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0.87 Changes + Wishlist


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PostPosted: 26.11.2006, 11:08    Post subject: 0.87 Changes + Wishlist Reply with quote

Done so far:

Code:
v 0.87:

- Some optic changes to the scoreboard
- You can now combine/create items even with full inventory
- Reduced damage of Ronin and Onmyoji by 5
- "Kaze" no longer goes through magic immunity
- "Fujin`s Breath" now deals reduced damage to buildings

- Reduced gold cost of Scroll of Negation to 150
- Ring of Life now also gives +5 armor (1000 gold now)

- Smoothened some rough edges of the terrain
- Shops are now shown on the minimap


Also I´m currently working on a new ranged caster hero, theme thunder:

Some may be surprised that he`s ranged but we still need more ranged heroes, imo.
Some ability ideas would be nice, especially support abilities.

Also I´m working on a new shop in the bottom lane, the 2 honor armors of the smith will be moved there to make some place for some basic attribute items (+3 str/agi/int). And of course there will be new items in too.

Any other changes you want to see? Balance? Items?
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PostPosted: 26.11.2006, 12:21    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ah, this should be fun. I love casters! IIRC, you've been thinking about a thunder-themed mage for a while now, right? What sort of direction do you have in mind? I assume Chain Lightning is not quite it. Auf den Arm nehmen

Basic attribute items are very welcome, but how about a medium attribute item for Int as well? Str and Agi can currently buy Helmets of the Dragon for a relatively cheap and substantial boost, but Int has to get an honour cost item.
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PostPosted: 26.11.2006, 13:29    Post subject: Reply with quote

So you were thinking of role to be support?
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PostPosted: 27.11.2006, 18:12    Post subject: Reply with quote

For the basic item:

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A magical amulet which increases the wearer`s primary attribute by 3.

Costs 400 gold.

Is this ok?

Hero: No real concept yet, so suggest skill please or a whole hero Winken
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PostPosted: 28.11.2006, 07:06    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sounds good, but do you mean heroes can only buy this thing for their primary attribute? I would think having three versions that any hero can buy would make more sense, since it is not always your primary attribute you wish to boost.

Ha, if this were a few months back, I would have a whole hero written out and posted within a half hour of reading that. Sadly I am in the middle of finals. Auf den Arm nehmen
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PostPosted: 28.11.2006, 21:30    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Sounds good, but do you mean heroes can only buy this thing for their primary attribute? I would think having three versions that any hero can buy would make more sense, since it is not always your primary attribute you wish to boost.

You`re right, pushing int sometimes makes sense, damn all the good code for nothing Winken

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Ha, if this were a few months back, I would have a whole hero written out and posted within a half hour of reading that. Sadly I am in the middle of finals.

Good luck and if you are tired from learning, write some hero Winken
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PostPosted: 30.11.2006, 21:20    Post subject: Reply with quote

can you give some more details on what kind of skills you are considering for this hero? im very interested.

i just started playing, but im not so great because hardly any games get hosted.

btw im the 100 registered user. do i get a cookie?
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PostPosted: 30.11.2006, 21:33    Post subject: Reply with quote

Maybe they'll throw a pie at your face. Or you get a free 1€ shopping spree, too bad there's nothing we can offer to sell Smilie . By the way...if you're registered, why post as a quest?
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PostPosted: 02.12.2006, 01:29    Post subject: Reply with quote

Small update:

Code:
- You can now combine/create items even with full inventory

- Reduced damage of Ronin by 5 and Onmyoji by 10
- Reduced armor of Ronin and Ninja by 4
- Reduced strength gained per level for Onmyoji

- "Kaze" no longer goes through magic immunity
- "Fujin`s Breath" now deals reduced damage to buildings
- Spawned ninjas no longer have 30% evasion

- Reduced gold cost of Scroll of Negation to 150
- Ring of Life now also gives +5 armor (1000 gold now)

- Smoothened some rough edges of the terrain
- Shops are now shown on the minimap
- Some optic changes to the scoreboard
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PostPosted: 03.12.2006, 10:19    Post subject: Reply with quote

So, the new version is coming soon? Say in 2 or 3 weeks?
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PostPosted: 03.12.2006, 12:16    Post subject: Reply with quote

Probably I send KoNL a beta soon, then they shall test for balancing. No new heroes in the next version as the balance things seem to be more important.
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PostPosted: 06.12.2006, 05:27    Post subject: Reply with quote

hmm.. well I got some suggestion
How about adding some better items? what I mean, like make items that gives better stats
and for starters, probably add a cgheap item that gives +3 to all stats, and +3 extra for one Stats, idk the name of that item in DotA sorry xD

and Heros are so slow imo, you should make them faster
and how about giving more money? coz it's only 300 something at the start isn't?
it's kinda hard then

Towers are quite hard to destroy.. idk if they have a lot of hp, or what

More characters huh? Can't think of a job, but I could think of some elements though

how about um... Like a Big Native Tribesman like that?
if you have played Dynasty Warriors 4, or basically Dynasty Warrios, why not get a similar hero like the Nanman tribe in DW 4?
this should be easier, why not just get some ideas for character from Dynasty Warrios, or even Samurai Warriors if you got it xD

A Pirate would be good, and some Magic caster, My say is to have more Strength hero, coz not many right now I think
a Thief? doesn't relate to Japanese at all really Traurig
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PostPosted: 06.12.2006, 05:31    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sorry for the double post, I couldn't edit Traurig

Got more Ideas Sehr glücklich
how about some Shama? Spearman's and some Bombadier?
as for the name, You gotta think by yoursel,f because I'm not good at making the names sorry Traurig
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PostPosted: 06.12.2006, 11:13    Post subject: New hero if u want Reply with quote

How about some new hero like an Alchemist? or an Witch/Sorcerer or what? Sehr glücklich or how about an Cannoneer?(sorry if I wrong wrote it Lachen)
ok so, how about u make a new recipe shop for the newest version?????
i'll hope-ing if u make sum magic caster
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PostPosted: 06.12.2006, 14:37    Post subject: Reply with quote

You may have not realized, but this game doesn't want to be anywhere near what DotA is. We dislike DotA. We value skill greatly over item abilities. Thats why we will not add mass stat raising items. So we would appreciate it if you didn't try to add in elements from DotA into this game. This is NOT DotA, and it will NEVER be DotA.

Adding new heroes is being worked on. We already have sufficient ideas for new heroes and your heroes don't really fit into the feudal era japan theme. We must take note of the filesize when adding new heroes. We will add them only after thorough work. So try not to shoot at us with incomplete ideas, prepare the hero idea thoroughly yourself and then post it.

If he cares for information about those 2 games he could simply ask me instead of getting the games somewhere himself. I have played both and own DW5.

Dynasty Warriors is not a good source for info, because it takes place in China, in short wrong country.

Samurai Warriors instead, well that's an excellent source of info and ideas:
1. It happens in feudal Japan era.
2. It has people who really existed according to history and folktales in it.

In other words the characters you play with have really existed during that time-period.
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