ABBA on "Een van de acht", 1976

Re: ABBA on "Een van de acht", 1976

Joe - 17.07.2012, 19:52
ABBA on "Een van de acht", 1976
Taking this over from another thread.

ABBA performed "Dancing Queen", "When I Kissed The Teacher" and "Money, Money, Money". According to Mies Bouwman, who owns the rights, no clip was archived.
http://abbaontv.com/1976/description-een-van-de-acht.html

We have pictures of the rehearsals, but which song was it?


We have pictures of a performance, but which song was it?


We have this picture of the "award ceremony" from Dick (soldier)


And we have several pictures of their other activities during their visit to Holland in 1976.

Is their any more information regarding the show?
Did ABBA wear the Kimonos on all songs?

While one can recognize the big flowers, the costumes are different. Does the award photo actually show another rehearsal? Or did ABBA perform and returned in different clothes later? Did ABBA rehearse on more than one day?

Re: ABBA on "Een van de acht", 1976

Angeleyes - 17.07.2012, 20:03

Thanks for starting this thread, Joachim. :D
Hope we all may find the answers to these questions.

In this video you'll see a very nice compilation of that day, from arriving in Holland, rehearsals, awards and performance:
Link

In the picture of Dick you'll see the same outfit as here in the video where Ad Visser talks to ABBA at 2:45.
Should this be taken in the afternoon? And were the giving of awards rehearsed as well? (As we later see pictures of ABBA with their golden albums in kimono's?!)

I am almost sure they performed all songs in their kimono's. And on some pictures I even think to notice them performing Dancing Queen.

Re: ABBA on "Een van de acht", 1976

Joe - 17.07.2012, 20:20

November 18
Arrival at Schiphol , wearing the same clothes as the rehearsal pictures show.

November 19
Press conference and Hitkrant awards at the Bel Air Hotel, same clothes as on Dick's picture

They also appeared on Toppop that day.

November 20
Een van de acht.

Re: ABBA on "Een van de acht", 1976

robban - 18.07.2012, 11:42
Re: ABBA on "Een van de acht", 1976
[quote="Joe"]Taking this over from another thread.

ABBA performed "Dancing Queen", "When I Kissed The Teacher" and "Money, Money, Money". According to Mies Bouwman, who owns the rights, no clip was archived.
http://abbaontv.com/1976/description-een-van-de-acht.html

Yes the clips still are there and owned by Mies Bouman. I also spoke with a guy here in holland who has the recordings. You can buy it from Mies but she asks an enormous amount of money for it.. The guy who has also these recordings and worked for the dutch television can play this on an occasion, for money ofcourse. I asked him to do for the fanclub day but he was in london this year.

Re: ABBA on "Een van de acht", 1976

welshabbalover - 18.07.2012, 17:13
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robban wrote: You can buy it from Mies but she asks an enormous amount of money for it.. The guy who has also these recordings and worked for the dutch television can play this on an occasion, for money ofcourse. I asked him to do for the fanclub day but he was in london this year.



Let's start up a collection.. :lol:

Re: ABBA on "Een van de acht", 1976

Joe - 18.07.2012, 20:34

^^Yes, I know about the footage with Ad Visser. Hopefully one day we will get to see some footage of "Een van de acht" through something like this too.


robban wrote: What was in the show, i do not remember, but i remembered that they were escorted by the police and that was on tv also.. to Germany? after Holland.. Is that possible?
The next stop for TV was Paris on November 24. They did some photo sessions:

These two by Peter Mazel


and a third with toy pets


But I don't know when and where they were shot.

Apart from that I have no clue what they did inbetween.

Re: ABBA on "Een van de acht", 1976

Joe - 19.07.2012, 03:04

:shock:

ABBA on TV: "Money, Money, Money", "When I Kissed The Teacher", "Dancing Queen"
ABBA Annual: "Money, Money, Money", "When I Kissed The Teacher", "Why Did It Have To Be Me"
You say: "Money, Money, Money", "Dancing Queen", "Why Did It Have To Be Me"

Right? :confused: "Houston, there's a problem!" :lol:

However, none of the pictures I know, neither from the rehearsals nor from the performances, show Björn on (lead) vocals like on ABBA-dabba-doo, he's always in the background. So WDIHTBM seems the most unlikely song to me. Couldn't there be any confusion about both shows? If not, "Een van de acht" becomes an even bigger mystery!

Re: ABBA on "Een van de acht", 1976

lemmon - 19.07.2012, 05:54

It is! They sang; When I kissed the teacher, why did it hve to be me and Money 3x. That's how it was!

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Adam2008 - 19.07.2012, 08:07

Yes, Lemmon is right. That's how it was.

I also remember that ABBA was introduced in the beginning of the show. They came on the stage in their normal clothes. The performance was between the second part and the final part of the show and then they wore their kimonos.

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Carribean - 19.07.2012, 16:32

Gosh I watched this as well as a child and although I am not sure about what songs I clearly remember Why Did It Have To Be Me. I remember the girls, or at least Frida, dancing during the instrumental parts. When I Kissed The Teacher could be performed as well and Money Money Money makes sense it being the current single at that time.

The Mies Bouwman thing is interesting. Why does she have the rights and not her tv station Avro!? She seems to be a very down to earth and fortunate lady. If she had any ABBA material from 1976 in her personal vaults I am sure she would sell it. Gathering dust in any vaults does not bring anything to anyone.

The press conference footage as shown with Ad Visser recently had nothing to do with Mies since it was filmed in Den Haag and was not a part of her show. The parts where Ad Visser interviewed ABBA had also nothing to do with Mies since it was part of his show TopPop.

I for one would be very happy if this material would surface one way or the other.

:wink:

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robban - 19.07.2012, 21:41

Carribean wrote: Gosh I watched this as well as a child and although I am not sure about what songs I clearly remember Why Did It Have To Be Me. I remember the girls, or at least Frida, dancing during the instrumental parts. When I Kissed The Teacher could be performed as well and Money Money Money makes sense it being the current single at that time.

The Mies Bouwman thing is interesting. Why does she have the rights and not her tv station Avro!? She seems to be a very down to earth and fortunate lady. If she had any ABBA material from 1976 in her personal vaults I am sure she would sell it. Gathering dust in any vaults does not bring anything to anyone.

The press conference footage as shown with Ad Visser recently had nothing to do with Mies since it was filmed in Den Haag and was not a part of her show. The parts where Ad Visser interviewed ABBA had also nothing to do with Mies since it was part of his show TopPop.

I for one would be very happy if this material would surface one way or the other.

:wink:

No one said it had to do something with that? OTher then that the tapes are still available, again, Mies has them, and this guy I told about, because I talked with him on the phone about this.

So we see what will happen in the future..

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Carribean - 19.07.2012, 23:54

robban wrote:

No one said it had to do something with that? OTher then that the tapes are still available, again, Mies has them, and this guy I told about, because I talked with him on the phone about this.

So we see what will happen in the future..

Ok just pointing that out since the topic is about Een Van De Acht.

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twinkling star - 09.08.2012, 15:44

I've been searching for more than a week for my old diaries. In these days, as an ABBA fan, I wrote a review of every ABBA appearance or radio show in it, if possible, with some pics from that show. In my diary from 20 november 1976 I wrote that ABBA were introduced right at the start of the show. Mies Bouwman's first words were: Yes, they are here and the whole audience was shouting, then ABBA came on stage for a very short interview and Mies Bouwman said they were to come back later in the show to perform LIVE with the Eén van de Acht orchestra.
Just before the final of the show ABBA appeared on stage to perform TWO songs in their white kimono's: MONEY, MONEY, MONEY (just released as the new single) and WHY DID IT HAVE TO BE ME. When I kissed the teacher or Dancing queen were NOT performed. What really is unique for this show is that ABBA performed LIVE! This is what I wrote more than 35 years ago in my diary. Hopes this help to clear some things...

Re: ABBA on "Een van de acht", 1976

Joe - 09.08.2012, 17:07

twinkling star wrote: Mies Bouwman said they were to come back later in the show to perform LIVE with the Eén van de Acht orchestra.
Just before the final of the show ABBA appeared on stage to perform TWO songs in their white kimono's: MONEY, MONEY, MONEY (just released as the new single) and WHY DID IT HAVE TO BE ME. When I kissed the teacher or Dancing queen were NOT performed.
That's really sensational news! :shock: :slobber:

Re: ABBA on "Een van de acht", 1976

billydog - 10.08.2012, 00:45

I'm finding this thread fascinating, so thanks to everyone who has contributed so much interesting information 8)

S x

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ABBAonTV - 21.08.2012, 21:06

Hi and thanks to Karin for alerting me to this thread.

This programme is a real mystery and "twinkling star" has surprised us all with the news that they only performed two songs! I suppose the rumour of the other two songs was maybe from rehearsals or dress rehearsals? Perhaps a magazine was in to view the rehearsals and wrote that they performed Dancing Queen only to find that they decided to drop it in the live broadcast (for example)?

I was told several years ago that Mies B has a copy of all shows herself. This is because the programme was LIVE and she wanted to review her performances afterwards. She apparently gets bugged by not only ABBA fans but fans of The Osmonds, Bay City Rollers etc. So it's probably a case of if you have to supply it for one, you'd have to do it for all so it's easier/better to say no to all-comers.

However, I was also told (and I can't remember who by now it was so long ago) that the programmes could be made available but the greedy moo wants silly money per second's worth of footage.

As someone else said, what's the point? Why not just sell them on now and start earning some current money from them?

Whilst I never thought I'd ever get to see So Long from Top of the Pops, I am confident that we will see these performances from 1 vd 8 one day - but it will mean that Mies will no longer on this earth.

Thank you for all the updates - it's another case of putting many heads together and getting the answer.

I will now update ABBA on TV based on the information supplied by "twinkling star" with my grateful thanks.

Sara

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Carribean - 22.08.2012, 12:30

ABBAonTV wrote:
However, I was also told (and I can't remember who by now it was so long ago) that the programmes could be made available but the greedy moo wants silly money per second's worth of footage.


There is always a lot of hear-say. I remember that there is also a rumour -and maybe it is true- that the I Stand Alone tapes are lost. Someone states it on a forum and off we go.
Same with Mies Bouwman, who seems to be a very nice lady and does not seem to take herself too seriously. I just cannot imagine it being true. Several clips of her with ABBA members have been released (and bought I assume) so why not the famous 1976 footage?
Has anyone of us ever contacted the lady herself??

Re: ABBA on "Een van de acht", 1976

lemmon - 22.08.2012, 17:37

It was playback. No live vocals.

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Carribean - 22.08.2012, 23:37

Visitor1982 wrote: It's no secret in the Dutch TV world that Mies Bouwman is a greedy woman. She does not allow scenes from her programmes being used on Dutch TV unless she is being paid truck loads of money for it.


Hear say? Is there a link where we can actually read that?
I did search and found nothing. What I did find is a link that last year Mies was voted by 2000 Dutch people as the most positive Dutch person ever. Does not sound like a greedy person to me, lol!

http://www.nu.nl/binnenland/2543635/mies-bouwman-positiefste-nederlander-aller-tijden.html

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Carribean - 23.08.2012, 04:14

So there is no link, nothing.
People who seem to be greedy and into money will not be seen as positive I am sure but that is another discussion.
Either way: would be nice to know more and have accurate info. Also about ABBA singing live or not.

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robban - 23.08.2012, 13:13

Carribean wrote: So there is no link, nothing.
People who seem to be greedy and into money will not be seen as positive I am sure but that is another discussion.
Either way: would be nice to know more and have accurate info. Also about ABBA singing live or not.

Not everything that is known or experienced by people is on the internet! thank god.

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Carribean - 23.08.2012, 22:18

Thanks Marnix.

As I said before: there is a lot of hear say and I am sorry but I am not impressed when people talk about people they know or people they have met. I like to read facts which you -having studied journalism- will only appreciate. If greedy Mies is a well known fact then it should be on line somewhere because that is the way things are these days.
Obviously it is not as well known because you mostly know through journalist friends. I am not one although I am a photographer for a paper so does that make us collegues? ;)

Anyway, I have followed Mies over the years and read a lot about her but did not know this. Now I do know thanks to you offering interesting links.

I would like to add that I do not think she is greedy at all. She was a free lancer, came up with many formats for shows and owns the rights. She does not want to be on tv too much these days and controls who shows what. Smart lady!