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Re: Dutch Gossip!?: new Abba single
Charles - 26.01.2012, 19:34
Dutch Gossip!?: new Abba single
On dutch tv channel SBS 6 Shownews, there was a short news item about a new Abba single! :shock: :shock: :shock: They said something like: "Good news for Abba fans: the group will release a new single." And that was it. They showed an old Abba picture. I don´t know where this story comes from. Maybe the fact that there will be something new (" Like an angel..." medley) on the forthcoming "The Visitors" deluxe edition has something to do with this gossip. Or did anybody hear this news too? As Shownews is a gossip programm, I wonder why they´ve made the choice to tell this news. How interesting is this Abba news for the general public? Was this also in the news or in gossip programms abroad?
Charles
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Emmanuelle - 26.01.2012, 19:41
Feh. I bet it's that medley, too. How gossip grows... :roll:
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Angeleyes - 26.01.2012, 20:32
I was told it was mentioned on our Dutch FB (Hyves) too, today:
http://www.hyves.nl/topic/18926334/ABBA_brengt_nieuwe_single_uit/?fromSlotPosition=3
Sorry...no time to translate that story right now...
Re: Dutch Gossip!?: new Abba single
platobird - 26.01.2012, 21:01
It says "From a Twinkling Star to a Passing Angel" will be on Visitors Deluxe. It also says the DVD will have new material on it. I'd better get this on order quick before you guys buy them all. :lol:
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Joe - 26.01.2012, 21:09
Emmanuelle wrote: Feh. I bet it's that medley, too. How gossip grows... :roll:
I won't bet against you. :lol:
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uma - 27.01.2012, 17:29
I've heard the same news in prime time national news on TV (!!).
There was a picture of the four standing together on the balcony of Benny's hotel (MM premiere).
The Visitors de luxe will include new unreleased track "From a twinkling star to a passing angel" and 6 aditional tracks with DVD with the last concert (?) :shock: :shock:
I'm quitre surprised and do not take this news very seriously. I will wait and see and hope for the best.
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robban - 27.01.2012, 17:47
Typical for the dutch media and press.. they have so many times not correct information or just gossip! Shame on the dutch press!!
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uma - 27.01.2012, 18:08
Obviously not only Dutch press... :wink:
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Fire&Ice - 27.01.2012, 18:55
uma wrote:
The Visitors de luxe will include new unreleased track "From a twinkling star to a passing angel" and 6 aditional tracks with DVD with the last concert (?) :shock: :shock:
Uma, at least in Slovenia they do pay attention to ABBA. Here - absolutely nothing.
I suppose the last concert would be Dick Cavett, as the show is sometimes referred to as the mini concert.
Re: Dutch Gossip!?: new Abba single
Carribean - 27.01.2012, 19:26
One very serious Dutch newspaper that uses Rolling Stone magazine as a source:
http://www.volkskrant.nl/vk/nl/3380/muziek/article/detail/3139142/2012/01/26/ABBA-brengt-na-18-jaar-nieuwe-single-uit.dhtml
And in Belgium they have the same single news:
http://www.standaard.be/artikel/detail.aspx?artikelid=DMF20120126_131
I don't care. Always nice to see ABBA in the news when it is about their music!
Re: Dutch Gossip!?: new Abba single
Charles - 27.01.2012, 19:32
And now it has already spread to YouTube: type "From a twinkling star to a passing angel"...
Well, this is hot news, even outside this Abba-crazy forum :lol: I´m glad Abba´s in the centre of attention right now.
Charles
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aggie-fan - 27.01.2012, 20:17
it was in my cities news paper yesterday. saying "new song by abba" little do people know (in my city) its just an unreleased song from 30 years ago. just so they can sell more records for this album. I can see why record companies come out with "unreleased songs" on completion albums for artists that have passed away, but abba have not. they should just come back together for their fans or just all together stop coming out saying its a new song, when infact it was recorded 3 decades ago.
I will not be wasting my money on a record to hear a "new" song, i will just listen to it on youtube when it gets on there. Not going to waste my money on a record that is only made to get more money out of doing absolutely nothing.
Re: Dutch Gossip!?: new Abba single
robban - 27.01.2012, 20:57
well even the so called serious news papers ( whom are not always neutral at all) have it wrong.. abba does not release a new single do they??
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platobird - 27.01.2012, 21:34
OMG, this even made Yahoo News over here. :shock: It says:
ABBA fans will soon again be saying "Thank you for the music" with the release of a new track on a special edition of the disbanded 70's pop group's "The Visitors" album. The record, including new track "From a Twinkling Star to a Passing Angel," is the first official new release by the Swedish group in 18 years. Universal Music Group spokeswoman Mia Segolsson said Friday that the special edition of "The Visitors" — originally released in 1981 — will be available in stores from April 23.
ABBA — Agnetha Faeltskog, Benny Andersson, Bjoern Ulvaeus and Anni-Frid Lyngstad — split in 1982. The band has never reunited. Known for catchy hits in the 70s and 80s — such as "Dancing Queen," and "Money, Money, Money" — ABBA have sold 400 million records worldwide.
This picture was included
Re: Dutch Gossip!?: new Abba single
jacko10 - 27.01.2012, 22:12
It was in the Daily Mail today the information is from the original Abba the site
Jack
http://abbasite.com/articles/news/the-visitors-deluxe-edition-released-in-april!
And too be honest with you , I am fed up with buying now, I have brought set after set of cds just too get another version of this or that, after years of being a fan, this is the thanks we get, one lousy track? Until they decide too release yet another world weary complilation with yet more lost tracks? Obviously theres plenty out there. This is serious teasing by the record company's sorry but my spending as ended
I would have prefered either a single or compilation at a higher price if necessary
not a constant revamp of albums
Jack
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Ralph, Amsterdam - 28.01.2012, 00:10
Dutch talkshow 'Pauw & Witteman' about ABBA
Last night on Dutch public TV the serious late night talkshow Pauw & Witteman had an item about ABBA and the forthcoming release 'Visitors deluxe'. Former tv host Ad Visser (now 64 and once host from the mega popular musicshow TOPPOP) talked about why ABBA was so succesfull. He said that the boys wrote fantastic songs (and kept on doing that after ABBA), but only in combination with the voices of the girls ABBA could produce a sound that made them worldfamous. He also stated that an old 1981-song will be released as a new single. Clips of several ABBA songs were shown. 'The day before you came' was reviewed as one their very best.
Re: Dutch Gossip!?: new Abba single
Joe - 28.01.2012, 01:06
As a general note, to avoid duplicated discussions please stay on topic here which is a claimed single release. All general discussion about the Deluxe edition should go in here
http://www.iphpbb.com/board/ftopic-30652567nx61610-10932.html
Thanks.
Joe (mod team)
Re: Dutch Gossip!?: new Abba single
iancee - 28.01.2012, 04:09
Those bastions of truth at News Corp in Australia are reporting ABBA's "first single release in 18 years"
http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/entertainment/music/abbas-first-single-release-in-18-years/story-e6frexl9-1226254686629
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Vimmerby - 28.01.2012, 07:04
Re: Dutch talkshow 'Pauw & Witteman' about ABBA
Ralph, Amsterdam wrote: Last night on Dutch public TV the serious late night talkshow Pauw & Witteman had an item about ABBA and the forthcoming release 'Visitors deluxe'. Former tv host Ad Visser (now 64 and once host from the mega popular musicshow TOPPOP) talked about why ABBA was so succesfull. He said that the boys wrote fantastic songs (and kept on doing that after ABBA), but only in combination with the voices of the girls ABBA could produce a sound that made them worldfamous. He also stated that an old 1981-song will be released as a new single. Clips of several ABBA songs were shown. 'The day before you came' was reviewed as one their very best.
Yes, check this out!
http://omroep.vara.nl/media/86110
and fast forward to 4:00 minutes
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Geordiegirl - 28.01.2012, 22:38
Well at least The Times here almost got it right today, they refer to it being a new track (which it is), but don't mention that it is a medley of demos at all, so countless people are going to get the wrong idea. At least they didn't say it was a new song or single. Gill
Re: Dutch Gossip!?: new Abba single
I Let The Music Speak - 28.01.2012, 22:45
The boundaries are blurred these days though. If the new track is available to download individually then it could chart as a single. If it does, it would only make the lower reaches. It won't be a top 40 hit.
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Carribean - 29.01.2012, 23:21
I Let The Music Speak wrote: The boundaries are blurred these days though. If the new track is available to download individually then it could chart as a single. If it does, it would only make the lower reaches. It won't be a top 40 hit.
Very blurry indeed and it is funny how the Dutch press ran with it. Another popular Dutch tv show even opened with the news of a new single.
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levi - 30.01.2012, 16:33
Just watched the talkshow Pauw en Witteman, and I must say I like the
way Ad Visser talked about ABBA. He talked about them in a nice way and
recognised Bjorn and Benny being good composers. The songs were strong, but the specific ABBA-sound was created by the combination of the
girls' voices, he said.
However it strikes me how the news of just one demo, not even released, gets this kind of attention. It has been said that it will be released as a single, which won't be the case, I believe. It shows however that there
is a kind of need of new ABBA material.
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onlyabba4me - 31.01.2012, 16:33
I See.
Re: Dutch Gossip!?: new Abba single
I Let The Music Speak - 31.01.2012, 22:55
^^^ Unfortunate that the post I refer to has been removed (or rather, edited to almost nothing), but I have kept my reply below intact:
Colin, no offence, but please stop continuing to compare ABBA to Queen or The Beatles.
Queen were still a current act in 1995. The three surviving members were still working together, and it was known that Freddie Mercury had recorded some vocals between completion of the Innuendo album and his death. I bought that album (Made In Heaven) not realising that only about three tracks were genuinely new recordings. The vocals on single Heaven For Everyone were already 8 years old by then, but the rest had been newly recorded by the surviving members. It was seen as a farewell to Freddie.
The Beatles also newly recorded tracks for single release using vocals recorded by John Lennon before his death. The Beatles were, and still are, generally held in much higher regard than ABBA.
For ABBA to have a hit single would require them to get back together and record something new (both the Queen and Beatles singles were new apart from unavoidable old vocals from deceased members). A 30 (or more) year old recording from ABBA would not be acceptable when all four members are (thankfully) alive and well. Releasing Just Like That or any other officially unreleased track would be of interest to fans and some of ABBA's wider audience. Not enough to be a hit, particularly if downloaded illegally (something that neither The Beatles nor Queen needed to worry about).
As for owing us anything, of course they don't. We pay over our money for a piece if plastic with music on, end of transaction. We're not buying the artist. If re-released compilations help fund deluxe editions or other niche items for fans, then I'm all for it. I'm not going to buy the compilations if there's nothing new on them. No one's forcing me to buy them!
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onlyabba4me - 01.02.2012, 12:49
OK.
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Carribean - 01.02.2012, 19:35
I Let The Music Speak wrote: ^^^ Colin, no offence, but please stop continuing to compare ABBA to Queen or The Beatles.
Interesting post but it is not clear to me what you responded to since Colin changed his post.
Anyway, I do not think that ABBA should release any new single nor should they ever record again as ABBA.
:wink:
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Hades - 01.02.2012, 20:12
Carribean wrote:
I do not think that ABBA should release any new single nor should they ever record again as ABBA.
My thoughts exactly. As far as I'm concerned, ABBA as an active group is a thing of the past.
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Visitor1982 - 01.02.2012, 21:51
With the right promotion, anything can chart.
I'm sure that if ABBA would release a 'new' single (not a new recording), like Just Like That or Just A Notion, with the right kind of promotion, it would find its' way onto the charts.
Songs like As Good As New or If It Wasn't For The Nights could also be hits today if B&B would allow it and if Universal would make some animated videoclip and a few dance remixes from current DJ's.
Just the mention of a new old track to be released is world news and still people wonder if ABBA could make hits today? Come on!
Marnix
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I Let The Music Speak - 01.02.2012, 21:58
^^^ Unlikely, Marnix. At least in the UK. Old songs already available to download individually on iTunes would not have a market. I certainly wouldn't download a track I already own umpteen times physically. An unreleased track from 30 years ago or more might just make the lower reaches. We are in the download era now and it's much harder for established acts to have hits. So many people would illegally download (ripping from YouTube is included in this).
If ABBA did re-group and record, then the amount of media interest would probably be enough to give them a hit as long as it was done right.
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Visitor1982 - 01.02.2012, 22:10
I Let The Music Speak wrote: ^^^ Unlikely, Marnix. At least in the UK. Old songs already available to download individually on iTunes would not have a market. I certainly wouldn't download a track I already own umpteen times physically. An unreleased track from 30 years ago or more might just make the lower reaches. We are in the download era now and it's much harder for established acts to have hits. So many people would illegally download (ripping from YouTube is included in this).
If ABBA did re-group and record, then the amount of media interest would probably be enough to give them a hit as long as it was done right.
But this downloading stuff is happening to all artists, not only to bands from 30 years ago. Every new song from every artist can be found online minutes after release, or sometimes even before it is released officially.
I agree the single business has changed drastically, but I do believe that with the right kind of promotion every track can be a hit. Be it a completely new song from Madonna, an old Beatles demo with new production from Jeff Lynne or a unknown ABBA song like As Good As New. Marketing is all that matters.
Personally I don't care for new ABBA singles. I want an ABBA Anthology set. I want Baby I Won't Come Back, Stop And Listen To Your Heart, Monsieur Monsieur, Love For Me Is Lover Forever, Lady Bird, Just A Notion, Another Morning With You, Padre, Just Like That, Hovas Vittne, Sang Til Gorel, In The Arms Of Rosalita, Under Attack [cold ending] etc. I don't care much for anything else.
They have surprised us with this new demo medley anf for me hopes have gone up that one day soon they might relent and release a whole set with outtakes, demos, early lyrics, alternate mixes etc.
Marnix
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onlyabba4me - 01.02.2012, 23:35
I agree with Marnix. The truth is that very few people know most
of the ABBA Songs that are not on 'Gold'. When they do hear them,
they like them - which is why Download Sales of 'Slipping Through
My Fingers' etc., went up in 2008 - due to people hearing it, for
the first time, in the 'Mamma Mia!' Film.
ABBA do not have to be together, for an old Album Track to be
a Hit. The Video can be a Cartoon, or Computer Generated.
Indeed, it is now possible to create ABBA, (as they were in
the 1970's), & make it look like they are in a New Video.
We can have a Computer Generated ABBA! I'm sure that
ABBA would refuse to allow that. It would feel like someone
was trying to 'own' them as people - almost.
Sadly, all that ever gets Promoted, (to be honest), are the 19
Tracks on 'Gold'. With about 8 to 10 other ABBA Songs being
almost as well known.
I can tell you how little is known about ABBA's Recordings. One
of my Friends - Darren - used to work at The Official Charts Company.
In 2006, they got a copy of '18 Hits' sent to them, by Universal.
They were amazed to hear ABBA singing in other Languages. It
was the first time that any of their Staff had known that ABBA
recorded in Swedish, Spanish, French, & German. They liked
them too. Darren thought that it was terrific to hear them.
And those Staff had worked in the UK Music Industry for Years.
No wonder that the 'General Public', knows even less about ABBA
Songs, when even the UK Chart people knew so little about them!
I understand the argument, that it is up to Benny & Bjorn, if we can
have the unreleased Songs. That is fine. It does not really bother me,
that this leaves Universal no other choice, except to keep on putting out
Compilations of old ABBA Singles. Some Fans don't get it - why
Universal do that. The answer is that they want to keep making money
out of ABBA, & as Benny & Bjorn hardly ever assist them in that,
they see no other choice - the same old Singles have to be the
money-makers.
So, anyone who feels that ABBA owe the Fans 'nothing', are
entitled to think that. But - they must also accept that we will
see old ABBA Singles - on Compilations - in the future. And
there is no use any Fans complaining, when they do get released,
as that is, (mainly), all that we are going to get.
I think that only World War III will see an end to ABBA Compilations
being released.....
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Carribean - 02.02.2012, 03:03
onlyabba4me wrote:
So, anyone who feels that ABBA owe the Fans 'nothing', are
entitled to think that. But - they must also accept that we will
see old ABBA Singles - on Compilations - in the future. And
there is no use any Fans complaining, when they do get released,
as that is, (mainly), all that we are going to get.
I am one of many who feels that ABBA -of course-does not owe us anything.
They released all they wanted to release but we still got the early mix of Waterloo, there was a demo on Lycka and so on.
Universal releases compilations which is only natural because ABBA music still makes money and that is what a company does: make money.
But Universal also releases great stuff for us fans. No one really cares about remastered solo albums by Agnetha and Frida or Lycka (including many bonys tracks). But they were released anyway.
The DeLuxe releases for sure are no big sellers either but we got some great stuff as well, especially rare footage. And what about ABBA in Japan?
I am the last one to compain about ABBA or Universal and now that we get some unreleased music I am just over the moon! It also brings them back into the media: grrrreat!!
:D
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I Let The Music Speak - 02.02.2012, 08:40
onlyabba4me wrote: I agree with Marnix. The truth is that very few people know most of the ABBA Songs that are not on 'Gold'. When they do hear them, they like them - which is why Download Sales of 'Slipping Through
My Fingers' etc., went up in 2008 - due to people hearing it, for
the first time, in the 'Mamma Mia!'
Mamma Mia! was a phenomenally successful film, and Slipping Through My Fingers was readily available to download individually, and yet where did it get to in the chart? The lower reaches? Films have long been known to promote singles - just ask Bryan Adams - but Mamma Mia! was the highest grossing film in UK box office history and yet still couldn't make it a hit! Maybe before the download era it could have been, who knows, but not now.
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Seanie(: - 04.02.2012, 18:13
I agree, most people don't know Abba after the Gold songs. My parents all know Lay All Your Love On Me, and yet they don't know Summer Night City. They know I Have A Dream, yet they don't know Under Attack :roll:
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I Let The Music Speak - 04.02.2012, 19:18
Seanie(: wrote: I agree, most people don't know Abba after the Gold songs. My parents all know Lay All Your Love On Me, and yet they don't know Summer Night City. They know I Have A Dream, yet they don't know Under Attack :roll:
I just think that if people want to know more, they can check YouTube. I struggle with the idea of releasing an album track as a single in this day and age.
When The Albums was released a few years ago, HMV were selling it in-store for £15 for quite a while. 99 tracks for that amount is excellent value (£1.67 per album) but once that's been done, trying to sell individual album tracks for 99p each (and not even physically) is a no-brainer.
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