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pamplemousse Petty Officer 3rd Class

Joined: 21 May 2005 Posts: 277 Location: Indiana, USA
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Posted: 21.05.2005, 04:34 Post subject: Star Wars and Taoism |
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I was just thinking about this today. I just watched Episode three, and there are so many parallels that I'm pretty sure Lucas read up at least a bit on Taoism when creating the Jedi.
There's the obvious Tao/Force parallel everyone points out, but then there's the apprenticeship, and training of esoteric powers that Taoist immortals took on in the stories surrounding them, including the fact that it is revealed Qui-Gon mastered immortality (not a huge plot point, don't hit me).
There's a temple where all teachers and their apprentices take refuge, much like a monastary. The people within have the same attitude as the immortals tend to take on in their tales.
And if you look at Yoda, I think some obvious parallels to Lao Tzu can be made. He's the strongest, the wisest, and a little man with greying hair and a quiet but commanding presence. He doesn't speak as much as the other characters, but when he does, it is always something worth listening to.
The philosophy is pretty much present only in references to the force, but there's a lot of allusions to religious Taoism. _________________ I wish I had a longer name. It would make signatures so much more fun. |
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ndl Petty Officer 2nd Class

Joined: 21 May 2005 Posts: 393 Location: Jersey, bitch.
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Posted: 21.05.2005, 04:41 Post subject: |
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| Most of star wars (Republic era especially) is straight from eastern culture, not just the Taoism thing. Clothing, building design, the whole lot. |
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pamplemousse Petty Officer 3rd Class

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Posted: 21.05.2005, 04:42 Post subject: |
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Yeah, the clothing definitely has it... what of the architecture though? _________________ I wish I had a longer name. It would make signatures so much more fun. |
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ndl Petty Officer 2nd Class

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Posted: 21.05.2005, 04:47 Post subject: |
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| The architechture strikes me as being near east inspired. |
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ndl Petty Officer 2nd Class

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Posted: 21.05.2005, 04:49 Post subject: |
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| Although, the skyscraper type stuff is from modern oriental cities. |
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pamplemousse Petty Officer 3rd Class

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Posted: 21.05.2005, 04:49 Post subject: |
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Interesting. I'll have to keep an eye out for that. _________________ I wish I had a longer name. It would make signatures so much more fun. |
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Unamused Crewman Recruit

Joined: 21 May 2005 Posts: 32 Location: Australia
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Posted: 21.05.2005, 04:50 Post subject: |
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| I'm going to see the last SW during the weekend sometime ... |
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BenDaMan Chief Petty Officer

Joined: 25 May 2005 Posts: 1161 Location: Albury, Australia
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Posted: 25.05.2005, 17:55 Post subject: |
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"including the fact that it is revealed Qui-Gon mastered immortality (not a huge plot point, don't hit me)."
It's a pretty prominent plot point in 4, 5 and 6 though. I was disapointed when they didnt explain further with that aspect of the storyline. Same wite Boba Fett, doesnt really explain him following in his fathers footsteps. _________________ The best way to screw a sheep is take it to the edge of a cliff. They push back harder. |
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pamplemousse Petty Officer 3rd Class

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Posted: 25.05.2005, 23:33 Post subject: |
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When does Qui-Gon show up in 4,5,6 outside of that last shot with the spirit Jedi looking at Luke? _________________ I wish I had a longer name. It would make signatures so much more fun. |
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BenDaMan Chief Petty Officer

Joined: 25 May 2005 Posts: 1161 Location: Albury, Australia
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Posted: 26.05.2005, 11:49 Post subject: |
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It doesnt show Gui Gon, but it shows the Obi Wan, Yoda and Anakin, so while you don't see Qui Gon, it's still prominant. _________________ The best way to screw a sheep is take it to the edge of a cliff. They push back harder. |
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pamplemousse Petty Officer 3rd Class

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Posted: 26.05.2005, 14:51 Post subject: |
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How's it prominent? I think they were ghosts... _________________ I wish I had a longer name. It would make signatures so much more fun. |
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BenDaMan Chief Petty Officer

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Posted: 26.05.2005, 15:00 Post subject: |
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They were and they werent. They were projecting themselves by using the force. Immortality. _________________ The best way to screw a sheep is take it to the edge of a cliff. They push back harder. |
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ndl Petty Officer 2nd Class

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Posted: 27.05.2005, 03:01 Post subject: |
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| Of course, there is always that trivial bit of Luke being guided by Kenobi's spirit throughout the trilogy. |
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BenDaMan Chief Petty Officer

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Posted: 27.05.2005, 05:44 Post subject: |
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If by trivial you again mean projecting himself using the force, then sure. _________________ The best way to screw a sheep is take it to the edge of a cliff. They push back harder. |
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