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Re: Can fans stay cool?

Joe - 20.03.2007, 02:04
Can fans stay cool?
Having a look at two recent topics I wonder why they had to lead to the need of defending ABBA or bashing other singers/groups and other defiant reactions:

In the thread about the "Top 200" list almost everybody wrote not to care about it, but still there were several angry reactions about the fact that ABBA wasn't included in this list at all. So obviously there was pretty much that people cared about. Then again the thread about the question if ABBA can be called a "band" soon leaded to a bashing of other singers/groups though IMHO ABBA's quality wasn't denied by this question at all.

I really don't want to offend anybody, but to me it seems that things which don't describe ABBA as the top of the world sometimes are taken too serious or even as an almost personal attack.

So can fans stay cool and relaxed, am I wrong with my impressions anyway or am I just not a true fan?

Joachim

Re: Can fans stay cool?

Maxi-saxi - 20.03.2007, 05:13

No I think you have hit the nail on the head so to speak, and I'll be honest I have been one of those people.

Maxi-saxi

Re: Can fans stay cool?

Toni - 20.03.2007, 19:30

In their active time ABBA was always critized by the media and self-called intellectual people. They always said, they are uncool and make only simple music not up to standard and that ABBA only want to make money.
The group and the fans were treated in a ridiculous way. Some radio stations havenŽt played ABBA because "that is not pop"!!!!!

This was and this is very nerve-tracking, I think. :evil:

Today ABBA is accepted as one of the best pop groups ever. The reasons to be angry are lesser than 1974 - 1982. But you are right. The best thing to do is to stay cool, when people still say nonsence about ABBA. 8)

Toni :D

Re: Can fans stay cool?

ABBAnator - 20.03.2007, 20:17

Toni wrote: The group and the fans were treated in a ridiculous way. Some radio stations havenŽt played ABBA because "that is not pop"!!!!!

This was and this is very nerve-tracking, I think. :evil:

Good point Toni, I think your really on to something. ABBA have been a very maligned group in the past. I remember radio stations literally having commercials stating they were "ABBA free radio stations" (meaning they didn't play ABBA) in order to actually "attract" listeners. The same thing happened to The Beegees after the disco era started to wane.

I think alot of fans have had to defend the legitimacy of their favorite group many times during their lives. So it takes only the slightest hint of a possible maligning of the group (whether it exists or not) for some fans to go into "defensive mode" and lash out at other groups or organizations (whole countries in one of the examples) to validate the legitimacy of ABBA, even though it's not necessary anymore to do so.

I think many fans need to step back and relax because ABBA is well established world-wide as one of the top acts in pop/rock history. Old habits it seems are hard to break.

Bruce

Re: Can fans stay cool?

Maxi-saxi - 21.03.2007, 05:32

Some good points by you both, makes for interesting reading.

Maxi-saxi :lol:

Re: Can fans stay cool?

rdw20675 - 21.03.2007, 12:15

i`m one of these people that has to constantly defend abba.i get sick of people bagging them always saying their music sucks.i`m not against other singers,groups or bands i love lots of different music.i grew up listening to abba so i will always love them more any other music.but to hear the constant get this s*** off when you put an abba song on any abba song,that is was annoys me. :x
the only time i get away with listening to abba around other people is when that are totally drunk and don`t care what they are listening to.
:wine:

otherwise it`s in my car or on my mp3. :D

Re: Can fans stay cool?

Joe - 22.03.2007, 12:15

Thank you for your comments. Good points being made.

I know this long history of defending being an ABBA fan myself. It probably really is a good explanation. But I also have the feeling that this need has changed much since the ABBA revival and the big presence in the media again. Even several of my friends who I never thought of finding a relation with ABBA suddenly were up to some hit compilation at least.

At the end I sometimes even doubted I could stay an ABBA fan myself as I was used to the role of being an "outsider". It just wasn't that exclusive anymore to be an ABBA fan. :wink1:

Well, today I've found my place somewhere inbetween the extremes. :D

Joachim

Re: Can fans stay cool?

Danny Andersson - 25.03.2007, 13:43

Nice topic, Joe. I often sometimes wondered too and I agree to you completely.

Nice memories by the way of defending oneself ageinst the majority in school or so. Just recently I had a glimpse of it when a fellow of mine in my local almost puked when they played a few ABBA songs and laughed at me since I'm known as an Abbafan. (Fortunately there's also a music expert who pointed out that Abba isn't exactly his cup of coffee, but that they made simply good music with beautiful melodies.)

That's life. :wink:

Regards, Daniel

Re: Can fans stay cool?

drimnagh - 25.03.2007, 14:40

Yep, fans do get a tad defensive but as Bruce pointed out it's possibly a lot to do with how maligned ABBA have been in the past. My response to criticism is always the same: " Are you DEAD? Or DEAF? (No offense to deaf or dead people) You'd have to be dead from the neck up not to appreciate ABBA.

I'm like, "Are you for real? Open your ears, you ignorant peasant...!" --and stuff in that vein.. :applause:

Joe

Re: Can fans stay cool?

jenlovesabba1982 - 26.03.2007, 19:28

[quote="Maxi-saxi"]No I think you have hit the nail on the head so to speak, and I'll be honest I have been one of those people.

Maxi-saxi[/quote]agree

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