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  • Forum gestartet am: Donnerstag 15.02.2007
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    Re: Rolls Royce aircraft id

    crashsiteslimburg - 19.03.2009, 10:39

    Rolls Royce aircraft id
    Hi All,

    i got this beauty out of sea.
    is it somewhere possible to find out what aircraft and serial
    this belonged to?

    serialnumber of engine is present!

    Many thanks.



    Re: Rolls Royce aircraft id

    Pathfinder - 19.03.2009, 16:40


    I see one data plate on the engine mount.
    Let us know what you can read on the plate.


    Regards
    Nils



    Re: Rolls Royce aircraft id

    crashsiteslimburg - 19.03.2009, 16:43


    Pathfinder wrote: I see one data plate on the engine mount.
    Let us know what you can read on the plate.


    Regards
    Nils

    Hi Nils,

    here you go;



    Re: Rolls Royce aircraft id

    Pathfinder - 19.03.2009, 17:32


    Nice plate :cool:

    All Rolls Royce Merlin engines are "Right Hand Tractor", if you look from the rear to the propellor, the propeller rotated to the right...

    If you need a identification of some parts from this engine, let me know, I have the part list of Merlin XX engines.


    This engine was fitted on some aircrafts (Hurricane, Defiant, Lancaster, Halifax, P-51 ect....)
    If you have details about the crash site, you have a chance to find the type of aircraft. Maybe the serial number from this plate could help too.

    Regards
    Nils



    Re: Rolls Royce aircraft id

    crashsiteslimburg - 20.03.2009, 09:46


    Pathfinder wrote: Nice plate :cool:

    All Rolls Royce Merlin engines are "Right Hand Tractor", if you look from the rear to the propellor, the propeller rotated to the right...

    If you need a identification of some parts from this engine, let me know, I have the part list of Merlin XX engines.


    This engine was fitted on some aircrafts (Hurricane, Defiant, Lancaster, Halifax, P-51 ect....)
    If you have details about the crash site, you have a chance to find the type of aircraft. Maybe the serial number from this plate could help too.

    Regards
    Nils


    Hi Nils, your information i already knew, i want to know how ore
    were i can find out what plane it exact was.
    crashsite is "North Sea" somewhere near "zeeland" (holland)



    Re: Rolls Royce aircraft id

    crashsiteslimburg - 20.03.2009, 16:21


    And some more pic´s of the Engine,






    Re: Rolls Royce aircraft id

    crashsiteslimburg - 26.03.2009, 19:41


    nobody??



    Re: Rolls Royce aircraft id

    crashsiteslimburg - 27.03.2009, 21:10


    Found the courdinates! ------------

    coordinates removed by Mod team



    Re: Rolls Royce aircraft id

    Pathfinder - 27.03.2009, 22:47


    If you have found no data plate with the serial number of this engine, or more other details of this plane, you have no chanche to identify the aircraft ...



    Re: Rolls Royce aircraft id

    Pathfinder - 28.03.2009, 00:29


    I think the best way is when you make a contact to JPAC. They may have details about this wreck.

    Here is the link to JPAC: http://www.jpac.pacom.mil/



    Re: Rolls Royce aircraft id

    Roy N - 28.03.2009, 00:50


    i could be wrong Nils but i think theres a good chance this is a British A/C.
    If this was an American (or Canadian) aircraft wouldnt it have an Allison plate, rather than Rolls Royce? many RAF A/C types used the Merlin but few AAF
    JPAC would only have records of theior own (American) losses.


    crashsiteslimburg,
    you have more chance getting this identified by the plate numbers rather than the coordinants.
    your problem will be that the RAF had a policy of destroying aircraft records when a plane was lost, scrapped or sold.
    i dont think they used a MACR (missing air crew report) system, like the American AAF did



    Re: Rolls Royce aircraft id

    Pathfinder - 28.03.2009, 01:09


    This is correct Roy, but I think one mark of P-51 flown also with a Merlin XX :n169:



    Re: Rolls Royce aircraft id

    MUCKS - 29.03.2009, 23:53


    Hi all.
    Just a small in put,when the RAF go there first batches of P51's from the USA the engine plant was underpowered and the problems of spares so the RAF fitted merlins which increased the overall performance and handling.
    Regards
    Martin



    Re: Rolls Royce aircraft id

    crashsiteslimburg - 30.03.2009, 16:06


    Maybe a pic of one of the exhausts may help??

    ill post one tonight.



    Re: Rolls Royce aircraft id

    Roy N - 30.03.2009, 17:36


    the only reason i think this could be from a British aircraft is because of the number of single
    and multi engined RAF A/C with this power plant
    when compared with a small number of single engined P51s.

    Beaufighter II,
    Defiant II,
    Halifax II and V,
    Hurricane II and IV,
    Lancaster I and III,
    Spitfire III

    i could be wrong but i think the odds are on the side of my suggestion



    Re: Rolls Royce aircraft id

    crashsiteslimburg - 01.04.2009, 13:09


    And here are the pic´s,

    the number is; 02614, hope this helps!









    Re: Rolls Royce aircraft id

    crashsiteslimburg - 08.04.2009, 15:11


    nobody? :roll:



    Re: Rolls Royce aircraft id

    Pathfinder - 08.04.2009, 18:26


    Where do you looking for ?

    The exhaust flange comes from your Merlin XX engine, or not ?
    By the way; Rolls Royce is no aircraft, it´s a manufacture of engines.

    You can try to research the losses of britsh aircrafts in this are, this would be the next step. You can also try to contact the Joint Casualty and Compassionate Centre (JCCC), mybe they could help with the engine number you have on the brass plate.

    http://www.mod.uk/DefenceInternet/AboutDefence/WhatWeDo/Personnel/SPVA/Jccc.htm


    Regards
    Nils



    Re: Rolls Royce aircraft id

    crashsiteslimburg - 08.04.2009, 21:04


    Pathfinder wrote: Where do you looking for ?

    The exhaust flange comes from your Merlin XX engine, or not ?
    By the way; Rolls Royce is no aircraft, it´s a manufacture of engines.

    You can try to research the losses of britsh aircrafts in this are, this would be the next step. You can also try to contact the Joint Casualty and Compassionate Centre (JCCC), mybe they could help with the engine number you have on the brass plate.

    http://www.mod.uk/DefenceInternet/AboutDefence/WhatWeDo/Personnel/SPVA/Jccc.htm


    Regards
    Nils

    Nils bitte, der jenige der nicht weis das RR einen Motor ist und denkt
    das es ein Flugzeug ist hat hier nichts verloren auf dieses Forum!

    mir gehts darum das dieses Rohr vieleicht bei einen Spitfire
    anders ist als bei einen Lanc, deshalf die frage!

    Schöne Grüsse,

    CRASHSITESLIMBURG



    Re: Rolls Royce aircraft id

    Pathfinder - 08.04.2009, 21:26


    Ok, now I know what you mean :cool:

    I just check my Merlin XX part list and have found your number D2614 (it´s a "D" not a "0"):

    "EXHAUST MANIFOLD ASSEMBLY", complete with flange D.2614

    For following aircrafts:

    Spitfire III
    Hurricane II
    Defiant II


    Regards
    Nils



    Re: Rolls Royce aircraft id

    crashsiteslimburg - 08.04.2009, 21:31


    Pathfinder wrote: Ok, now I know what you mean :cool:

    I just check my Merlin XX part list and have found your number D2614 (it´s a "D" not a "0"):

    "EXHAUST MANIFOLD ASSEMBLY", complete with flange D.2614

    For following aircrafts:

    Spitfire III
    Hurricane II
    Defiant II


    Regards

    Nils


    Hi Nils,

    Thanks for the fast info!
    so this means for sure the engine was NOT mounted at a lanc!
    also this increases the search!

    Thanks!



    Re: Rolls Royce aircraft id

    Roy N - 09.04.2009, 00:46


    im sure that exhaust is not from a Lancaster. it looks very different.
    its hard to explain but the Lanc exhaust stub is divided into two parts. two tubes, where yours is only one.
    its a pity the rest is missing because there would have been numbers and stamps on it.
    also the overall shape is distinctive between each type of A/C and would help to identify it.
    i had an exhaust from a merlin engine. i was told it was from the left bank of exhausts of a hurricane because of the shape.

    this is a link to the post about my exhaust
    http://www.iphpbb.com/board/ftopic-81805422nx79380-9.html

    Regards
    Roy



    Re: Rolls Royce aircraft id

    crashsiteslimburg - 09.04.2009, 08:34


    Roy N wrote: im sure that exhaust is not from a Lancaster. it looks very different.
    its hard to explain but the Lanc exhaust stub is divided into two parts. two tubes, where yours is only one.
    its a pity the rest is missing because there would have been numbers and stamps on it.
    also the overall shape is distinctive between each type of A/C and would help to identify it.
    i had an exhaust from a merlin engine. i was told it was from the left bank of exhausts of a hurricane because of the shape.

    this is a link to the post about my exhaust
    http://www.iphpbb.com/board/ftopic-81805422nx79380-9.html

    Regards
    Roy


    Hello Roy.
    Thanks for replying.
    my exhaust is from the right bank of the engine.
    on the left are remains of an exhaust to!
    i will (after cleaning) look for stamps on the entire engine
    that might help?

    Thanks.

    CSL



    Re: Rolls Royce aircraft id

    crashsiteslimburg - 20.05.2009, 19:56


    this info comes directly from RR.
    ----------------------------------------------
    The engine completed build at the Glasgow factory on 3 February 1942 and was despatched on 17 February 1942 as part of Air Ministry Contract
    SB.4601/40
    ----------------------------------------------

    so you guys, anyone has some more info to this?

    thanks!



    Re: Rolls Royce aircraft id

    Michel - 07.09.2009, 22:41


    Hi,

    i can tell you this engine is not from a Lancaster, i have a lancaster engine
    and this engine have a different exhaust,





    i think its from a spitfire or Hurricane

    Michel



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