Verfügbare Informationen zu "Escape Hatch Halifax MZ376, QB-K"
Qualität des Beitrags: Beteiligte Poster: Ivo Wilms - crashsiteslimburg - Lancasterman - Pathfinder - Roy N - MUCKS Forum: - Aero Part Identify Board - aus dem Unterforum: Teile ohne Nummern / Parts without numbers Antworten: 37 Forum gestartet am: Donnerstag 15.02.2007 Sprache: englisch Link zum Originaltopic: Escape Hatch Halifax MZ376, QB-K Letzte Antwort: vor 14 Jahren, 11 Monaten, 17 Tagen, 14 Stunden, 22 Minuten
Alle Beiträge und Antworten zu "Escape Hatch Halifax MZ376, QB-K"
Re: Escape Hatch Halifax MZ376, QB-K
Ivo Wilms - 20.04.2009, 20:37Escape Hatch Halifax MZ376, QB-K
Good day.
Found this escape hatch on H. P. Halifax Mk. III, MZ376, QB-K crashsite but can't find it back on photos. Where on the plane was this hatch located and does anyone have -clear- photos of it?
Much appreciated.
Ivo.
Outer part is (was) covered with triplex. Remains of "parachute exit" text can still be seen:
Near the latch are the remains of text: "push hard(?) & turn to open"
Re: Escape Hatch Halifax MZ376, QB-K
crashsiteslimburg - 21.04.2009, 11:10
Hi Ivo,
could be an insidehatch to get out of the gunturret after rotating it.
Greets from limburg!
CSL.
Re: Escape Hatch Halifax MZ376, QB-K
Ivo Wilms - 21.04.2009, 11:32
Hey CLS,
Haven't thougt of that yet! Would also explain why the outer part is covered with triplex. Thanks a lot!
Groeten terug uit Midden-Limburg. ;)
Ivo.
Re: Escape Hatch Halifax MZ376, QB-K
Lancasterman - 21.04.2009, 16:46
That looks too thick for a gun turret hatch. Wondering if it could be a hatch from the floor aft of the top turret?
Re: Escape Hatch Halifax MZ376, QB-K
Pathfinder - 21.04.2009, 20:11
Here a drawing from the release access door for the tail gunner:
Re: Escape Hatch Halifax MZ376, QB-K
Roy N - 21.04.2009, 21:41
i tend to agree with Lancasterman, it looks like the hatch to the rear of the bomb bay, on the port side.
Hi Ivo, what do you mean "the outer part is covered with triplex? what is triplex? it looks all metal to me.
Regards
Roy
Re: Escape Hatch Halifax MZ376, QB-K
Ivo Wilms - 21.04.2009, 21:47
Roy, the outer part of the hatch, the part with the "Parachute Exit" text written on it, is triplex. Triplex are thin layers of pressed wood. Below the triplex is the normal aluminium.
Re: Escape Hatch Halifax MZ376, QB-K
Lancasterman - 22.04.2009, 00:00
I was thinking this was mroe like the doors in the picture until I saw this picture. The mystery deepens...
Re: Escape Hatch Halifax MZ376, QB-K
Roy N - 22.04.2009, 02:47
Ivo, thanks for the explaination. i understand now.:n108:
i think its what we call plywood over here
Lancasterman wrote: I was thinking this was mroe like the doors in the picture until I saw this picture. The mystery deepens...
ah, i thought you were talking about the one arrowed in the diagram below.
Re: Escape Hatch Halifax MZ376, QB-K
Ivo Wilms - 24.04.2009, 12:59
Roy, plywood it is. I'm sorry.
Re: Escape Hatch Halifax MZ376, QB-K
Roy N - 24.04.2009, 15:57
Ivo Wilms wrote: Roy, plywood it is. I'm sorry.
no need to be sorry, ive learned a new word :n108:
Cheers
Roy
Re: Escape Hatch Halifax MZ376, QB-K
Lancasterman - 27.04.2009, 15:46
I sent the picture to a very knowledgable Halifax person and he said it is not a hatch for the crew as it is too flat and should be curved for the rear fusealge side.
Mystery deepens...?
Re: Escape Hatch Halifax MZ376, QB-K
Pathfinder - 27.04.2009, 17:07
Ivo,
do you have found no part numbers on this hatch ?
On interest are the letter in the part numbers ;)
Regards
Nils
Re: Escape Hatch Halifax MZ376, QB-K
Roy N - 27.04.2009, 17:08
Lancasterman wrote: I sent the picture to a very knowledgable Halifax person and he said it is not a hatch for the crew as it is too flat and should be curved for the rear fusealge side.
Mystery deepens...?
its funny you should say that because it looks me theres only one handle and it appears to be on the outside?.
the mystery does indeed deepen..
Re: Escape Hatch Halifax MZ376, QB-K
Lancasterman - 27.04.2009, 17:44
It is a very strange looking door. I am wondering if it is not halifax?
Re: Escape Hatch Halifax MZ376, QB-K
Ivo Wilms - 27.04.2009, 18:48
I see I forgot to post a picture of the other side. Stupid me. :oops:
There's another handle on the plywood plated side. But this handle is sunken away inside the door instead of poking out like the one you can see in the pictures.
Tomorrow I will post the remaining photos. The hatch is now all cleaned.
So far I didn't find any numbers on it.
Re: Escape Hatch Halifax MZ376, QB-K
Ivo Wilms - 28.04.2009, 13:41
The remaining/cleanup photos. Too bad a few holes fell in it:
Locks which fell out of the hatch:
Re: Escape Hatch Halifax MZ376, QB-K
Pathfinder - 28.04.2009, 17:22
Thanks for the new photos !
I think it is more a service hatch as a emergency hatch.
The two parts on the last two photos looks like from aerial, maybe from tail section...
I´m wondering that no numbers could found. You should found the part numbers on the inner side of the aluminium sheet !
Re: Escape Hatch Halifax MZ376, QB-K
Roy N - 28.04.2009, 17:57
Pathfinder wrote: Thanks for the new photos !
I think it is more a service hatch as a emergency hatch.
The two parts on the last two photos looks like from aerial, maybe from tail section...
I´m wondering that no numbers could found. You should found the part numbers on the inner side of the aluminium sheet !
the problem with that Nils, is the hatch has the words, "parachute exit" written on it. i hadnt noticed this before
Re: Escape Hatch Halifax MZ376, QB-K
Pathfinder - 28.04.2009, 18:16
Thanks Roy,
I had not noticed this before too :roll:
Re: Escape Hatch Halifax MZ376, QB-K
Lancasterman - 29.04.2009, 18:31
Thanks for posting the new pictures. I am trying to find out from a few halifax friends what it might be. The only hatches I know of are the main crew door on the port rear fuselage and the nose and top hatch, neither which look like this.
Re: Escape Hatch Halifax MZ376, QB-K
MUCKS - 29.04.2009, 22:47
Hi All.
Looking at the thickness of the door I would guess that whatever aircraft it came off ,it would be underneath the fuselage as it looks it was designed for stress loadings.Hope this might help to ID.
Regards
Martin
Re: Escape Hatch Halifax MZ376, QB-K
Ivo Wilms - 30.04.2009, 00:17
Really appreciate all the effort. ;)
I've been searching and searching for hours, but without succes until I found this video on Youtube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tY8OMDWqreo
At 2:26 I see something that looks quite simular like this photo I made from the same angle:
Re: Escape Hatch Halifax MZ376, QB-K
Lancasterman - 30.04.2009, 01:45
That does look similiar but the nose hatch is square and your hatch in the pictures looks more triangular with a thin edge on the one side?
Re: Escape Hatch Halifax MZ376, QB-K
Ivo Wilms - 30.04.2009, 12:22
No no no. This hatch is (was) square! It's crushed on one side because of the impact. Both ends have (had) a thinner edge. 100% Sure about this.
Take a look at these photos:
Re: Escape Hatch Halifax MZ376, QB-K
Roy N - 30.04.2009, 20:14
I didnt realise it should be square either, but i can see what you mean now Ivo.
the handle at the base of the hatch in the film also looks the same as yours
Perhaps you have solved your own mystery? :cool:
Re: Escape Hatch Halifax MZ376, QB-K
Ivo Wilms - 30.04.2009, 22:11
Not 100% sure it is this hatch. Mainly because there's no plywood on the hatch in the video... But that can have its reasons. Like they didn't restore it with plywood because of all those people who would walk over it or something like that.
Re: Escape Hatch Halifax MZ376, QB-K
Lancasterman - 03.05.2009, 01:31
A fellow who is quite knowledgable on Halifax aircraft said that this hatch looks like the "joe hole" for SOE Halifax aircraft.
Re: Escape Hatch Halifax MZ376, QB-K
Lancasterman - 05.05.2009, 20:00
Just emaield a friend and sent him the pictures of this hatch he said if it was definately square then it will be the nose escape hatch
Re: Escape Hatch Halifax MZ376, QB-K
Ivo Wilms - 05.05.2009, 21:19
This hatch was 100% sure square. Mystery solved! ;)
Thanks all for helping. Very much appreciated. :n108:
Re: Escape Hatch Halifax MZ376, QB-K
Roy N - 05.05.2009, 21:28
Lancasterman wrote: Just emaield a friend and sent him the pictures of this hatch he said if it was definately square then it will be the nose escape hatch
Yes thats what i think it is.
ive spent some time searching for a photo of the forward hatch and finally found something that could be useful.
i have marked the hatch in red. although its a diagram it looks the same shape to me and the handle is in the same place.
I should mention that i found this diagram on the Flyingzone Publications website and they own the copyright. I would like to thank Bryan Atkinson for their permission to reproduce it here.
i suggest that members have a look at the Flyingzone Publications website.
http://www.flyingzonedirect.com/
they have CD ROMs available for the Halifax B MKIII, Spitfire V and Lancaster.
they contain plenty of photos, diagrams, and other information which i think some members could find useful.
Click on one of the aircraft names on the left and have a look at the screenshots
they are also working on more CDs covering the Hurricane and Mosquito,
which are due to be released this year
Regards
Roy
Re: Escape Hatch Halifax MZ376, QB-K
Ivo Wilms - 05.05.2009, 21:45
Thanks a lot Roy! That's it! :n108:
"push up & turn to open" Is the exact text as on my hatch!
Re: Escape Hatch Halifax MZ376, QB-K
Lancasterman - 05.05.2009, 21:56
Yes that is definately the same hatch then! Well done!
Re: Escape Hatch Halifax MZ376, QB-K
Roy N - 06.05.2009, 01:15
i cant take the credit for this, its been teamwork.
perhaps we should have a group hug? :D
Re: Escape Hatch Halifax MZ376, QB-K
Lancasterman - 06.05.2009, 03:42
Halifax :n97: :n108:
Onto the next mysterious part!!
Re: Escape Hatch Halifax MZ376, QB-K
Ivo Wilms - 06.05.2009, 14:44
How about :n158: instead of a group hug? :D
I think I'm gonna buy that Halifax Mk. III CD! Looks good to me.
Re: Escape Hatch Halifax MZ376, QB-K
MUCKS - 06.05.2009, 23:58
Hi All.
:n108: glad the problem solved and well done Roy :n57: we all must meet up somewhere and have that beer and group hug.
Cheers Martin
Mit folgendem Code, können Sie den Beitrag ganz bequem auf ihrer Homepage verlinken
Weitere Beiträge aus dem Forum - Aero Part Identify Board -
106-71092 Radio Control Plate and Destroyer Switch - gepostet von Paul am Sonntag 08.04.2007
Lonesome Polecat II book - gepostet von Paul am Montag 23.07.2007
WNF - gepostet von WNF am Samstag 26.05.2007
First photos of recovered Merlin XX parts from crash site - gepostet von Pathfinder am Montag 19.01.2009
Unknown USAAF part - gepostet von Paul am Sonntag 18.02.2007
RR Merlin part - gepostet von Planehunter am Sonntag 04.05.2008
Ähnliche Beiträge wie "Escape Hatch Halifax MZ376, QB-K"
Wir suchen noch Bilder für unseren Tuning Shop !!! - gepostet von Cyrus Nighthawk am Donnerstag 01.06.2006
Wer zum Geier ist "NAZI-HITLER"??? - gepostet von Johnny am Donnerstag 29.06.2006
Fluch der Karibik 2 - gepostet von Der Lustige Pete am Donnerstag 10.08.2006