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Andruiduz · Joined: 05 Oct 2006 Posts: 3

Greetings each and everyone of the Sagons!

I'm posting here, becouse I've today been killed through luring. I had been hunting giant spiders all day long and had just gotten my experience back since the last times I died (look at my deathlog) and I was just getting some mana at the temple of Plains of havoc. Suddenly my mom calls me at my cellphone and i run to get it. I come back 6 seconds later maybe and find myself dead. It seems like Basiac had been killing a orc leader and it turned on me. i had high hp but still it killed me. She didnt heal me or anything becouse if she would we wouldnt have this problem.

I would like a payment that covers my losses.

At the screenshot I got you can see everything.

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Amziz · Posted: 05.10.2006, 21:46 Post subject:

Here's a little hint before you go afk 1 sqm from pz, don't.. no 100 mana is worth the risk of dieing, ever. Anyhow I'm sure we can solve this, be patient.
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Tychoneus · Wanderer of the Sagon Joined: 08 Aug 2004 Posts: 860

We can solve this, I am sure Basic didnt have any uhs on her or she would have heald you. We will discuss this with her dont worry too much.

Yours,
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Andruiduz · Joined: 05 Oct 2006 Posts: 3

Okay, but i know for a fact that she had uh's. She said she held an uh over me but she didnt uh me fast enough. I think a leader of FoH will contact you.

kind regards,
Andruiduz.

Sephirothe · Gender: Joined: 30 Jan 2005 Posts: 734

You make it seem it was her fault you died, but in the end you could've entered that pz zone since you knew about the risks of afking below.

And also, it ain't very unlogical you got your bp uhs closed as a paladin (considering the new hotkey feature).

Anyway - like Tychoneus said, we'll discuss this.
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Natures Lord · Wanderer of the Sagon Joined: 21 Jul 2004 Posts: 748

To end this discussion once for all.
You where AFK in PoH - one SQM from PZ.
Basiac is one of Sagons oldest and most trusted members, For sure she had no intentions to harm you in any way.
No payment will be paid.

Sagon is truely sorry for your losses.

*Natures Lord
Dilpomat of Sagon
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Raks · Joined: 06 Oct 2006 Posts: 2

Well this won´t be accepted by me for now. It was more then obvious that she lured this leader on him and you know this.
"haven´t opened uh´s"... well everyone should know where his / her uh´s are. and it was enough time to open it. i can see 5 hits on the screenshot and i´m sure there were more.
Edited : this is my personal opinion

This will be discussed within our CoE and i´m sure you´ll get contacted again.
Feel free to contact me or any other CoE.
Have a nice day

~Raks
Council of Eldest of the Friends of Honour

Macadoshis · Gender: Joined: 06 Oct 2006 Posts: 4

Greetings Sagon,

I wonder, is it always that the council is making such confusing posts? I mean

Amziz
Wanderer of the Sagon

Natures Lord · Wanderer of the Sagon Joined: 21 Jul 2004 Posts: 748

Lure??? The automatic target switch makes the target to attack people close the first attacker, in this case Andruiduz. I am the diplomat of Sagon and looking in to this case it takes me less than 5 seconds to come to this conclusion as Andruiduz was AFK which is ilegal no matter the time.

If you dont agree with this its sad, As we always had a good relation with the FOH. But as I see it, no Sagon is to blame for your members death.

To get some facts straight, Its Basiac and nothing else, also its a she.
Not to forget Sagon dont have any council.. We are a group of wanderers where are all are seen as equal.

If you wish to add anything to this discussion, feel free to contact me tomorrow.

*Natures Lord
Diplomat of Sagon
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Macadoshis · Gender: Joined: 06 Oct 2006 Posts: 4

Sephirothe · Gender: Joined: 30 Jan 2005 Posts: 734

Macadoshis · Gender: Joined: 06 Oct 2006 Posts: 4

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Elliot · Wanderer of the Sagon Joined: 21 Jul 2004 Posts: 430

Greetings Macadoshis please be careful with drawing hasty conclusions.

First of all you are right that afking is not illegal but also you have to remember that when you go afk you take the risk of being killed by other player or by a monster and your member should have known about it.

Secondly the luring system makes creatures change targets and attack people around so even it changed or Basiac it could have changed back on your friend. Moreover, what you might know Basiac rarely uses a crossbow. Our member brings up his character in a much diffrent way than most of us and mostly does not even carry bow or crossbow with him prefering the meele fighting and that explains why Basiac was standing next to the leader, as you could clearly see attacking the leader. Blaming our member because he had not managed to use an uh or did not have them at all is silly because first of all it was your members fault and risk he took standing one square next to protection zone.

Thirdly when you are refering confusing post I dont' see anything confusing in our posts. We told you that we will take care of it and investigate it and from the infromation we got we drawn a conclusion that Basiac is not guilty for this inccident and it was your member who should be responsbile for his death if he decides to afk in hunting area.

Also as far as I know Basiac saved and returned his loot so what would be the sense of killing your member then? It would have to be a serious hate from our member towards yours to kill someone and then give back his loot gaining nothing in fact from this murder.

Accusing our member of luring is luring without having a straight proffs is not of the best style. I and my fellow Sagons hardly believe that our member Basiac who did not kill anyone in her 7 years of playing would lure anything in attempt to kill anyone.

Of course we are open for discussion but a discussion followed with arguments not just with accusations.

//Elliot

Sephirothe · Gender: Joined: 30 Jan 2005 Posts: 734

Tychoneus · Wanderer of the Sagon Joined: 08 Aug 2004 Posts: 860

Well Elliot aside that Basic is a woman, you said it very well.

Anyway, lets stop throwing mud on each other for a while, this is starting to look like some children in a sand bank.

I havent even heard Basics side of the story yet. I think she should post now, and mayeb its best to leave the decision on the course of action to her.

Yours,
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