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    Re: B-17 crashed in Salerno?

    SALERNO1943 - 02.03.2009, 21:50

    B-17 crashed in Salerno?
    First a greeting to all people of this forum.
    We are a research association in Salerno, Italy. We search and collect memorials about Salerno's landing in 9 sept. 1943. Recently we found a USA airplane crash site about 3-5 km south\east Salerno tiown. Do you can help us to identify airplane and his number? Please, if someone can help will be very appreciated.



    “S5?T BOEING 41-990?-1 ALCOA”



    “BOEING 6-82 2”



    “LIFT THE DOT”



    “UNITED-CARR” e “BOSTON MASS.”



    “WA&L” e “B’HAM”



    “W”



    “WITTEK MFG CO CHICAGO USA PAT 2278337 FB-6”









    “33D5233”







    “ALUM BOND PAT PEND. PAT NO 2.215 283 ADEL 26”











    “1911”





    “52580 E”





    “42 G”







    “3-12107”.















    “GENERAL ELECTRIC RELAY SWITCH SPEC. NO X 32278 SYSTEM VOLTAGE 2 ORDER NO. W 035 AC 20267 NP 04585 SCHINECTADY. N.Y. MODEL 3GTR72A1 AMR 200 NO. A2036 M MADE IN U.S.A.”



















    12,7 mm



    Re: B-17 crashed in Salerno?

    Pathfinder - 03.03.2009, 00:04


    Hi Salerno1943,

    welcome to our API-Board !

    I will show here some parts I can indentify:


    "ALCOA" = Alumnimium Corporation of America





    #1 Standard Hose clamp with notice of diameter

    #2 This part should be made of brass and should be from oxygen equipment

    #3 smaller fastener from the flak vest.
    see: http://www.iphpbb.com/board/ftopic-81805422nx79380-25-15.html



    Part number 33D5233 = The letter "D" is the indicator for cowling parts



    This is a part from Browning .50 Caliber Machine Gun
    see here: http://www.iphpbb.com/board/ftopic-81805422nx79380-809.html



    Hose Clamp



    Case from cockpit lamp



    Valve cover:







    This ring looks like as a ring from fuel tank (the next photo show a similar part from Wellington IV fuel tank case)




    This cartridges are exploded because of fire / flames. The percussion cup should be missing. A indicator for fire on the aircraft, or fire after the crash.
    --> PLEASE NOTICE: THE AMMUNITION CAN BE A TYPE OF TRACER !!!

    If you check the date of manufacturing on the cartridges, this can help to research the year of crash !


    Regards
    Nils

    PS. Do you have details about the crew / aircraft ?



    Re: B-17 crashed in Salerno?

    Pathfinder - 03.03.2009, 00:22


    this part should be from water pump



    I´m to fear that the parts you show here, are not enough to can name the type of aircraft. But I think it´s a B-17 or B-24

    (the part number 33D5226, as example, was fixed also on B-17´s)


    Regards
    Nils



    Re: B-17 crashed in Salerno?

    SALERNO1943 - 03.03.2009, 14:10


    Pathfinder wrote: this part should be from water pump



    I´m to fear that the parts you show here, are not enough to can name the type of aircraft. But I think it´s a B-17 or B-24

    (the part number 33D5226, as example, was fixed also on B-17´s)


    Regards
    Nils

    Many thanks for your precious help. Please, if you have other informations send me. The bullets are printed 1942. A eyewitness inform us that crew jump with parachute before crash.

    The airplane crashed in 1942 or 1943. Eyewitness remember august\september 1943.

    I'm sure the airplane is not a B-25 but a B-17. For these reasons:

    1) Fragments marked BOEING

    2) The valve cover that is of a Wright engine R 1820 and not R 2600

    3) The same fragment that came from a B-17G http://www.iphpbb.com/board/ftopic-81805422nx79380-313.html

    4) The plate about Shielded Ignition have printed STUDEBAKER. The Studebaker Corporation in South Bend, Indiana, made many of the Wright Cyclone engines used in the B-17.

    5) Browning machine gun AN.M2 plate http://www.iphpbb.com/board/ftopic-81805422nx79380-809.html This machine gun is more common on B-17 that on B-25.

    6) The bomb shackle is in list of B-17 parts. USAAF, 33D5233, Link Assembly - Bomb Shackle, 04/26/33 http://www.nasm.si.edu/research/arch/findaids/waco/waco_sec_48.html



    Re: B-17 crashed in Salerno?

    Roy N - 03.03.2009, 20:16


    Hi SALERNO1943
    i if all these parts came from one crash site then it has to be a B17 you have found.


    this is a needle bearing. i have a similar one from a merlin engined P51B of the 355th FG.
    i think it fitted on the prop shaft. mine was damaged in the crash

    its possible your one had the same function on the Wright R 1820

    Regards
    Roy



    Re: B-17 crashed in Salerno?

    B17man - 18.07.2009, 14:00


    Definatley B-17 Photo“S5?T BOEING 41-990?-1 ALCOA” Used on the pilot/Copilot seat
    [img][/img]



    Re: B-17 crashed in Salerno?

    raus - 19.07.2009, 23:20


    oi!


    Shot with GR-DVL765 at 2009-07-19


    Shot with u-miniD,Stylus V at 2009-07-19


    Shot with u-miniD,Stylus V at 2009-07-19

    Raus



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