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Re: What's the Most Meaningful Metaphor in ABBA Music

platobird - 02.09.2007, 17:55
What's the Most Meaningful Metaphor in ABBA Music
The topic that's running on Most Beautifully Sung Word led me to think of this topic, and I don't believe it has been done before. There's no doubt that Björn had an excellent command of language, and he wove many metaphors into the ABBA lyrics. The purpose of a metaphor is to add feeling or enhanced meaning to a thought - more than what direct words would do. So what metaphor, in what song conveys "feeling or meaning" to you? (Similes are OK too.) :D

I have many favorites, but one is "let your body feel the velvet of the night" from Andante, Andante. :applause: The night is not always scary like "Yellow eyes, the spotlights of the city nights" from Tiger. :dead:

As a bonus to the topic - is there any metaphor that doesn't work for you? :tongue:

Re: What's the Most Meaningful Metaphor in ABBA Music

WATERL00 - 02.09.2007, 21:16

"Every feeling you're showing - is a boomerang you're throwing"

So much truth about that. The rest of the songs however is rtaher simple - lyric-wise at least.

Re: What's the Most Meaningful Metaphor in ABBA Music

ygdra75 - 02.09.2007, 22:28

I really appreciate the subjects you bring in Platobird. This is another one I like. The first metaphore I think of and one I've always liked is:

"like the embers as they die..love was one prolonged goodbye.."

As a teenager I used it on a sort of goodbye-card for a girl when our love ended. But it's beautiful anyway. This wonderful song has more beautiful metaphores. For exemple past and present that "now and then become entwined, playing games within my mind".

I'm curious to read other responses

Ygdra

Re: What's the Most Meaningful Metaphor in ABBA Music

ygdra75 - 02.09.2007, 22:33

O sorry...to quick :oops: Now I confuse things. The topic about the most beautiful word was not brought up by Platobird. But then again, perhaps when I read all your responses Platobird, my opinion will not change and at least this one is a very interesting one... :wink:

Ygdra

Re: What's the Most Meaningful Metaphor in ABBA Music

Maxi-saxi - 03.09.2007, 05:29

Love Is dynamite drug baby so why don't we start right away... from Lovers live a Little Longer.

Maxi-saxi

Re: What's the Most Meaningful Metaphor in ABBA Music

Lammer - 03.09.2007, 06:49

I like the language in Should I Laugh or Cry:
All I see is a big balloon, halfway up to the moon...
He's wrapped in the warm and safe cocoon of an eternal lie...

Platobird is right; there are so many metaphors, similes, etc. in ABBA songs. The one above is the first that came to mind. Some that don't really "work for me," would include (dare I say?): "humble pie" in When All is Said and Done; "broken a feather" in Chiquitita... but I love the songs nevertheless.

:)

Re: What's the Most Meaningful Metaphor in ABBA Music

Fire&Ice - 03.09.2007, 10:06

Lovely topic Platobird, but it seems my favourite metaphors have already been mentioned, SILOC in particular.

Maybe I could only say that I let the music speak is a metaphor in its entirety.

Re: What's the Most Meaningful Metaphor in ABBA Music

Toni - 03.09.2007, 19:00

Very nice topic, Platobird!

"My My, at Waterloo Napoleon did surrender.
Oh yeah, and I have met my destiny in quite a similar way."


"You move like a flame of fire
Your eyes like a flash of lightning.
The answer to all desire.
And I´m gonna tame you wild thing" ("Watch Out")


and once more my favorite one:

"Our love was a snowbird.
It´s flying away.
You tell me it´s over,
what more can I say.
So dance, while the music still goes on,
it´s gonna be our last goodbye."


Toni :wink:

Re: What's the Most Meaningful Metaphor in ABBA Music

Villemo - 04.09.2007, 01:49

I like this one from Eagle

I’m a bird in the sky
I’m an eagle that rides on the breeze

and also this fragment from Move On

Like a roller in the ocean
life is motion
move on
like a wind that’s always blowing
life is flowing
move on
like the sunrise in the morning
life is dawning
move on
how I treasure every minute
being part of it
being in it
with the urge to move on

Re: What's the Most Meaningful Metaphor in ABBA Music

Anonymous - 04.09.2007, 07:08

Villemo wrote: and also this fragment from Move On

Fragment? That's the entire chorus.

Re: What's the Most Meaningful Metaphor in ABBA Music

astrid - 04.09.2007, 09:40

there are so many i like that i dont know where to begin... but here's one that i stumbled upon and i think the lines are great :


in the pale light of the morning
nothing’s worth remembering
it’s a dream, it’s out of reach
scattered driftwood on a beach

( from summernight city )


i cant stand it when ABBA is being underrated when it comes to their lyrics... in my opinion abba's lyrics are absolutely amazing.

astrid

Re: What's the Most Meaningful Metaphor in ABBA Music

restareabear - 04.09.2007, 16:51

Same song as mentioned above, but a different lyric is my favorite:

"Lovers live a little bit longer baby
You and me, we have a chance to live twice"

Good Lord, if lovers only live a little BIT longer,
Just how much "love" is there going on to double the life expectancy?! :eyebrows:

Re: What's the Most Meaningful Metaphor in ABBA Music

Maxi-saxi - 06.09.2007, 05:27

restareabear wrote: Same song as mentioned above, but a different lyric is my favorite:

"Lovers live a little bit longer baby
You and me, we have a chance to live twice"

Good Lord, if lovers only live a little BIT longer,
Just how much "love" is there going on to double the life expectancy?! :eyebrows:

Yes I wonder!! :eyebrows: :eyebrows: :wink1:

Maxi-saxi

Re: What's the Most Meaningful Metaphor in ABBA Music

drimnagh - 06.09.2007, 18:49

So many but for now I'll go with 'Should I Laugh Or Cry'- the whole lyric.

The metaphors in 'Eagle' float my boat, too. I love the ambiguity.

-J

P.S Along with Astrid it really gets my goat when people dismiss or trivialise ABBA's lyrics; IMO they are amongst some of the most sublime in pop music!!

Re: What's the Most Meaningful Metaphor in ABBA Music

DancingQueen - 06.09.2007, 19:56

So many good choices are made here: I would never come up with some of those. There are indeed many metaphors in ABBA songs, which proves (again) how could they actually were: even with lyrics though many people said only their music was important to their songs.

Very well done, and keep those kind of threads coming: these are very intresting! :applause:

Re: What's the Most Meaningful Metaphor in ABBA Music

Angeleyes - 06.09.2007, 21:59

The one that comes in my mind is:

We’re like sun and rainy weather
sometimes we’re a hit together
me and I
gloomy moods and inspiration
we’re a funny combination
me and I

:wink:

Re: What's the Most Meaningful Metaphor in ABBA Music

Bonnie - 06.09.2007, 22:05

This one makes me blush: :oops:

I’m your music
I’m your song
play me time and time again
and make me strong
make me sing
make me sound
andante, andante
tread lightly on my ground

come to think of it, the rest of the Andante andante lyrics make me blush too. :lol:

Re: What's the Most Meaningful Metaphor in ABBA Music

Fire&Ice - 06.09.2007, 22:07

Bonnie wrote:
come to think of it, the rest of the Andante andante lyrics make me blush too. :lol:

:agree:

Re: What's the Most Meaningful Metaphor in ABBA Music

Bonnie - 06.09.2007, 22:09

touch me gently
like a summer evening breeze

Phew, it's getting hot in here!

Re: What's the Most Meaningful Metaphor in ABBA Music

abbagav - 06.09.2007, 22:11

I love topics like this, ones that make you think. Although being as daft as a brush, I sometimes get a bit confused as to whether I've actually understood what's going on but I like this one!!!

My favourite metaphor has to be 'Tiger'. As a child I thought it was simply a song about a tiger terrorising people in a big city - doh! - but as I've grown up, I understand how clever it is using the symbol of a tiger to represent the horrors that one can encounter in a big city - the fear, violence and danger that it present so often in our society on any street corner. Hats off to Bjorn for that one! And a big BOO! to me for being a bit of a div in the first place...!

Some lyrics can be quite clumsy however - it does grate a bit in 'I've been waiting for you' with:

'I, I've been in love before,
I thought I would no more,
Managed to hit the ceiling...'

Not good - ahem...

But on the up side in 'Move On', the symbolism is just fabulous - amazing lyrics from a group where english isn't their mother tongue. Oh how I love that song!

abbagav

Re: What's the Most Meaningful Metaphor in ABBA Music

Maxi-saxi - 07.09.2007, 04:04

What If I meet you What If I EAT You!!!

From Tiger.


Maxi-saxi :shock:

Re: What's the Most Meaningful Metaphor in ABBA Music

drimnagh - 07.09.2007, 12:36

BUT 'I Let the Music Speak' HAS to be one of the best!

'Move On' 'floats my boat', too abbagav! :lol:

-J

Re: What's the Most Meaningful Metaphor in ABBA Music

Angeleyes - 07.09.2007, 18:28

I’m Carrie not-the-kind-of-girl-you’d-marry :jedi: , THAT’s ME :wink:

Re: What's the Most Meaningful Metaphor in ABBA Music

Angeleyes - 07.09.2007, 18:29

drimnagh wrote: BUT 'I Let the Music Speak' HAS to be one of the best!

'Move On' 'floats my boat', too abbagav! :lol:

-J

I agree! :D

Re: What's the Most Meaningful Metaphor in ABBA Music

PeopleNeedLove - 13.09.2007, 02:07

They came flying from far away/
Now I'm under their spell

ABBA were, of course, describing the eagle. For me, though, the above describes ABBA themselves...........:P

Matt

Re: What's the Most Meaningful Metaphor in ABBA Music

Fire&Ice - 13.09.2007, 10:13

Probably nobody noticed this lovely metaphor in I have a Dream because the song is so widely unliked, but here it is:

I'll cross the stream

Re: What's the Most Meaningful Metaphor in ABBA Music

Simsalabim - 13.09.2007, 12:16

Fire&Ice wrote: Probably nobody noticed this lovely metaphor in I have a Dream because the song is so widely unliked, but here it is:

I'll cross the stream

I love that! :D

Re: What's the Most Meaningful Metaphor in ABBA Music

drimnagh - 13.09.2007, 13:11

Yes, Matt I agree with you about 'Eagle'- it's almost as if ABBA are describing themselves---

''They speak strangely but I understand,
I have questions and they know everything..''

How fantastic are those lines??!! To speak in a strange tongue and yet to be 'understood' by a select few (that's US, folks) and to have questions.. the answers to which are within your grasp because they ''KNOW EVERYTHING..''

God, it's enough to make me wanna take up yoga (again) and go on a pilgrimage! :lol:

-J

Re: What's the Most Meaningful Metaphor in ABBA Music

Bobbysbrother - 18.09.2007, 18:29

I really like "....Theres a special love like an eagle flying with a dove..." from Thats Me. Well, a "special love" indeed... :wink1:

And then I also like these following words of wisdom... I agree with you Waterloo, so much truth about that.

WATERL00 wrote: "Every feeling you're showing - is a boomerang you're throwing"


Andrea

Re: What's the Most Meaningful Metaphor in ABBA Music

platobird - 18.09.2007, 18:46

Bobbysbrother wrote: I really like "....Theres a special love like an eagle flying with a dove..." from Thats Me. Well, a "special love" indeed..
I always wondered if the eagle and the dove were Björn and Agnetha?? The metaphors seem to fit them - although maybe Tiger fits Agnetha better. :shock:

Stig wrote the lyrics for That's Me, so he had a different perspective on ABBA than Björn. :D

There's so many great metaphors in ABBA music - and even some to live by - like those boomerangs. :wink:

Re: What's the Most Meaningful Metaphor in ABBA Music

welshabbalover - 18.09.2007, 19:22

Hey :)

After a little thought, and not seeing it here, I think a great one is..

''And your loves a blown out candle''

From Chiquitita

Very Poignant and touching

:D

Re: What's the Most Meaningful Metaphor in ABBA Music

Clown boy - 18.09.2007, 22:33

Many great songs and metaphors have already been mentioned but i think some of the lines in Soldiers are quite deep:
'Is it true that the beast is waking,
stirring in his restless sleep tonight?'
or
'Cause if the bugler starts to play
we too must dance'

Re: What's the Most Meaningful Metaphor in ABBA Music

platobird - 20.09.2007, 16:59

Clown boy wrote: 'Cause if the bugler starts to play
we too must dance'
One of my favorites - and an ominous warning. :shock:

ABBA usually stayed away from political commentary. :)

Re: What's the Most Meaningful Metaphor in ABBA Music

Cronus - 20.09.2007, 17:55

Definitely the word "Dance" in Dance(While the Music Still Goes On) is a pretty straightforward, and suggestive, metaphor. Maybe that's why I love listening to it - the song has clever "subversiveness" about it, IMO.

Re: What's the Most Meaningful Metaphor in ABBA Music

storm approaching - 22.09.2007, 05:54

abbagav wrote: Some lyrics can be quite clumsy however - it does grate a bit in 'I've been waiting for you' with:

'I, I've been in love before,
I thought I would no more,
Managed to hit the ceiling...'

Not good - ahem...

abbagav

I used to think this too, until someone (on a non-ABBA forum) suggested it was "manage", i.e. the second and third line (as you have them) are the one clause, as if to say "i didn't think i'd fall in love again".

Since then I've had mixed feelings for it. It works metaphorically, but it's still clumsy :P.

Re: What's the Most Meaningful Metaphor in ABBA Music

Fire&Ice - 22.09.2007, 11:33

Let me see how this works:

'I, I've been in love before,
I thought I'd never be any more?
I managed to hit the ceiling

I thought I would no more manage to hit the ceiling... -- that one is better. :wink:

Re: What's the Most Meaningful Metaphor in ABBA Music

Skywatcher - 28.04.2008, 02:35

I always enjoy listening to the line 'throwing dust in my eyes'. Unusual for a song lyric, I always think, but it is brilliant nonetheless. :D

Re: What's the Most Meaningful Metaphor in ABBA Music

hamlet3 - 28.04.2008, 16:18

That's a fantastic one indeed, I thought at this too.

Re: What's the Most Meaningful Metaphor in ABBA Music

hamlet3 - 01.05.2008, 20:01

My absolute favourite is in I Let The Music Speak:
Some streets are emptiness, dry leaves of autumn rustling down an old alley
simply WONDERFUL :D

Re: What's the Most Meaningful Metaphor in ABBA Music

Belinda_sm - 01.05.2008, 21:20

Standing calmly at the crossroads,no desire to run
Theres no hurry any more when all is said and done
WAISAD

Sometimes I wish the I could freeze the picture
And save it from the funny tricks of time
STMF

Re: What's the Most Meaningful Metaphor in ABBA Music

NinaPrettyBallerina - 06.05.2008, 19:18

I've played all my cards
and thats what you've done too
nothing more to say
no more ace to play'
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