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    Re: P-O'd

    mouseears89 - 23.05.2007, 00:15

    P-O'd
    Okay- so when I joined this board I was under the impression that this was a place to talk about Native American Actors and such, and not a place to bash other people's religions. So when did this become a board of hypocrits? I mean, you demeaning Christianity for one persons' comments is like me saying to you- Oh, I hate all Iraqi's because they killed one of my uncles in 9/11! Or, I hate my husband because he is a "white German" decendant, so he must be a follower of Hitler because he was not persecuted and sent to a concentration camp for being Jewish in WWII!!
    How freakin' rediculous can this be??

    I'm glad you locked the topic Anne- but it still doesn't stop the board. I am very offended that you ladies would bash a whole religion for one person's comments. So what if the Pope said something stupid- who hasn't in their lifetime??? I know I have and will probably do it again before I die.

    Christianity is open to those who "want it". There is no forcing of the faith. How can you force someone to believe something if they don't want to? Am I forcing you to believe what I believe and say to you, if you don't then I don't want to be your friend? Uh no, I just say that if you want to know then I'll tell you what I know- and if I don't know- then I'll find out for you. Would you all be saying this about Muslims or Buddahs if they were the dominant religion of the world? Would you be so quick to judge if you were the ones being demeaned?

    I think this topic was totally unappropriate and offensive to those of us who are Christians and thank GOD everyday that we are alive and not laying dead from suicide somewhere in a dark alley or at the bottom of a river, because we were at the end of our ropes and only HE was the one who cared enough to save us. Christianity is about FORGIVENESS, not about being dominant and controlling. MAN is about being dominant and controlling.

    I think everyone on this board is sympathic towards the plyth of the Native American Cultures, and it has very little to do with religion and "being saved by Jesus". Native America is a dying culture- not a dying people. Native Americans have the right to protect their culture and their way of life- whether that be with Jesus or Buddah or neither.



    Re: P-O'd

    newnativspirit - 23.05.2007, 13:03


    You are totally right with what you are saying, but back here in Europe we grew up with Christian history and when you take your time to read about it you can see, that Christians were doing a lof of bad things in the name of God. I don´t want to discuss this again ... I learned too many bad things. It´s also a fact that Christian people forced NA´s to believe in God and to forget about their own beliefs. It still happend in the so called "modern times" in residential schools. Those kids didn´t want to forget about their own culture and history but they got forced !!! With kids it´s so easy: if you tell them long enough what´s wrong and what is right, they will finally believe you and take it for real. And I´m sure you know what happened to those kids when they didn´t obey ...
    I had a good and long talk about this topic with a psychiatrist when I was in Edmonton two years ago. So many people still do suffer from the treatments in residential schools. And all this happened in the name of God! It´s actually one of the main reasons for getting addicted to alcohol and drugs, cause these people don´t know what they are. They got raised like Whites, therefore there own people don´t accept them. And they don´t know enough about their own culture to still be Native American! Ain´t this sad? I met a lot of NA people (adults) who are still learning about their own culture - they are trying to catch up with it! And there are not that much "teachers" anymore ... As I said, I had a long and good talk with this psychiatrist.



    Re: P-O'd

    eddiefever - 23.05.2007, 15:34


    i ahd written a whole post already this morning
    but didn't want to post it before i showed it to several ppl ,to make sure it's not offensive
    cause this topic is a hard topic ,ppl can get hurt really easy with this

    i do have to say i felt a bit attacked when i read No Comment ,cause eventhough i'm not a Christian ,i do believe in God ,His Word
    it is who i am ,and i wouldn't be alive if i didn't have my Faith
    later on i realized i shouldn't be offended ,cause there are thousands of ppl who don't believe the same thing as me ,and thousands of ppl who have been hurt by wrong doings by ppl who did it cause their"religion "told" them to
    but i don't wnat to get into that cause that's a hard topic as wel :?
    ( sorry if i repeated myself in the underlined post ,but like i said i wrote that one already this morning)


    yes Mouseears
    all ppl make mistakes (even the Pope)
    that's why we are humans
    in this world we learn from our mistakes and from the mistakes of others
    so i hope all this Religioin talk won't turn out wrong
    i didn't reply to the No Comment thread ,cause i didn't wnat things to get worse
    i may not be a Christian ,but i do believe in God & Jesus
    and like Mouseears has said
    God saved me from drowning ,from dying
    everyone is entitled to believe what they believe ,and find strenght ,love and Faith in their own way
    i have found it in believing in Trinity
    and i love to talk about it
    i know i don't talk about my religion much on thsi board c,ause i know i can be a bit to exiting when i speak about it
    and because i know ppl in my life who speak in a controling and pushy way about God
    that's why i never spoke much about it on here
    cause i don't want to be seen as somone like that & cause i know some of you don't like to hear about it
    and i respect that
    in a way, i learned from their actions ,cause i've seen the reactions they got from others

    everyone is entitled to talk about their believes as long as you are respectfull to other ppl & their believes
    i can't speak the Popes words right ,cause it's his own action ,not of all the Christians

    Christians ,Catholics ,Muslims & other religions believe their religion is the One True Religion , whenever words are said with wrong words i try to think like this: they are trying to help us ,cause they care for us
    they want us to feel the love ,light joyce and power of their God and feel the same happyness as they do
    and eventhough i may already feel the happyness that my God & religion gives me ,at least they care about us



    Re: P-O'd

    Idril - 23.05.2007, 16:10


    This is a very sticky topic for everyone. Everyone here is right, but I'm sure everyone here, who said something a bout a realigion that may have sound bad or offending didn't mean it to sound offending. Every religion has good and bad sides.
    One bad thing about internet is, that we can't hear what the others we're writing with say. So a lot of things can be missunderstood. I don't want to say that we missunderstand each other all the time. But talking about religion is always hard. Like I said, it's a sticky topic.

    It's good you all said what you think about this thread, but please don't let us break out a fight. This board here is a fun-place, not hating-place. :wink:



    Re: P-O'd

    eddiefever - 23.05.2007, 18:58


    exactly Idril
    that is also the reason why i let my post be check by individual ppl
    before posting it
    cause i didn't want it to become worse than it already was
    and id efinatly want this to stay a fun place
    the only reason i made my post is that i felt like speaking up ,show my side ,cause everyone else had done the same

    we all love Natives and their culture ( and their movies)
    and we all agree that what's been happend in the Great War is soo wrong and what the Pope said was at least came out in a very wrong way
    the only thing i ahve to say for nwo is that ,in my opinion having topics liekr eligion isn't good
    it always causes drama ,cause everyone has their own religion and their own reasons for having that religion
    and the reason why we are all here ,is to show our interrests and support for Native culture and actors

    Sincerely ,
    miss



    Re: P-O'd

    mouseears89 - 24.05.2007, 01:58


    Eddiefever- you are very polite in saying what I wanted to get across. I don't want this board to be boring or un-fun, I just wanted to voice my opinion on what I felt was an offense to Christians. I understand that some people don't want to hear about God or religion- and that's fine. I'm not trying to push it down anyones throat. I just want the respect I give others by keeping religion off this board so we don't offend each other. I have no problem giving someone their freedom to believe in one thing or another because I too have felt the pressures of "conform or else" from people. I just had to speak up about the subject because I wanted everyone to know that we don't all think the same about all the subjects- so please be respectful in your comments and considerate of how others may view them.

    Let's all have a cup of herbal tea and relax. :wink:



    Re: P-O'd

    evenstar - 24.05.2007, 05:39


    I think a lot of what was said in the other post was probably misinterpreted. I know that my own comments were only directed towards certain individuals, not entire groups. I would certainly never condemn an entire group based on the actions of a few. After all, I do believe in God, I just have a different way of honoring it.

    I think it would be nice to be able to discuss any subject here on the board, but if it is going to cause offense then I agree that it is probably best left alone.

    Now, i'm off to make my cup of tea! :)



    Re: P-O'd

    eddiefever - 24.05.2007, 11:02


    yeah Mouseears
    i understand you completely ,cause i feel the same way
    and ín a way it's good that this happend ,cause now we know
    this is a sticky topic
    and it's good we all showed our feelings about it and not run from it
    cause we've known each other for so long and always been good palls ( wel besides of that 1 little misunderstanding :? )
    and if i may say it : everyone wants to keep it a fun and loving board
    and it's a bit sad that we can't discuss everything on this board ,but than again ,it all has to do with WORDS !!
    words are powerfull ,it can lift you up ,or it can strike you down !!
    i know you girls didn't mean it in a bad way ,but some words did seem that way
    and that's all because your behind a PC ,Like IDRIL said ,when your talking to someone in person it's diffwerent ,you can hear it in the tone of voice ,the glimmering in their eyes and even when you dont'see it than
    the other perosn can always explain it all to you in whatever time they need to make clear they dont'mean it in a bad way
    butw e are all behind our PC's and have to keep in mind that it's harder to "see" ppl's ententions
    so i hope none of us are still upset
    and i'm of now ,the water is boiling for my Cup of Tea :D :wink:

    sorry this post is again sooooo long :?
    ( i hate long posts ,cause i want to learn to make short ones :lol: )



    Re: P-O'd

    mouseears89 - 24.05.2007, 22:24


    Glad to hear that everyone seems to be getting on the same page with not wanting to ruin a good thing. I do have lots of fun here- you girls are a crazy bunch!! And I love it!!

    Just an fyi- I don't like to talk politics either with people. It's also a very sticky topic and just like religion- everyone has their own opinion and it could be perceived two ways when not (or even so) in front of you.

    Enjoy the long weekend if you have one. If not- get the water boiling and think of being someplace wonderful. TTFN 8)



    Re: P-O'd

    emerald - 25.05.2007, 15:01


    mouseears89 wrote: Eddiefever- you are very polite in saying what I wanted to get across. I don't want this board to be boring or un-fun, I just wanted to voice my opinion on what I felt was an offense to Christians. I understand that some people don't want to hear about God or religion- and that's fine. I'm not trying to push it down anyones throat. I just want the respect I give others by keeping religion off this board so we don't offend each other. I have no problem giving someone their freedom to believe in one thing or another because I too have felt the pressures of "conform or else" from people. I just had to speak up about the subject because I wanted everyone to know that we don't all think the same about all the subjects- so please be respectful in your comments and considerate of how others may view them.

    Let's all have a cup of herbal tea and relax. :wink:

    Agreed 110%!!



    Re: P-O'd

    eddiefever - 25.05.2007, 21:33


    mouseears89 wrote: Glad to hear that everyone seems to be getting on the same page with not wanting to ruin a good thing. I do have lots of fun here- you girls are a crazy bunch!! And I love it!!

    Just an fyi- I don't like to talk politics either with people. It's also a very sticky topic and just like religion- everyone has their own opinion and it could be perceived two ways when not (or even so) in front of you.

    Enjoy the long weekend if you have one. If not- get the water boiling and think of being someplace wonderful. TTFN 8)

    :lol: :lol:
    agree with ya on the Politics as wel



    Re: P-O'd

    Idril - 26.05.2007, 17:21


    mouseears89 wrote: Eddiefever- you are very polite in saying what I wanted to get across. I don't want this board to be boring or un-fun, I just wanted to voice my opinion on what I felt was an offense to Christians. I understand that some people don't want to hear about God or religion- and that's fine. I'm not trying to push it down anyones throat. I just want the respect I give others by keeping religion off this board so we don't offend each other. I have no problem giving someone their freedom to believe in one thing or another because I too have felt the pressures of "conform or else" from people. I just had to speak up about the subject because I wanted everyone to know that we don't all think the same about all the subjects- so please be respectful in your comments and considerate of how others may view them.

    Let's all have a cup of herbal tea and relax. :wink:

    hm, could I get some fruit tea? :oops: :lol:

    *big familyhug* I'm glad this "discussin" found a good ending. :D



    Re: P-O'd

    eddiefever - 27.05.2007, 19:22


    ofcourse you can have fruit tea

    me 2 ,little sister



    Re: P-O'd

    Idril - 27.05.2007, 19:56


    thx :wink:



    Re: P-O'd

    eddiefever - 28.05.2007, 19:19


    HUGS !! :D



    Re: P-O'd

    Idril - 29.05.2007, 16:47


    awwwwww *big hug back* :D



    Re: P-O'd

    mouseears89 - 30.05.2007, 03:57


    N N S Hugfest '07 has officially begun.

    **HUG** You're It!!



    Re: P-O'd

    Idril - 30.05.2007, 15:15


    awwwwww :lol:



    Re: P-O'd

    enelya06 - 30.05.2007, 18:28


    Hug fests sound great - would be wonderful for a big group hug...well how about a big cyber group hug.



    Re: P-O'd

    Idril - 30.05.2007, 18:58


    BIG FAMILY HUG!!!!!! :D :D :D



    Re: P-O'd

    eddiefever - 30.05.2007, 19:13


    *jumps on idril and Enelya and starts hugging them while we all fall on the ground*
    rofl



    Re: P-O'd

    enelya06 - 30.05.2007, 19:44


    wish there was a hugging icon on here.......anne and the rest jump right in...



    Re: P-O'd

    newnativspirit - 30.05.2007, 20:02


    outch - I hit my knee on Idril´s head ... :lol:



    Re: P-O'd

    enelya06 - 30.05.2007, 20:12


    hey we'd better be careful - don't want to knock anyone out :lol:



    Re: P-O'd

    eddiefever - 30.05.2007, 22:48


    rofl
    :lol: :lol:
    yeha ,or soem fo us even could end up in the hospital :shock:
    :wink:



    Re: P-O'd

    evenstar - 31.05.2007, 03:19


    I'll join in the hug, but better be careful that I don't crush you all! *lol*



    Re: P-O'd

    mouseears89 - 01.06.2007, 06:07


    eddiefever wrote: rofl
    :lol: :lol:
    yeha ,or soem fo us even could end up in the hospital :shock:
    :wink:

    "So," says the doctor puzzled, "how did this happen exactly?"

    "Well doc, I was in a hugfest with my cyber friends when all of a sudden..."

    :lol: :lol: :lol:

    I hope you all have a wonderful day and enjoy your weekends. :wink:



    Re: P-O'd

    eddiefever - 01.06.2007, 11:03


    :lol: :lol:
    hahaha ,this is To funny
    :lol: :lol: *rofl*
    now i got laughcramps



    Re: P-O'd

    newnativspirit - 01.06.2007, 14:44


    LOL after that one for sure !!! :lol: :lol: :lol:



    Re: P-O'd

    enelya06 - 01.06.2007, 15:12


    yeppers I could see one of us trying to explain how we got hurt.



    Re: P-O'd

    Idril - 03.06.2007, 14:57


    newnativspirit wrote: outch - I hit my knee on Idril´s head ... :lol:

    thank godness my head is pretty hard :lol:



    Re: P-O'd

    newnativspirit - 03.06.2007, 17:24


    hey, what about my knee !!! Who cares about your head :twisted: ?



    Re: P-O'd

    Idril - 03.06.2007, 18:55


    hm... I do :roll: Who will be the little devil when my head is broken? :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:



    Re: P-O'd

    mouseears89 - 03.06.2007, 21:50


    :lol: :lol: :lol: Try to take care of each other!! :lol: :lol: :lol:



    Re: P-O'd

    eddiefever - 04.06.2007, 09:27


    #OMG#
    :lol: :lol:
    you 2 are both :twisted:
    rofl



    Re: P-O'd

    newnativspirit - 04.06.2007, 11:28


    Seriously, who cares about Idril´s head, when my knee is broken? :twisted: btw. you can´t break this "Dickschädel" (pighead)anyway. :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:



    Re: P-O'd

    eddiefever - 04.06.2007, 20:12


    rofl
    :lol: :lol: :lol:
    ooh stop it
    your giving me laughing cramps
    Help
    can someone can an ambulance for me :wink:



    Re: P-O'd

    enelya06 - 04.06.2007, 20:24


    hey I'm way ahead of you eddie........

    I'm starting to think I ate way too much at lunch time I don't feel well at all :roll: may go home and go straight to bed.



    Re: P-O'd

    eddiefever - 04.06.2007, 20:35


    aawww
    HUGS !!!
    :D



    Re: P-O'd

    evenstar - 05.06.2007, 03:42


    Oh dear, did everyone survive the weekend?

    We had a long one and today is my first day back in the office *sigh*



    Re: P-O'd

    newnativspirit - 05.06.2007, 10:10


    we have another holiday on Thursday. A lot of people do take a day off on Friday then, so they have an extra long week-end. Not me! I´ll have to work on Friday and Saturday (Sunday off, cause of my girl´s b-day). Had to see my doctor this morning and he wanted to write me a certificate that I won´t have to work this upcoming week-end, but I already had too many and I don´t dare to turn it in ... well, I need to go to my doctor´s on Friday morning and depending on what my blood results will be like, I will probably have to stay home, but I really want/need to go to work ...



    Re: P-O'd

    enelya06 - 05.06.2007, 13:10


    I survived the weekend but it's been a quiet week here. We'll have another holiday on July 4. My hours have been cut way back at JCP which I like. There is just so much to do. (at home) not at work.



    Re: P-O'd

    Idril - 05.06.2007, 15:43


    newnativspirit wrote: Seriously, who cares about Idril´s head, when my knee is broken? :twisted: btw. you can´t break this "Dickschädel" (pighead)anyway. :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:

    awwww that hurt :lol:



    Re: P-O'd

    evenstar - 06.06.2007, 08:36


    newnativspirit wrote: we have another holiday on Thursday. A lot of people do take a day off on Friday then, so they have an extra long week-end. Not me! I´ll have to work on Friday and Saturday (Sunday off, cause of my girl´s b-day). Had to see my doctor this morning and he wanted to write me a certificate that I won´t have to work this upcoming week-end, but I already had too many and I don´t dare to turn it in ... well, I need to go to my doctor´s on Friday morning and depending on what my blood results will be like, I will probably have to stay home, but I really want/need to go to work ...

    Are you still ill then? That's not good. Just don't ignore when you body is telling you it needs a break...



    Re: P-O'd

    newnativspirit - 06.06.2007, 08:51


    Not really ill - just have this acute pain in my right side for a while now and didn´t know where it comes from (damn, I´m getting old). Well, I had a feeling like it is a pulled muscle, cause the pain started after I had to carry something real heavy at work weeks ago. I ignored it, but now I wanted the doctor to check on it. I had an ultrascreening to make sure that there is nothing else wrong with me and so the doctor also said it´s the muscle and that I shouldn´t be carrying anything heavy and to take it easy ... damn, a pulled muscle can take weeks to cure.



    Re: P-O'd

    Mela - 06.06.2007, 10:08


    What does P-Od means? :?



    Re: P-O'd

    eddiefever - 06.06.2007, 19:17


    good question mela
    Lol



    Re: P-O'd

    evenstar - 07.06.2007, 06:06


    It means "Pissed Off", but I think that part of the topic is over now.



    Re: P-O'd

    eddiefever - 07.06.2007, 17:27


    ooh :lol: :lol: :lol:



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