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enelya06 · Posted: 12.02.2008, 16:04 Post subject:

Great! I'm still at home, had to go out and scrape ice off the cars. they have us on 2 hour delay - provided some of us can even get in. I got some good photos I hope. It's supposed to turn to rain and wash all of this away. If I can get in I will if not my boss told me not to worry about it. I probably should go out and shut my car off - man the ice.
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newnativspirit · Posted: 12.02.2008, 19:28 Post subject:

We already have spring weather ... on TV they said that we can expect a loooooooooooooooooong and nice spring season thanks global warming! We only had 2 days of snow and not enough freezing days this winter ... this is not good for the nature ... I wonder if we will have a warm summer at least - last year we had too much rain and it was way too cold for summer time ...
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Idril · Gender: Joined: 06 Aug 2006 Posts: 3950 Location: Germany

It's so warm here. I run around in a T-Shirt half of the day, because it's too hot to do my training in a pullover. But I'm still waiting for snow Weinen

I fear I wont have some this winter Weinen

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newnativspirit · Posted: 12.02.2008, 20:52 Post subject:

CLIMATE CHANGE !
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Idril · Gender: Joined: 06 Aug 2006 Posts: 3950 Location: Germany

Not only. It's not that uncommong to have three or for winters in a row without - well - real winters.
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newnativspirit · Posted: 13.02.2008, 10:52 Post subject:

maybe it´s because you are so much younger than I am ... LOL ... but when I was a little kid we used to have tons of snow every year - even a white Christmas !!!!
Daniel is your age and if I remember it right he was lucky to have some snow winters when he was a little kid as well, but it never lasted long ! The last time we had snow for Christmas was back in 2001 I guess ...
Climate change doesn´t happen for the past 5 years - it´s already happening for a little while longer - lol - so if one can remember wonderful white winters and has to deal with our "warm" winters today, one can talk about climate change, young girl. :wink:
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Idril · Gender: Joined: 06 Aug 2006 Posts: 3950 Location: Germany

But you also have to think about the area you live in. If I remember it right my mum (from south-germany) had alsways more snow than my dad (from north-germany). It's true that climate change has it's effect on everything, but not everything is the climate change's fault.
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newnativspirit · Posted: 13.02.2008, 18:10 Post subject:

I´m talking about the area I live in ... when I talk about having lots of snow when I was a kid, I talk about the same area I live today and so I see how it changed ... and this is in fact a climate change thing. I know it, because a man living here in my town collected all the dates from the past 100 years and together with farmers and forest rangers they did studies to find out how the weather changed here in our area - like finding out about rain and dryness periods and if it comes only every 10 years (for example) or if one can talk about a durable change of the climate in our area ... and that´s what it is ...

It´s a fact that the eart is warming up like 2 degrees or something like that every year - caused by the rotation and some other things ... this has nothing to do with the climate, but climate change is a big threat and we all can see the signs !!! There´s always been a climate change since the earth is excisting, but we advanced it in the past years !!!
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Idril · Gender: Joined: 06 Aug 2006 Posts: 3950 Location: Germany

I'm not trying to fight with you, just to make that clear :wink:

It's just that - as far as I know - there yurely is climate change, but everything that happens today people say it was the climate change and that's not always true. Climate change always happened. Sometimes caused by catastrophes, sometimes climate changed more slowly. We can make it more slowly, but we can't stop it. That's what I think. That doesn't mean we should go on destroying everything. It just means we should be more careful, but accept, that we can't stop the climate change.
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newnativspirit · Posted: 14.02.2008, 11:07 Post subject:

I´m not fighting with you :wink: and you are right too, but we need to see the signs and for me the missing snow is a sign.

I agree with you that there´s always been a climate change - that´s what I meant by saying that our planet is constantly warming up ... but with all the air pollution we really supported the climate change.

Hey, what do you think where all these weather proverbs are coming from - weather situations can repeat every whatever years ... but you have to admit that the weather isn´t like it should be ... we just need to be aware of the fact that human beings can influence it in some way ...

Do you agree?

I´m the last one to fight ... Sehr glücklich

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Idril · Gender: Joined: 06 Aug 2006 Posts: 3950 Location: Germany

I agree on that. I think I missunderstood you a bit Verlegen

Sorry.
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newnativspirit · Posted: 14.02.2008, 11:33 Post subject:

no problem

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Liadan · Posted: 14.02.2008, 11:52 Post subject:

ok.. i'll have to say something about that. this semester we had Geography at university and talked about this. I don't believe that humans are responsible for the warming of the earth. It's always been there (My professor says that we live in an intermission between two iceages and that we still have 15°c UNDER the average temperatures for these intermissions)
But humans are responsible for all the CO2 in the athmosphere. and that's something we can't calculate which affects it has on our planet. So we must be aware of the CO2 and not only climate.
But it's true.. lots of older people told me that in former times winter was real winter abd spring took much longer.

Did you know that scientists found some submontane lakes under Antarctica? These lakes are cut from the rest of the world since millions of years. Imagine what animals could still live there. They didn't break through to the lakes yet because they don't want to contaminate it.
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newnativspirit · Posted: 14.02.2008, 12:07 Post subject:

... and they should leave the lakes where they are! Just imagine what kind of strange world this must be!
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Liadan · Posted: 14.02.2008, 12:47 Post subject:

yep.. but I'm really curious about it... maybe they develop something that enables us to see whats inside the lakes without contaminating them - or us Smilie

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