelligible conversation with I'm not really offended by your snide vindictive comments.



    Re: I will be gone from June 11-27th.

    BenDaMan - 12.06.2005, 02:01


    That's the thing though, they weren't vindictive, I was calling you an idiot, adding the 'fucking' bit to add extra emphisis.

    You are indeed a fucking idiot because you think the world should fear the US. You realise that China has a larger army then the US, and North Korea has that nutcase, who I feel will not think twice about starting a nuclear war, and you say the world should fear the US? No.



    Re: I will be gone from June 11-27th.

    kshobson - 12.06.2005, 02:40


    Considering the fact that you know I am half korean you would have to assume I would have to had considered that at some point I'm not a jack ass, contrary to what you may like to believe.

    Yes of course China is a threat and they have nukes, and wow so does N.Korea but something tells me that America is still the fucking super power of the world no matter how you want to look at it.

    And that was my point all along. The fear comment was more a smart ass remark of my own beliefs...



    Re: I will be gone from June 11-27th.

    BenDaMan - 12.06.2005, 03:07


    And that's why I think you're an idiot, for your beliefs, how is that hard to understand?

    And America wouldnt have done shit if the other countries didnt join in on their war mongering



    Re: I will be gone from June 11-27th.

    kshobson - 12.06.2005, 03:23


    I refuse to continue this because your damn ludicrous, fighting with you is pointless because you fail to see the point in what I'm trying to say and keep repeating the same idiotic information in a different format over and over hoping your redundancy will win.

    The U.S. is and has been a super power way before the war mongering even came about.. your a fucking idiot if you just started believing otherwise and no matter what asinine comment you post after this im going to ignore it because your a moron.



    Re: I will be gone from June 11-27th.

    BenDaMan - 12.06.2005, 06:22


    Rabbits like to eat turkey burgers.



    Re: I will be gone from June 11-27th.

    BenDaMan - 12.06.2005, 06:26


    "The U.S. is and has been a super power way before the war mongering even came about"

    Yes, and so have the romans, Germany, England, and they all fell as well, sooner or later the US will fall, and they will fall hard, with a country as arrogant as your own, they WILL fall, and it isn't very far away.



    Re: I will be gone from June 11-27th.

    d503 - 12.06.2005, 11:47


    Kh, US men still have to register at 18. As you said the draft has been disbanded, but registration is still going on. And it isn't all that far fetched that congress would reinstate the draft. When I left the us there were a lot of people pushing for its reinstatement.

    don't be so quick to start calling people morons, when you hear rumors about stupid stuff going on in the US it is very hard to not believe them.



    Re: I will be gone from June 11-27th.

    kshobson - 12.06.2005, 20:40


    http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bill.xpd?bill=h108-163

    Your soo right so many people were pushing for the draft! Out of 405 mbrs of the house of represenatives 2 I mean and astounding TWO voted yes for it!!

    We are in deep trouble... I can tell those two sneaky congressman are up to no good! I bet they are manipulating a third and fourth party to join forces with them as we speak!!



    Re: I will be gone from June 11-27th.

    BenDaMan - 12.06.2005, 22:13


    Last time I checked, there's more then 405 people in America...

    Just because THOSE 405 people didnt want it, doesnt mean other people didnt.



    Re: I will be gone from June 11-27th.

    kshobson - 12.06.2005, 22:29


    Dumb fuck, thats why each state votes on and than sends a certain number of reprasantives (depending on the states population) to be house members when something like this happens are fucking represantives come back to are state we vote and than they go and fucking vote yay or nay

    idiot.



    Re: I will be gone from June 11-27th.

    BenDaMan - 12.06.2005, 23:39


    That doesnt mean the majority wanted it though.



    Re: I will be gone from June 11-27th.

    kshobson - 13.06.2005, 00:44


    again I must reinterate how useless it is to try and inform you of facts.

    I feel ashamed for engaging in arguement with you after realizing this the first time.



    Re: I will be gone from June 11-27th.

    BenDaMan - 13.06.2005, 14:58


    Perhaps you don't understand what I meant. In order to understand, all you have to do is use some logic and a little tiny bit of open mindedness.

    Ok, here's how it works. I'll just put down some hypothetical results for states, or however you do it there, for and agaisnt the draft.

    ok, so, 403 representatives voted no, now, the results of the people who are being represtented could have only been the majority by 0.01%. Now lets just say the representitive who voted yes, kets say their results were 99% in favour of the draft.

    Now using that logic, more people would have voted for the draft then those who voted against it.

    Sure, that's probably not how it happened, but just because the representatives voted that way, doesnt mean the majority of people voted that way.



    Re: I will be gone from June 11-27th.

    d503 - 13.06.2005, 16:25


    It is also important to note, that popular opinion and representatives don't always agree. In theory representative should always vote what their constituents want, but in practice there isn't a vote for constituents to illumine the path for the representatives. They are elected because people believe that the representatives ideals coincide with their own. Hence why the US is a republic and not a direct democracy.

    It is a statement of the rising popularity of the idea of reinstating the draft that it actually was presented to congress and voted on.



    Re: I will be gone from June 11-27th.

    ndl - 15.06.2005, 09:18


    ' In theory representative should always vote what their constituents want, but in practice there isn't a vote for constituents to illumine the path for the representatives.'

    You actually have it rather backwards. In theory, representatives should vote for whatever they believe is the right course of action, and constituents vote for a representative with a similar mindset, with the idea behind it being the common man is not well enough informed to run the country effectively. Unfortunately, in practice representatives, in order to ensure their reelection, conduct opinion polls to see how most people want them to vote.



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