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PostPosted: 23.11.2006, 10:35    Post subject: Help to save nature ! Reply with quote

Find the links and information on Intertribal COUP, Native Energy and Native Wind on www.newnativespirit.de !!!
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PostPosted: 24.11.2006, 12:23    Post subject: Reply with quote

thx for info :wink:
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PostPosted: 25.11.2006, 12:06    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cheers for that! I'll take another look at this when I'm in the office on Monday.
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PostPosted: 26.11.2006, 17:03    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was able to make some of my friends and co-workers really interested in Native Energy projects and I also want to ask for a meeting with my boss and try to make the company Iīm working for to buy green-tags. In a few days the "big boss" will be here, so they can discuss it. Plus I want to call the mayor of a small village near by. They are involved in wind energy and there was an article in our local newspaper that they gonna build an "Indianvillage" for kids. I want to ask the mayor, if they need help, because otherwise it will be one of those "European Indianvillages". Maybe they take me as an advicer and let me help them to get close to the truth. They described the project a little bit and I was like "oh my god, they gonna lie to the people again!" The description of the teepees they want to build shocked me ! If I get to talk to the mayor, Iīll also introduce Intertribal COUP to him.
LOL I want to tell him, that he canīt build up an Indianvillage he would have to be ashamed of, because if I will make some of my friends to come and visit ... just imagine, what they will think, when they will see such a village ... maybe, heīll think of it.
So, there is lots to do for me next week ...
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PostPosted: 26.11.2006, 18:31    Post subject: Reply with quote

omg Geschockt I hope they let you lead the bulding of the indian village... Geschockt
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PostPosted: 27.11.2006, 18:36    Post subject: Reply with quote

evenstar wrote:
Cheers for that! I'll take another look at this when I'm in the office on Monday.


when I get back from lunch I'll take a look at it. I'm still going through stuff from the past 5 days. Geschockt
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PostPosted: 02.12.2006, 16:20    Post subject: Reply with quote

As long as I donīt know how to move single posts, I copied them and put them up here ... I think this is the right place to discuss this

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You know, every time I see a natural disaster on the news like Hurricane Katrina or the Asian tsunamis I always think that nature is getting back at us for everything we have put her through. If anyone isn't worried about global warming after seeing things like that then they certainly should be!
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The problem is you canīt teach the elder people! They canīt really understand ... just like my grandma ... sheīs shocked by the things she can see on TV, but she still lives her life the way she always used to do it. But what WE need to do is to teach our children !!! We are the ones to show them what needs to be changed and of course we will have to learn! The future of our kids depend on us. Itīs not easy to explain global warming to kids, but with a few "games" itīs pretty easy to make them see, that something isnīt going the right way and then you can teach them ... one of the topics of my upcoming workshops for kids. I already thought about some things ... do you guys know "Lars, the little Icebear" ?
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btw. we should discuss this in the thread "save the nature" - right?
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yep, would be better
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Okay ladies- I know you may get mad at me, but I have to voice my opinion on global warming. It's completely blown out of proportion. The earth has only warmed up 0.01 percent of a degree in the last 200 years. They didn't even track the weather until the 1800's- so that is the only data we have to compare it to. The earth naturally goes through cycles of heating and cooling. Why else would the earth have a molten core and solid mass on the surface? These are all just normal cycles that earth has to go through. Rome wasn't built in one day- and neither was the earth.
I do agree with recycling, tree hugging, etc. etc. because I am a mother earth lover. Why else would I plant a garden and raise my own food? We use energy saving lightbulbs, alternative heating sources, and still have a septic tank and well water. So I am doing my part to keep mother earth clean (yes, I even subscribe to the magazine Mother Earth News), but this global warming thing- I have a real problem with. I think it's the news media's way of scaring us so we take our minds off of other more important things- like protecting our neighbors and providing for our families.
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PostPosted: 02.12.2006, 16:39    Post subject: Reply with quote

I want to reply to mouseearsī post:

I think if we talk about global warming is not only about how much the earth warmed up - you are right - thatīs just a regular process. But I think by using the term global warming we mean the specific case of the more general term "climate change". Itīs the observed increase in the average temperature of the Earth's atmosphere and oceans in recent decades. An increase in global temperatures can in turn cause other changes, including a rising sea level and the frequency and intensity of extreme weather events, such as floods, droughts, heat waves, hurricanes, and tornados is increasing as well. There are human and non-human causes for the global warming. Just think of all the CO2 in the atmosphere which warms the Earth's surface and leads to melting of ice near the poles.

I could go on and on and on ... itīs pretty complex. And Iīm really afraid of the future, if we donīt start to change things and talk about the problem. I donīt think that the media wants to scare us - and who says that we canīt take care of our friends, family, neighbours etc. and of mother earth at the same time?

That was a good point mouseear - thank you!
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PostPosted: 03.12.2006, 18:06    Post subject: Reply with quote

I agree with you, Anne. Couldn't have said it better :wink:
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PostPosted: 04.12.2006, 02:35    Post subject: Reply with quote

Anne, I totally agree with what you said about older people not wanting to know about global warming! I have the same problem trying to get my mother to listen, but you are right about it being more important to teach the children!

Mouse, have you seen the Al Gore documentary, "An Inconvient Truth". This should address some of your concerns about how serious global warming is. The planet does go through regular life cycles, but the recent temperature changes aren't consistent, and that is what worries me. Can we really convince ourselves that the huge amounts of CO2 that we're pouring into the atmosphere isn't having an impact? If you're in any doubt, just think about all of the natural disasters that have been taking place around the world in recent times.

I really don't think that this is a scare tactic from the media. What would they have to gain from it anyway? I actually think that the reverse is true. For years they have been trying to deny that climate change is a serious problem, and it's only now that they are (reluctantly) starting to do something about it!

Anne, I think that one of the less considered issues in the global warming debate is the effect that deforestation has on global temperatures. After all, the less trees we have to soak up all of the CO2 that humans are emitting means more of it that goes into the atmosphere!
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PostPosted: 04.12.2006, 15:30    Post subject: Reply with quote

Idril wrote:
I agree with you, Anne. Couldn't have said it better :wink:


I agree too
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PostPosted: 04.12.2006, 19:03    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Anne, I totally agree with what you said about older people not wanting to know about global warming! I have the same problem trying to get my mother to listen, but you are right about it being more important to teach the children!

Mouse, have you seen the Al Gore documentary, "An Inconvient Truth". This should address some of your concerns about how serious global warming is. The planet does go through regular life cycles, but the recent temperature changes aren't consistent, and that is what worries me. Can we really convince ourselves that the huge amounts of CO2 that we're pouring into the atmosphere isn't having an impact? If you're in any doubt, just think about all of the natural disasters that have been taking place around the world in recent times.

I really don't think that this is a scare tactic from the media. What would they have to gain from it anyway? I actually think that the reverse is true. For years they have been trying to deny that climate change is a serious problem, and it's only now that they are (reluctantly) starting to do something about it!

Anne, I think that one of the less considered issues in the global warming debate is the effect that deforestation has on global temperatures. After all, the less trees we have to soak up all of the CO2 that humans are emitting means more of it that goes into the atmosphere!


If it was only CO2... There are so many other chemicals comming into the air. Like methan (this is the german name, I haven't found an english translation, I hope it's not too bad) or older things like FCKW.
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PostPosted: 04.12.2006, 19:57    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Anne, I totally agree with what you said about older people not wanting to know about global warming! I have the same problem trying to get my mother to listen, but you are right about it being more important to teach the children!

Mouse, have you seen the Al Gore documentary, "An Inconvient Truth". This should address some of your concerns about how serious global warming is. The planet does go through regular life cycles, but the recent temperature changes aren't consistent, and that is what worries me. Can we really convince ourselves that the huge amounts of CO2 that we're pouring into the atmosphere isn't having an impact? If you're in any doubt, just think about all of the natural disasters that have been taking place around the world in recent times.

I really don't think that this is a scare tactic from the media. What would they have to gain from it anyway? I actually think that the reverse is true. For years they have been trying to deny that climate change is a serious problem, and it's only now that they are (reluctantly) starting to do something about it!

Anne, I think that one of the less considered issues in the global warming debate is the effect that deforestation has on global temperatures. After all, the less trees we have to soak up all of the CO2 that humans are emitting means more of it that goes into the atmosphere!


If it was only CO2... There are so many other chemicals comming into the air. Like methan (this is the german name, I haven't found an english translation, I hope it's not too bad) or older things like FCKW.


I think the word methan is the english translation too only I think the english methan has a few more letters in it. I was watching a show the other night on nature and natural diseasters - they talked about the ice caps slowly melting and sunamies (sorry can't spell it either)
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PostPosted: 04.12.2006, 20:04    Post subject: Reply with quote

yeah. The ubs are melting, because the heat the human produce can't leave the world the way it should, because there are so many CO2-clouds.

And the word is Tsunami. You just forgot the T :wink:
But the problem aren't only the tsunamies. There are much more tornados, even here in Germany, where they are "not at home".
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Idril wrote:
yeah. The ubs are melting, because the heat the human produce can't leave the world the way it should, because there are so many CO2-clouds.

And the word is Tsunami. You just forgot the T :wink:
But the problem aren't only the tsunamies. There are much more tornados, even here in Germany, where they are "not at home".


yep toronados, fires, many things contribute to the warming - also all the emissions from the automobiles and factories.
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