When Do YOU say enough is enough.......

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johnny59 - 11.06.2012, 09:44
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Foreverfan wrote:
So is it over for you... :?:


I've never been one of the collectors. I've got me the Arrival Deluxe album because of the videos and I've purchased "ABBA The Albums" to have everything on CD instead of vinyl. That was about the only CDs I got during the last thirty years.

So in a certain way it's been over for me for a very long time.

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mozpiano2 - 11.06.2012, 09:54

I get CDs if they have a different mastering. It's interesting for me to collect different masterings (obviously that isn't very common I know :lol: )

Rudolf

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drimnagh - 11.06.2012, 11:38

The Deluxes, yes- for the DVDs. But that's it. I have or can get any of the music anytime I want to. As for other stuff like books.. of course, yes. I loved The Scrapbook and 'Treasures'- they are great to have.

But I don't rush out to get every rehash, no siree. A lot of the compilations I didn't even bother to get as I simply couldn't be arsed- it's all been released in one way or another over the years.

The one thing I want more than anything now is an official Agnetha DVD. I think it's shocking that Frida has one and yet the other singer in ABBA hasn't! That's crazy.

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Joe - 11.06.2012, 12:00

Moved to Fan Experiences

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Joe - 11.06.2012, 12:26

As long as a compilation offers something new or previously unreleased on CD/DVD I always will stay interested. I don't collect editions or all ABBA stuff, I collect the music/videos.

I can be very patient and so I didn't buy More ABBA Gold back then, despite of the completely unknown I Am The City on it. I bought Gold 2010 especially because of the Money, Money, Money cartoon (it was my first Gold) and The Essential Collection DVD because of the two new Spanish Clips and for having all remastered clips together.

In the end it depends on how much I want to have new/improved tracks/clips immediately and how big I think chances are to get it with another release soon. Another reason could be a special artwork which attracks me and I most likely would buy a re-release of the German The Very Best Of ABBA for sentimental reasons.

Anyway, compilations primarily are made for casual listeners anyway.

The Deluxe versions are a must-have for me, especially because of the DVD, as I want to replace all my Youtube etc files with official quality clips. New DVD releases usually are a must for me too.

I don't buy many other CDs and DVDs anyway. There's only a handful of today's artists who I'm more interested in and so why not spend it on the music which I really do like, always did and always will? Apart from that I never had a problem with selling things again, like some 2001 issues now.

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Paspie - 28.06.2012, 16:43

I don't understand why we need to complain about every ABBA Compilation disc that is shoveled out, we can always avoid buying them in the first place if we don't want to. I've even sold a few.

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Emmanuelle - 29.06.2012, 05:45

Seanie(: wrote: ^^ But Universal should be putting their energy into a decent live compilation instead of the Gold rehashes.

They won't. Forget it. I think we can count ourselves lucky to have the Deluxe editions. I don't know that Universal makes that much money on those. Gold and co. bring back a lot more.

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Pabs - 29.06.2012, 18:39

As we know well, the Deluxe albums don't make any noticeable difference to ABBA's unit sales at all. As for "why don't they do it for the fans?", how many die-hard ABBA fans actually exist in the entire world, do you think? Not very many. Certainly not much more than 10,000 (WORLDWIDE!), I'd say. And most probably much less than that!

Even ABBA selling 80,000 extra units in one year would be tiny. It's chicken-feed compared to the numbers they sell to casual music buyers each year - yeah, the kind of folks who want just the hits but aren't really bothered about ABBA, and who certainly couldn't care less about extras and unheard stuff.

We've got to face facts and realize that we, the diehard ABBA fans, are a VERY RARE BREED indeed! We don't make much money for ABBA's record company/distributors. We might as well not even exist. There's just too few of us for them to care about. It's as simple as that.

Pablo

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Seanie(: - 29.06.2012, 19:13

There has to be more than 10 000. I'd say there would be 50 000 fans that would buy a live album. Even people who were at the concerts (lucky buggers) back in the day would buy it.

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Seanie(: - 29.06.2012, 19:25

50 000 at the start, throughout the years it would keep going up.
I'm done arguing with you Pabs :)

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Charles - 29.06.2012, 22:49

I just bought "The essential collection" 2 cd/1 dvd at german AMAZON. I wonder if IŽll ever play it :roll:

Charles

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supertrouper1 - 30.06.2012, 01:57

Hmm, I buy just about everything. I must have the same tracks so many times - I couldn't possibly count. I wonder how many copies of say, the song Dancing Queen I have? It must be a ridiculous amount. I have a vast collection - but still no where as much as some fans photos I've seen. I've been collecting A88A since 1976.

However, I never did buy a Number Ones CD. Because I couldn't find one in any shop with the cardboard outer sleeve not damaged in some way. They weren't in cellophane to protect them and they all looked tatty. I got the DVD though. I have tried to stop buying GOLD's though. It's getting a bit silly now.

Richard Knight
London UK

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drimnagh - 30.06.2012, 08:24

There are worse things a person could spend money on! It's no big deal. If it makes you happy...I mean, how much for a CD or DVD? You'd spend more on a night out!

I don't bother with rehashes, though. As for a 'live' album- that would be great but it won't happen. 'GOLD' is the cash cow and always will be.

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Fire&Ice - 30.06.2012, 09:46

At the beginning of my rekindled fandom, I would buy anything, books, cds, etc.

I know I said earlier I hadn't bought any compilations but one or two. However, I remember one particular "boxset" compilation (it came in a box, lol) which I ordered by phone. I saw the ad on TV and they advertized the booklet as well. That booklet was the reason to buy it.

Today it turns out to be an ultra rare set. To my knowledge, only Jean Marie Potiez and I own this one. :lol:

Still, I've said goodbye to other compilations a long time ago. Really, why should I have hits over and over again, when I prefer non-hits way more?

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johnny59 - 30.06.2012, 10:22

Twenty years ago I was on the way to become a freaked out railroad model collector.

I decided to get children then. That's a finally curing therapy. It will ground your hobby budget to a degree that will make you stop wasting your money for stuff like this for several decades.
:rotfl:

edit: language error correction.

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Fire&Ice - 30.06.2012, 14:21

johnny59 wrote: Twenty years ago I was on the way to become a freaked out railroad model collector.

I decided to get children then. That's a finally curing therapy.

Apparently not for another crazed train railroad model collector who raized me. :lol:
But I remember if he found something expensive but really worth buying, it would be discussed. Marklin was a huge part of my pre-ABBA life. :lol:

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Pabs - 01.07.2012, 09:48

Everyone is entitled to spend their money in whatever way they wish, if it makes them happy. But, Joe, what do you think of those people who complain whenever there's a new ABBA hits compilation released, and then they go straight to the shop, while grumbling and cursing, and BUY IT?!! :shock: Then these complainers go on ABBA forums after they bought their 200th re-hash of the same songs and write angry things about the record company, telling everyone how greedy these record companies are, re-releasing the same things.

I'm sure you've seen this kind of behaviour before in some ABBA fans, haven't you? What do you think of that?

Pablo

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Joe - 01.07.2012, 10:32

Pablo, this may happen, but I don't trace the forum posts for complaints and crosscheck them with statements by members who actually bought them. :lol: Are they the same members and/or the same compilations? I really don't know and I also don't know how many there are who buy compilations

- without being a collector (collectors are a very special species anyway :lol:)
- for some bonus on it (tracks, clips)
- for some interesting artwork
- because of some mastering issues
- or for other aspects

I think the borders between complaints about the quality or errors of compilations and the complaints about the general fact of compilations being released often aren't that clear anyway.

Finally the main reason for general complaints is that the total number of compilations just seems so very huge compared to releases of unpublished material. One may argue about it, for example because some compilations are meant to be rather for a local market, but reasonable complaints or not, it doesn't mean that there may not be an interesting compilation for someone from time to time (for whatever individual reason). I don't necessarily see a contradiction here. Most people aren't consistent about everything they do.

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Fire&Ice - 01.07.2012, 12:11

Both guys Pablo and Joachim have valid points about rererereleases.

I am aware of members here who complain about the new rererelease, but I am not actually sure they buy it indeed. I am aware of collectors who do buy these rerereleases, but never complain.

I don't mind rereleases, but I just don't buy them. However, if there is a new: photo (I've never seen before), a booklet (I did buy one for it, lol), or oh, wishful thinking - a new track, even if only one, or a video clip lol, you should be damn sure I am going to do anything necessary to get it.

At least I used to do that while collecting audio and video stuff in the past. I have pretty much covered all the grounds with a few video exceptions. So I am good.

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Carribean - 03.07.2012, 23:40

Universal may release any compilation they want, I could not care less. They get sold and in a way provide for other less succesful ABBA releases like the solo remasters, Lycka or some DeLuxe editions.
I think I have two Gold editions: and I bought them simply because I wanted to.

:wink:

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abba_babete - 07.07.2012, 08:41

Well, I'm a collector, and my collection is just starting, compared to other collections, so I don't wanna say that is enough so early... I think collect ABBA is something I'll do for all my life, and I like to see my life on this way. The only thing I don't like is the releasing of new compilations because there's nothing actually new, but, as a collector, I need it. But I don't have money to buy it always, and there are some rare stuff waiting for my money. :confused: :confused: :confused: :confused: