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TorOnt - 22.02.2007, 05:04
I do I do I do I do I do
Hello anyone!
Does anybody think that I do I do etc.. has recieved enough recognition as to the melody and lyrics of the song. I believe it is as good as Dancing Queen as well as the heartbreaker The Winner Takes it All . I mean why doesn't anybody ever mention this song as one of their favorites. It is one of the first ones I always play. Especially when you watch the video version of it . I mean come on Johnny when you see Agnetha's eyes and pretty face it has to melt your heart. I know, I know yours was melted already. But how do you feel each time you see that video? For me I fall in love with her all over again as well as ABBA.
I do I do I do I do I do
Hello anyone!
Does anybody think that I do I do etc.. has recieved enough recognition as to the melody and lyrics of the song. I believe it is as good as Dancing Queen as well as the heartbreaker The Winner Takes it All . I mean why doesn't anybody ever mention this song as one of their favorites. It is one of the first ones I always play. Especially when you watch the video version of it . I mean come on Johnny when you see Agnetha's eyes and pretty face it has to melt your heart. I know, I know yours was melted already. But how do you feel each time you see that video? For me I fall in love with her all over again as well as ABBA.
Maxi-saxi - 22.02.2007, 05:10
Hi there,
Good Question, I'd have to say yeas, here in New Zealand anyway as the song was Number 1 for a while. I can remember The song with music and lyrics used to get good write up's here anyway.
And if you listern to any of those ABBA DVD's some of the critics say the same thing, Saying the song was very good musically.
Other people may have a different view though, But I like it, and I agree with you on the Video clip as well.
Maxi-saxi
Hi there,
Good Question, I'd have to say yeas, here in New Zealand anyway as the song was Number 1 for a while. I can remember The song with music and lyrics used to get good write up's here anyway.
And if you listern to any of those ABBA DVD's some of the critics say the same thing, Saying the song was very good musically.
Other people may have a different view though, But I like it, and I agree with you on the Video clip as well.
Maxi-saxi
ABBAnator - 22.02.2007, 06:30
Hello TorOnt,
I Do (x5) holds a special place in my musical heart. It was the song that introduced me to ABBA. I saw them on American Bandstand in 1976 and I was captured by the sweeping melodies of this song. It still can, when I'm in the proper mood, raise the hair on the back of my neck when they transition from the verse to the chorus. The harmonizing on this song is great, a nice example of the third voice as a matter of fact.
Additionally, watching Agnetha's performance on AB was the start of my "preoccupation" with the nordic goddess. Personally I don't like to use the term "fall in love" with someone I haven't met, it just seems creepy, but I have been overly preoccupied with Ms. Faltskog for 31 years (my wife can tell you) :wink: .
Having said all that, I wouldn't say that I Do (x5) can be compared to DQ or TWTIA. It is far more simple in complexity musically compared to Dancing Queen, and lyrically compared to The Winner Takes It All. In a personal sense I would say I love it just as much, but in a critical sense it's not as well crafted as DQ or TWTIA.
Regards,
Bruce 8)
PS: Although the PROMO of I Do (x5) isn't bad, I much prefer the Made In Sweden For Export version with the girls in the field. :)
Hello TorOnt,
I Do (x5) holds a special place in my musical heart. It was the song that introduced me to ABBA. I saw them on American Bandstand in 1976 and I was captured by the sweeping melodies of this song. It still can, when I'm in the proper mood, raise the hair on the back of my neck when they transition from the verse to the chorus. The harmonizing on this song is great, a nice example of the third voice as a matter of fact.
Additionally, watching Agnetha's performance on AB was the start of my "preoccupation" with the nordic goddess. Personally I don't like to use the term "fall in love" with someone I haven't met, it just seems creepy, but I have been overly preoccupied with Ms. Faltskog for 31 years (my wife can tell you) :wink: .
Having said all that, I wouldn't say that I Do (x5) can be compared to DQ or TWTIA. It is far more simple in complexity musically compared to Dancing Queen, and lyrically compared to The Winner Takes It All. In a personal sense I would say I love it just as much, but in a critical sense it's not as well crafted as DQ or TWTIA.
Regards,
Bruce 8)
PS: Although the PROMO of I Do (x5) isn't bad, I much prefer the Made In Sweden For Export version with the girls in the field. :)
de solere - 22.02.2007, 09:38
i do etc
I do etc, is one of my favourite songs: i like the saxo, the voices are perfect and the melody too.
Great song.
Pierre
i do etc
I do etc, is one of my favourite songs: i like the saxo, the voices are perfect and the melody too.
Great song.
Pierre
MarryMeAgnetha - 22.02.2007, 09:46
TorOnt,
This song does not seem to be a fan favourite from what I've seen, but I just love it. I agree with Bruce that it's not lyrically or musically in the same league as the other songs you mentioned, but I love it anyway.
It has such a great atmosphere to it. It has the wistful feeling of mixed emotions: the joy of hope for a new love, but also the uncertainty that comes from the possibility of rejection.
The brightness of the sound that some evidently feel is shrill or off-putting doesn't seem that way to me at all. I love -- among other things -- the solid, simple, deliberate bass line; the twangy guitar you can hear doubling the bass in places; the brightness of the eighth-note triplets on the piano almost all the way through; the girls' usual spot-on vocal performance; the orchestra bells which were used to such brilliant effect; the massive wall-of-sound backup vocals (especially when they open up at the modulation to the last verse -- gives me chills!); and certainly the defining, perfectly-executed alto sax duet.
Even with all that, I think it's a "smaller" musically and less deep lyrically than ABBA's best work. But you can be not as good as ABBA's best and still be really, really good.
So even though I Do x 5 is not ABBA's best, somehow it's still one of my favorites.
--Daniel
TorOnt,
This song does not seem to be a fan favourite from what I've seen, but I just love it. I agree with Bruce that it's not lyrically or musically in the same league as the other songs you mentioned, but I love it anyway.
It has such a great atmosphere to it. It has the wistful feeling of mixed emotions: the joy of hope for a new love, but also the uncertainty that comes from the possibility of rejection.
The brightness of the sound that some evidently feel is shrill or off-putting doesn't seem that way to me at all. I love -- among other things -- the solid, simple, deliberate bass line; the twangy guitar you can hear doubling the bass in places; the brightness of the eighth-note triplets on the piano almost all the way through; the girls' usual spot-on vocal performance; the orchestra bells which were used to such brilliant effect; the massive wall-of-sound backup vocals (especially when they open up at the modulation to the last verse -- gives me chills!); and certainly the defining, perfectly-executed alto sax duet.
Even with all that, I think it's a "smaller" musically and less deep lyrically than ABBA's best work. But you can be not as good as ABBA's best and still be really, really good.
So even though I Do x 5 is not ABBA's best, somehow it's still one of my favorites.
--Daniel
Zeebee - 22.02.2007, 11:12
Re: I do I do I do I do I do
TorOnt wrote: I mean why doesn't anybody ever mention this song as one of their favorites.
I wouldn't compare it to Dancing Queen or TWTIA, but I Do x 5 has been one of my favorite ABBA songs since I first heard it when I bought the Greatest Hits album in 1981.
Re: I do I do I do I do I do
TorOnt wrote: I mean why doesn't anybody ever mention this song as one of their favorites.
I wouldn't compare it to Dancing Queen or TWTIA, but I Do x 5 has been one of my favorite ABBA songs since I first heard it when I bought the Greatest Hits album in 1981.
drimnagh - 22.02.2007, 16:05
Definitely NOT one of my faves and I can understand why when it was released the public didn't warm to it. At least not here in windy old Blighty.
BUT....it comes into it's own on the soundtrack to a film, i.e 'Muriel's Wedding' when the cheese factor stands it in good stead and it becomes almost, but not quite, likeable and nearly hummable.
Sorry if this gets anyone's wind up. It's just not my cup of tea. And as for the title? One word springs to mind: horrendous.
Joe
Definitely NOT one of my faves and I can understand why when it was released the public didn't warm to it. At least not here in windy old Blighty.
BUT....it comes into it's own on the soundtrack to a film, i.e 'Muriel's Wedding' when the cheese factor stands it in good stead and it becomes almost, but not quite, likeable and nearly hummable.
Sorry if this gets anyone's wind up. It's just not my cup of tea. And as for the title? One word springs to mind: horrendous.
Joe
Fire&Ice - 22.02.2007, 17:19
I Do x 5 was among the first ABBA songs I have ever heard, and having already been hooked to ABBA, of course the melody and almost compelling rhythm of the song had a huge impact and appeal. The saxophone fits great into the song as well. 8)
Yes it might seem too far from pure pop and somewhat old-fashioned and schlager, but the vocals are excellent in this one.
I have always stared at Frida in the clips most and it were Frida's eyes and facial expressions in "I do" that attract my attention most! :D
I Do x 5 was among the first ABBA songs I have ever heard, and having already been hooked to ABBA, of course the melody and almost compelling rhythm of the song had a huge impact and appeal. The saxophone fits great into the song as well. 8)
Yes it might seem too far from pure pop and somewhat old-fashioned and schlager, but the vocals are excellent in this one.
I have always stared at Frida in the clips most and it were Frida's eyes and facial expressions in "I do" that attract my attention most! :D
philzone - 22.02.2007, 17:45
always one of my favourites. certainly not the top of the list for most serious ABBA fans (us). but, i have found it to be a great song to play for the ABBA-impaired (non-fans). it is so easy to get into, a lilting melody that makes you want to sway with it, kids and adults alike.
phil
always one of my favourites. certainly not the top of the list for most serious ABBA fans (us). but, i have found it to be a great song to play for the ABBA-impaired (non-fans). it is so easy to get into, a lilting melody that makes you want to sway with it, kids and adults alike.
phil
WATERL00 - 22.02.2007, 18:44
I think the problem of this song is that it sound by far not as compley as it is in reality.
I Do I Do I Do I Do I Do appears to be a nice shclager-like song with simple lyrics, a simple title, and a simple melody. But it is so much more than that. Try to sing along to it and you'll figure out how difficult it is to sing that song. it has really hih notes Agnetha and Frida had to hit and the whole melody is more compley than you would expect it to be after you listened to it for the first times.
In my opinion it is a great song, one of the best from the ABBA-album and one of the best the group did from 1972 till 1975.
The only thing I'm sad about is the fact that Benny and Björn decided to cut ot the second verse replacing it by an instrumental peace. Therefore the chorus (and the rather uncreative I Do...-line) gets too dominant, one reason maybe why people think the song is rather simple - just because it mainly consists of the chorus.
I think the problem of this song is that it sound by far not as compley as it is in reality.
I Do I Do I Do I Do I Do appears to be a nice shclager-like song with simple lyrics, a simple title, and a simple melody. But it is so much more than that. Try to sing along to it and you'll figure out how difficult it is to sing that song. it has really hih notes Agnetha and Frida had to hit and the whole melody is more compley than you would expect it to be after you listened to it for the first times.
In my opinion it is a great song, one of the best from the ABBA-album and one of the best the group did from 1972 till 1975.
The only thing I'm sad about is the fact that Benny and Björn decided to cut ot the second verse replacing it by an instrumental peace. Therefore the chorus (and the rather uncreative I Do...-line) gets too dominant, one reason maybe why people think the song is rather simple - just because it mainly consists of the chorus.
Toni - 22.02.2007, 19:22
"I Do, I Do, I Do, I Do, I Do" is really underrated. But as Fire&Ice said it, it´s because there is for many people too much "Schlager" and too less Pop/Rock in the arrangement.
Another reason is, that Björn and Benny seem to like the song not too much, according to some of their comments.
But I love the song, it was always one of my favourite ones. When I bought the album "Mamma Mia" in 1979 I was surprised, because I already knew the song, but I didn´t knew it was from ABBA. (I was not interested in ABBA, when it was a hit)
Toni 8)
"I Do, I Do, I Do, I Do, I Do" is really underrated. But as Fire&Ice said it, it´s because there is for many people too much "Schlager" and too less Pop/Rock in the arrangement.
Another reason is, that Björn and Benny seem to like the song not too much, according to some of their comments.
But I love the song, it was always one of my favourite ones. When I bought the album "Mamma Mia" in 1979 I was surprised, because I already knew the song, but I didn´t knew it was from ABBA. (I was not interested in ABBA, when it was a hit)
Toni 8)
restareabear - 22.02.2007, 19:22
I waiver. I like the song for awhile, then I get tired of it for awhile. l've always loved the sax part, but somehow after listening to it too many times it becomes seeming like it's over-produced or too "heavy". I'd always wondered what it would have been like it they'd slowed it down and made it more of a ballad.
On a slightly related note: in my hometown they once had a radio contest to see who could guess the number of times they sang the two words "I DO" in that song. I can't remember the answer. I DO (no pun intended) remember I was amazed at the number of people who were guessing figures that weren't multiples of five however.
I waiver. I like the song for awhile, then I get tired of it for awhile. l've always loved the sax part, but somehow after listening to it too many times it becomes seeming like it's over-produced or too "heavy". I'd always wondered what it would have been like it they'd slowed it down and made it more of a ballad.
On a slightly related note: in my hometown they once had a radio contest to see who could guess the number of times they sang the two words "I DO" in that song. I can't remember the answer. I DO (no pun intended) remember I was amazed at the number of people who were guessing figures that weren't multiples of five however.
michiganrafter - 22.02.2007, 20:29
Actually,
I Do x5 performed slightly better than SOS in the US on the Billboard Charts and according to chart rank, in the US, I Do x5 would lead the pack followed closely by SOS and Mamma Mia from the ABBA album.
[i]Now[/i], Mamma Mia is by far the most recognized song becuase of the musical of course. In terms of sales, SOS beat I Do x 5, but in terms of airplay, I Do actually had the edge.
WHY, I can't see. I was never enamoured with I Do x 5, but I absolutely loved it the first time I heard it in Muriel's Wedding...it was so shocking and surprising to hear I Do x 5 blare out in a church as Muriel was walking down the aisle. I don't think I've ever laughed so hard.
Somehow, though, if Muriel had chosen to be escorted to the altar to the sound of I've Been Waiting For You, I don't think the effect would have been the same.
I Do x 5 just lacks something. Maybe it's schlager, maybe it's a kind of hokiness, maybe it's the lack of lyrical depth, maybe it's the title. Maybe it just tries too hard. I know some people who absolutely love the song, particularly friends of my parents who saw it as a kind of cabaret song or show tune. But with the music being played in 1975 and 1976 on the radio, I think I Do x 5 stood out in a bit of a bad way--it just didn't fit in with the musical soundscape of the time. Maybe that's why some people loved it, but I think that's why most people never warmed up to it. Give me Fernando and Silly Love Songs and Rubberband Man instead.
Cheers!
Matt Urdan
Actually,
I Do x5 performed slightly better than SOS in the US on the Billboard Charts and according to chart rank, in the US, I Do x5 would lead the pack followed closely by SOS and Mamma Mia from the ABBA album.
[i]Now[/i], Mamma Mia is by far the most recognized song becuase of the musical of course. In terms of sales, SOS beat I Do x 5, but in terms of airplay, I Do actually had the edge.
WHY, I can't see. I was never enamoured with I Do x 5, but I absolutely loved it the first time I heard it in Muriel's Wedding...it was so shocking and surprising to hear I Do x 5 blare out in a church as Muriel was walking down the aisle. I don't think I've ever laughed so hard.
Somehow, though, if Muriel had chosen to be escorted to the altar to the sound of I've Been Waiting For You, I don't think the effect would have been the same.
I Do x 5 just lacks something. Maybe it's schlager, maybe it's a kind of hokiness, maybe it's the lack of lyrical depth, maybe it's the title. Maybe it just tries too hard. I know some people who absolutely love the song, particularly friends of my parents who saw it as a kind of cabaret song or show tune. But with the music being played in 1975 and 1976 on the radio, I think I Do x 5 stood out in a bit of a bad way--it just didn't fit in with the musical soundscape of the time. Maybe that's why some people loved it, but I think that's why most people never warmed up to it. Give me Fernando and Silly Love Songs and Rubberband Man instead.
Cheers!
Matt Urdan
edwinwilde - 23.02.2007, 00:55
Well, it's a catchy song and the girls give a great joint vocal performance. But I guess ABBA has many other songs that are even better. But it still is a great song, love the 50's music beat.
Well, it's a catchy song and the girls give a great joint vocal performance. But I guess ABBA has many other songs that are even better. But it still is a great song, love the 50's music beat.
ABBAnator - 23.02.2007, 05:54
michiganrafter wrote: I know some people who absolutely love the song, particularly friends of my parents who saw it as a kind of cabaret song or show tune.
In a sense that is how I view it, I think it is a bit of a cabaret or show tune.
I also think, in a not so intellectual respect, Agnetha and Frida singing "I love you, i do i do i do i do i do" works at a subconscious level if you were inclined to be attracted to these two women. :agree: :agree:
Bruce
michiganrafter wrote: I know some people who absolutely love the song, particularly friends of my parents who saw it as a kind of cabaret song or show tune.
In a sense that is how I view it, I think it is a bit of a cabaret or show tune.
I also think, in a not so intellectual respect, Agnetha and Frida singing "I love you, i do i do i do i do i do" works at a subconscious level if you were inclined to be attracted to these two women. :agree: :agree:
Bruce
Zeebee - 23.02.2007, 08:55
People talk about this song having a chorus, but it doesn't. It has verses and two bridges (both with the same melody but different lyrics).
People talk about this song having a chorus, but it doesn't. It has verses and two bridges (both with the same melody but different lyrics).
kitty-cat - 23.02.2007, 12:50
I do x 5 is brilliant vocally, the harmonies are wonderful on it and i love the sax, but it is not one of their best songs by far, and not a favourite with me.
Gill xx
I do x 5 is brilliant vocally, the harmonies are wonderful on it and i love the sax, but it is not one of their best songs by far, and not a favourite with me.
Gill xx
Gines - 24.02.2007, 17:11
I absolutely love the song, it is in my top 10 favourites. I love the sax, the harmonies and the fact that in places you can hear Frida hitting the low note. As somebody said it is a very hard song to sing, one minute high the next low......fantastic!!!! It was very popular in Trindad where I grew up, a must at parties and weddings. It will also always be a very special song to me forever as it is my mother's favourite Abba song and she used to love to dance to it when she was younger.
Gina
I absolutely love the song, it is in my top 10 favourites. I love the sax, the harmonies and the fact that in places you can hear Frida hitting the low note. As somebody said it is a very hard song to sing, one minute high the next low......fantastic!!!! It was very popular in Trindad where I grew up, a must at parties and weddings. It will also always be a very special song to me forever as it is my mother's favourite Abba song and she used to love to dance to it when she was younger.
Gina
Maxi-saxi - 26.02.2007, 01:47
Yes That would Be Good I would like And I guess everyone else here would Like ABBA for export to be released officially on DVD, I just love those preformances.
Maxi-saxi
Yes That would Be Good I would like And I guess everyone else here would Like ABBA for export to be released officially on DVD, I just love those preformances.
Maxi-saxi
jenlovesabba1982 - 27.02.2007, 23:03
its cheesy song but nice sentamate like video in the field where they having picnic very funny cause angetha keeps looking at frida trying not to laugh i think !one me favortie clips
its cheesy song but nice sentamate like video in the field where they having picnic very funny cause angetha keeps looking at frida trying not to laugh i think !one me favortie clips
philzone - 28.02.2007, 00:30
i was always suprised that I DO x5 was not included on ABBA Gold (only more ABBA gold).
phil
i was always suprised that I DO x5 was not included on ABBA Gold (only more ABBA gold).
phil
abbafreak - 28.02.2007, 07:49
I do!
I really like the song, Really, I do, I do, I do, I do, I do!.......REALLY!!...I Do!!:lol:
I do!
I really like the song, Really, I do, I do, I do, I do, I do!.......REALLY!!...I Do!!:lol:
Jambrong - 28.02.2007, 08:48
According to my brother who grew up during ABBA time, I do 5x was so popular that it inspired many songwriters here in Indonesia and they began making "similar" songs. Certainly, their songs became hits also ... Only good songs can do such magic, I believe ....
Jamil :D
According to my brother who grew up during ABBA time, I do 5x was so popular that it inspired many songwriters here in Indonesia and they began making "similar" songs. Certainly, their songs became hits also ... Only good songs can do such magic, I believe ....
Jamil :D
onlyabba4me - 04.03.2007, 16:59
Its Number 38 placing in the UK Charts makes it ABBA's smallest ever UK Hit. The UK hated it. It sounded awful to us.
The biggest joke is that the USA put it at Number 15, when they only put the far, far better, 'Mamma Mia' at Number 32 - insane!
UK Chart Expert, Alan Jones, is an ABBA Fan, & he has said that, 'I Do...' is the worst Single ABBA ever made, in his view. That is typical of how it sounds to UK ears. It just sounds messy. It is not one of their best Productions, either - it grates on the ear.
I am glad that the UK made it clear that we did not rate it. Thankfully, ABBA came up with a far better Single after it - 'SOS'.....
Its Number 38 placing in the UK Charts makes it ABBA's smallest ever UK Hit. The UK hated it. It sounded awful to us.
The biggest joke is that the USA put it at Number 15, when they only put the far, far better, 'Mamma Mia' at Number 32 - insane!
UK Chart Expert, Alan Jones, is an ABBA Fan, & he has said that, 'I Do...' is the worst Single ABBA ever made, in his view. That is typical of how it sounds to UK ears. It just sounds messy. It is not one of their best Productions, either - it grates on the ear.
I am glad that the UK made it clear that we did not rate it. Thankfully, ABBA came up with a far better Single after it - 'SOS'.....
MarryMeAgnetha - 05.03.2007, 01:00
So speak up, man. Did the UK like I Do, I Do, I Do, I Do, I Do or not?
--Daniel
So speak up, man. Did the UK like I Do, I Do, I Do, I Do, I Do or not?
--Daniel
ABBAnator - 05.03.2007, 02:23
onlyabba4me wrote: Its Number 38 placing in the UK Charts makes it ABBA's smallest ever UK Hit. The UK hated it. It sounded awful to us.
So it was a hit (small one) .... but the whole country hated it and it sounded awful? How do the larger hits rate, do you really, really hate those?
onlyabba4me wrote: The biggest joke is that the USA put it at Number 15, when they only put the far, far better, 'Mamma Mia' at Number 32 - insane!
How can it be insane if it was a joke? The US actually did check with you at the time to see which songs they should prefer, but they thought it would be funnier if they charted it higher just to annoy you. Sadly it took 30 years for the joke to be realized so I agree it wasn't really that funny after all. Maybe it was insane ....
onlyabba4me wrote: I am glad that the UK made it clear that we did not rate it. Thankfully, ABBA came up with a far better Single after it - 'SOS'.....
Wouldn't it have been more clear to not chart the song at all if the whole country hated it? Why chart it as high as 38? Sorry, I'm not from the UK so I'm a bit naive about the charting tactics.
I guess it's "onlyabba4me" but not if it's I Do (x5). :wink:
Bruce
onlyabba4me wrote: Its Number 38 placing in the UK Charts makes it ABBA's smallest ever UK Hit. The UK hated it. It sounded awful to us.
So it was a hit (small one) .... but the whole country hated it and it sounded awful? How do the larger hits rate, do you really, really hate those?
onlyabba4me wrote: The biggest joke is that the USA put it at Number 15, when they only put the far, far better, 'Mamma Mia' at Number 32 - insane!
How can it be insane if it was a joke? The US actually did check with you at the time to see which songs they should prefer, but they thought it would be funnier if they charted it higher just to annoy you. Sadly it took 30 years for the joke to be realized so I agree it wasn't really that funny after all. Maybe it was insane ....
onlyabba4me wrote: I am glad that the UK made it clear that we did not rate it. Thankfully, ABBA came up with a far better Single after it - 'SOS'.....
Wouldn't it have been more clear to not chart the song at all if the whole country hated it? Why chart it as high as 38? Sorry, I'm not from the UK so I'm a bit naive about the charting tactics.
I guess it's "onlyabba4me" but not if it's I Do (x5). :wink:
Bruce
platobird - 05.03.2007, 03:41
I Do has a high rating on my chart - great sustained harmony, and sung with full voices. There's a power in this song that comes not from singing loud, but from singing together.
To me it's a great example of the third voice, and this requires the girls to be exactly on pitch and equal volume. The magic of the ABBA sound comes through, and this is what differentiated them from other groups. If you don't like that sound, you don't like I Do.
The only question about "I Do" is why Benny refused to fill Frida's wine glass in the "field" video.
I Do has a high rating on my chart - great sustained harmony, and sung with full voices. There's a power in this song that comes not from singing loud, but from singing together.
To me it's a great example of the third voice, and this requires the girls to be exactly on pitch and equal volume. The magic of the ABBA sound comes through, and this is what differentiated them from other groups. If you don't like that sound, you don't like I Do.
The only question about "I Do" is why Benny refused to fill Frida's wine glass in the "field" video.
ABBAnator - 05.03.2007, 04:02
platobird wrote: The only question about "I Do" is why Benny refused to fill Frida's wine glass in the "field" video.
I think Benny meant it to be a joke, or was he insane? :roll:
Bruce
platobird wrote: The only question about "I Do" is why Benny refused to fill Frida's wine glass in the "field" video.
I think Benny meant it to be a joke, or was he insane? :roll:
Bruce
marco-esteban - 05.03.2007, 07:37
This is definitively not my favorite ABBA song. I find it much too pompeous, too "schlageresque". I don't know why Björn & Benny didn't finally release "Put on your White Sombrero", though it's very "heavy" in its arrangements, it never will be as much as "I do I do I do I do I do".
This is definitively not my favorite ABBA song. I find it much too pompeous, too "schlageresque". I don't know why Björn & Benny didn't finally release "Put on your White Sombrero", though it's very "heavy" in its arrangements, it never will be as much as "I do I do I do I do I do".
platobird - 05.03.2007, 17:28
Everyone will have their own reaction to a song, and when I first heard IDIDIDIDID (whenever that was), it grabbed on to me. I must be schlager at heart (which is why I can't find much contemporary music that interests me).
When I first heard POYWS, wasn't impressed, and I bypassed it the next few times the Super Trooper CD played. Now, I let it play through, but it'll never be a favorite, and it's not because of Frida's (cabaret-like) singing. The pronounced Spanish fiesta melody doesn't seem to fit the cowboy words. I always considered it a B&B experiment, and maybe they didn't like it so much either. If it fit the style they wanted, it would have been translated for Gracias Por La Musica.
Everyone will have their own reaction to a song, and when I first heard IDIDIDIDID (whenever that was), it grabbed on to me. I must be schlager at heart (which is why I can't find much contemporary music that interests me).
When I first heard POYWS, wasn't impressed, and I bypassed it the next few times the Super Trooper CD played. Now, I let it play through, but it'll never be a favorite, and it's not because of Frida's (cabaret-like) singing. The pronounced Spanish fiesta melody doesn't seem to fit the cowboy words. I always considered it a B&B experiment, and maybe they didn't like it so much either. If it fit the style they wanted, it would have been translated for Gracias Por La Musica.
onlyabba4me - 06.03.2007, 15:43
Hello,
ABBAnator - UK Record Buyers - over all - clearly did not rate, 'I Do, I Do, I Do....'. Why else would we put it at Number 38? We rated, 'So Long', even worse - it flopped completely. (And by UK Record Buyers, I obviously mean those who usually bought ABBA Singles - and who certainly bought the 18 Top 10 UK ABBA Hits, after, 'I Do....').
I am actually very good at UK Charting 'Tactics'. I correct UK Chart Books, & know virtually every UK Chart Book writer in the UK. I have corrected them many times on ABBA errors in their UK Chart Books. (As well as many, many other Acts). Also, the 1975 UK Chart was only a Top 50 - so Number 38 in a Top 50 is not a very high Position. Only in a Top 100 Chart does it look impressive.....
I never said that the whole of the UK hated 'I Do....'. I - obviously meant - that UK Record Buyers, (meaning ABBA Buyers), did not think enough of it for more than a few thousand to bother buying it. Most people in the UK do NOT buy more than a few Records a Year - & never did.
I hated I Do....', but I bought it, as I bought every ABBA Single from, 'Waterloo', onwards. However, from, 'SOS' to 'One Of Us', ABBA had 18 Top 10 UK Singles in a row. Why? They were better ABBA Singles, that's why.....
At no time did I even suggest that I - or the UK - really, really hated the bigger ABBA Hits. Why would I say that? They were mainly Top 4 Hits, for goodness sakes! 9 of them at Number 1, & 2 others at Number 2. Why would say that I , (or other UK ABBA Buyers), hated ABBA's biggest UK Hits?
It is often thought that 'Mamma Mia' was a classic ABBA Single - that is why it was a surprise that it only reached Number 32 in the USA. It was an insanely low Position, in that it was clearly ABBA at their best - melody & production, & chorus.
As a contrast, for the USA to put 'I Do...' as high as Number 15, was rather a joke, after what they did with 'Mamma Mia', later on - and 'Chiquitita', & 'Super Trouper', for that matter. Both were far, far bigger European Sellers than 'I Do....'.
UK DJ's regarded ' I Do...' as a joke when it came out. I heard at least 3 DJ's say it was, 'trash', & 'awful'. As a contrast, when the better ABBA Singles came out, many UK DJ's liked them so much that they played them twice in a row - 'Dancing Queen', 'Super Trouper', & so on.
I am actually just as entitled to say that I think that 'I Do...' is not very good, as those are who think it is terrific. Others in this Thread have also said that they do not think much of, 'I Do....'
It is called being able to express different views.....
Sorry if that offends some people!
Just as I have the right to wonder why the USA only put 'Fernando' at Number 13, 'Knowing Me, Knowing You', at 14, & 'SOS' at 15. Very low for such fantastic ABBA Singles.
Personally, I think that Atlantic Records simply did not Promote ABBA as well as it should have done. I am not blaming American Record Buyers - just ABBA's USA Promotion.
Hello,
ABBAnator - UK Record Buyers - over all - clearly did not rate, 'I Do, I Do, I Do....'. Why else would we put it at Number 38? We rated, 'So Long', even worse - it flopped completely. (And by UK Record Buyers, I obviously mean those who usually bought ABBA Singles - and who certainly bought the 18 Top 10 UK ABBA Hits, after, 'I Do....').
I am actually very good at UK Charting 'Tactics'. I correct UK Chart Books, & know virtually every UK Chart Book writer in the UK. I have corrected them many times on ABBA errors in their UK Chart Books. (As well as many, many other Acts). Also, the 1975 UK Chart was only a Top 50 - so Number 38 in a Top 50 is not a very high Position. Only in a Top 100 Chart does it look impressive.....
I never said that the whole of the UK hated 'I Do....'. I - obviously meant - that UK Record Buyers, (meaning ABBA Buyers), did not think enough of it for more than a few thousand to bother buying it. Most people in the UK do NOT buy more than a few Records a Year - & never did.
I hated I Do....', but I bought it, as I bought every ABBA Single from, 'Waterloo', onwards. However, from, 'SOS' to 'One Of Us', ABBA had 18 Top 10 UK Singles in a row. Why? They were better ABBA Singles, that's why.....
At no time did I even suggest that I - or the UK - really, really hated the bigger ABBA Hits. Why would I say that? They were mainly Top 4 Hits, for goodness sakes! 9 of them at Number 1, & 2 others at Number 2. Why would say that I , (or other UK ABBA Buyers), hated ABBA's biggest UK Hits?
It is often thought that 'Mamma Mia' was a classic ABBA Single - that is why it was a surprise that it only reached Number 32 in the USA. It was an insanely low Position, in that it was clearly ABBA at their best - melody & production, & chorus.
As a contrast, for the USA to put 'I Do...' as high as Number 15, was rather a joke, after what they did with 'Mamma Mia', later on - and 'Chiquitita', & 'Super Trouper', for that matter. Both were far, far bigger European Sellers than 'I Do....'.
UK DJ's regarded ' I Do...' as a joke when it came out. I heard at least 3 DJ's say it was, 'trash', & 'awful'. As a contrast, when the better ABBA Singles came out, many UK DJ's liked them so much that they played them twice in a row - 'Dancing Queen', 'Super Trouper', & so on.
I am actually just as entitled to say that I think that 'I Do...' is not very good, as those are who think it is terrific. Others in this Thread have also said that they do not think much of, 'I Do....'
It is called being able to express different views.....
Sorry if that offends some people!
Just as I have the right to wonder why the USA only put 'Fernando' at Number 13, 'Knowing Me, Knowing You', at 14, & 'SOS' at 15. Very low for such fantastic ABBA Singles.
Personally, I think that Atlantic Records simply did not Promote ABBA as well as it should have done. I am not blaming American Record Buyers - just ABBA's USA Promotion.
ABBAnator - 06.03.2007, 22:29
onlyabba4me wrote: It is called being able to express different views.....
Sorry if that offends some people!
onlyabba4me,
Well, your previous post read as if you were representing your entire country with your opinion, not just your own, I would venture that I wasn't the only one to get that impression.
Additionally, the American Billboard charts in the 70's were heavily based on weekly record sales among other things, so describing it as a joke and insane because it didn't reflect your personal view is a direct insult to the entire American buying public in 1976.
So instead of being offended I thought I would have a bit of fun with your post as, for the reasons I mentioned, I couldn't really take it seriously.
Of course you are entitled to your opinion, and I'm not bothered by someone having different likes or dislikes as it pertains to ABBA music. If we all agreed on everything and had exactly the same tastes, this forum wouldn't be very interesting to read would it? :wink:
onlyabba4me wrote: Just as I have the right to wonder why the USA only put 'Fernando' at Number 13, 'Knowing Me, Knowing You', at 14, & 'SOS' at 15. Very low for such fantastic ABBA Singles.
I'm inclined to agree with you on those points, I thought they should have charted higher myself, but you have to remember that there was a tremendous amount of good music being produced at the same time as these ABBA hits, so they had alot of competition, and not everyone in the US at that time were crazy about ABBA's style of muisc as we are, especially Fernando which has a very European flavor.
Also, as you indicate, and has been discussed in many threads, ABBA's promotion in the States wasn't what it could have been.
Your response is much more comprehensive than your original post (although still a bit condecending), thanks for taking the time to clear that up.
Cheers,
Bruce
onlyabba4me wrote: It is called being able to express different views.....
Sorry if that offends some people!
onlyabba4me,
Well, your previous post read as if you were representing your entire country with your opinion, not just your own, I would venture that I wasn't the only one to get that impression.
Additionally, the American Billboard charts in the 70's were heavily based on weekly record sales among other things, so describing it as a joke and insane because it didn't reflect your personal view is a direct insult to the entire American buying public in 1976.
So instead of being offended I thought I would have a bit of fun with your post as, for the reasons I mentioned, I couldn't really take it seriously.
Of course you are entitled to your opinion, and I'm not bothered by someone having different likes or dislikes as it pertains to ABBA music. If we all agreed on everything and had exactly the same tastes, this forum wouldn't be very interesting to read would it? :wink:
onlyabba4me wrote: Just as I have the right to wonder why the USA only put 'Fernando' at Number 13, 'Knowing Me, Knowing You', at 14, & 'SOS' at 15. Very low for such fantastic ABBA Singles.
I'm inclined to agree with you on those points, I thought they should have charted higher myself, but you have to remember that there was a tremendous amount of good music being produced at the same time as these ABBA hits, so they had alot of competition, and not everyone in the US at that time were crazy about ABBA's style of muisc as we are, especially Fernando which has a very European flavor.
Also, as you indicate, and has been discussed in many threads, ABBA's promotion in the States wasn't what it could have been.
Your response is much more comprehensive than your original post (although still a bit condecending), thanks for taking the time to clear that up.
Cheers,
Bruce
Maxi-saxi - 07.03.2007, 06:59
I like it, It made it to Number One here In New Zealand.
So it can't of been that bad :roll:
Maxi-saxi
I like it, It made it to Number One here In New Zealand.
So it can't of been that bad :roll:
Maxi-saxi
onlyabba4me - 07.03.2007, 15:02
Hello ABBAnator,
Sorry, that I can sound rather rude in my Posts sometimes. I get rather carried away in my enthusiasm, & I can end up sounding like I am 'talking down' to people.
I apologise.
If I recall correctly, I think that both Australia & New Zealand made 'I Do...' a huge Hit, THEN it was re-issued with 'Rock Me' as the 'A' Side, and that was huge in both Countries too!
As a result - if you add the Chart Weeks of both sides of that Hit together - it spent longer on either Country's Chart than any other ABBA Single.....
Hello ABBAnator,
Sorry, that I can sound rather rude in my Posts sometimes. I get rather carried away in my enthusiasm, & I can end up sounding like I am 'talking down' to people.
I apologise.
If I recall correctly, I think that both Australia & New Zealand made 'I Do...' a huge Hit, THEN it was re-issued with 'Rock Me' as the 'A' Side, and that was huge in both Countries too!
As a result - if you add the Chart Weeks of both sides of that Hit together - it spent longer on either Country's Chart than any other ABBA Single.....
Marcus - 08.04.2007, 21:20
I do think its her worst single ever. Its much too schlager. The sax is okay. But dont know i just get a vibe from it and in fact its getting on my nerves quite easily. :(
I do think its her worst single ever. Its much too schlager. The sax is okay. But dont know i just get a vibe from it and in fact its getting on my nerves quite easily. :(
kitty-cat - 09.04.2007, 17:21
Its not one of their best, i'll admit that, but the harmonies are beautiful and i love the sax part.
Gill xx
Its not one of their best, i'll admit that, but the harmonies are beautiful and i love the sax part.
Gill xx
ABBAnator - 09.04.2007, 22:15
Marcus wrote: I do think its her worst single ever. Its much too schlager.
"Her" worst single ever? Who are you referring to? I Do x5 is an ABBA song and is also a shared lead.
Bruce
Marcus wrote: I do think its her worst single ever. Its much too schlager.
"Her" worst single ever? Who are you referring to? I Do x5 is an ABBA song and is also a shared lead.
Bruce
astrid - 24.07.2007, 11:09
i do i do i do i do i do is one of my favorites. i have always loved it, even when i was still a kid in 1975. the melodyline is perfect, the lyrics simple but smart. when hearing it you wanna sing along with them. when i compare it to other songs from that time, i.e. s.o.s., mamma mia and fernando, then i do i do i do i do i do is by far the best in my opinion.
there is no song i can imagine that comes close to this type of music. it seems to be a combination of everything abba had in store, great harmonies, high notes, sax, etc. some say its a bit too much and i understand, but i like that 'much'. its definitely one of abba's best songs.
astrid
i do i do i do i do i do is one of my favorites. i have always loved it, even when i was still a kid in 1975. the melodyline is perfect, the lyrics simple but smart. when hearing it you wanna sing along with them. when i compare it to other songs from that time, i.e. s.o.s., mamma mia and fernando, then i do i do i do i do i do is by far the best in my opinion.
there is no song i can imagine that comes close to this type of music. it seems to be a combination of everything abba had in store, great harmonies, high notes, sax, etc. some say its a bit too much and i understand, but i like that 'much'. its definitely one of abba's best songs.
astrid
onlyabba4me - 24.07.2007, 12:28
Hello,
If you look in the Musicals Forum, you will see that
'I Do...' has been severely edited in 'Mamma Mia! The Movie'
as Phillida Lloyd - director - dislikes it. You now only get bits
of the Song in the Film.
To most UK ears the Single was never great anyhow.
It sounded forced, old fashioned, & messy. That's why
we put it at Number 38. I bought it, though, as I bought every
ABBA Single, but it was one that I played very rarely.
UK Chart Expert & ABBA Fan - Alan Jones - made a point of
calling it ABBA's worst ever Single. The only ABBA Single that
he ever said that about. (He said the 12" 'Lay All Your Love On
Me' was, 'Poor value for money', too - and that it would cost
them a UK Top 5 Hit. How right he was - No.7!
It was the 122nd UK Best Seller of 1981 - unheard of for ABBA!).)
UK DJ's did not play it much either, & one UK Pop Magazine
called it, 'So bad it hurts'.
I think we can safely say that the UK Media thought ABBA
had made an error by releasing that Single!
Thank God, the follow-up - 'SOS' - was a truly decent ABBA
Single!
The Germans were not huge Fans of it either - No. 6 there
- hardly great for ABBA at the time.
Hello,
If you look in the Musicals Forum, you will see that
'I Do...' has been severely edited in 'Mamma Mia! The Movie'
as Phillida Lloyd - director - dislikes it. You now only get bits
of the Song in the Film.
To most UK ears the Single was never great anyhow.
It sounded forced, old fashioned, & messy. That's why
we put it at Number 38. I bought it, though, as I bought every
ABBA Single, but it was one that I played very rarely.
UK Chart Expert & ABBA Fan - Alan Jones - made a point of
calling it ABBA's worst ever Single. The only ABBA Single that
he ever said that about. (He said the 12" 'Lay All Your Love On
Me' was, 'Poor value for money', too - and that it would cost
them a UK Top 5 Hit. How right he was - No.7!
It was the 122nd UK Best Seller of 1981 - unheard of for ABBA!).)
UK DJ's did not play it much either, & one UK Pop Magazine
called it, 'So bad it hurts'.
I think we can safely say that the UK Media thought ABBA
had made an error by releasing that Single!
Thank God, the follow-up - 'SOS' - was a truly decent ABBA
Single!
The Germans were not huge Fans of it either - No. 6 there
- hardly great for ABBA at the time.
ABBAnator - 24.07.2007, 13:35
onlyabba4me,
Curious, how many times are you going to post in this thread that the UK thought that I Do x5 sucked? I think we got it the first couple times ...
Seems like your on a mission to convince everyone that likes it that they shouldn't?
The UK media thought that it shouldn't have been released as a single? Hmm, interesting. Is that the same UK media that said ABBA were a "one hit wonder" in 1974? Or the same UK media that said Frida was ugly?
As for Phyllida Lloyd disliking it ... well she removed "Knowing Me Knowing You" from the film completely. I think that speaks volumes for her tastes.
If you don't like the song that's fine. Many ABBA fans do not and your welcome to say so. But the continuing diatribes quoting every person in the UK that has made disparaging remarks against the song are a bit disconcerting, and frankly a bit insulting to those of us that like the song.
Bruce
onlyabba4me,
Curious, how many times are you going to post in this thread that the UK thought that I Do x5 sucked? I think we got it the first couple times ...
Seems like your on a mission to convince everyone that likes it that they shouldn't?
The UK media thought that it shouldn't have been released as a single? Hmm, interesting. Is that the same UK media that said ABBA were a "one hit wonder" in 1974? Or the same UK media that said Frida was ugly?
As for Phyllida Lloyd disliking it ... well she removed "Knowing Me Knowing You" from the film completely. I think that speaks volumes for her tastes.
If you don't like the song that's fine. Many ABBA fans do not and your welcome to say so. But the continuing diatribes quoting every person in the UK that has made disparaging remarks against the song are a bit disconcerting, and frankly a bit insulting to those of us that like the song.
Bruce
Hades - 24.07.2007, 19:31
I don't understand why everything always has to be UK-oriented when it comes to the chart-success of ABBA's hits. Sometimes it seems that if it wasn't a hit in the UK, it must have been no good.
Of course, this is not true. Here, in the Netherlands 'I do' reached # 3, which made it their second biggest hit between 'Waterloo' and 'Fernando'. Also, in the US it did really well, reaching # 15.
The fact that 'Lay all your love on me' was 'only' # 122 in the bestselling list of 1981 can hardly be called a surprise. It was only available in 12-inch format. At the time, it was the highest placed 12-inch single ever, so it was hardly a failure. It was probably called 'poor value for money' because it didn't add anything to the already available album-version, f.e. an extended remix.
I don't understand why everything always has to be UK-oriented when it comes to the chart-success of ABBA's hits. Sometimes it seems that if it wasn't a hit in the UK, it must have been no good.
Of course, this is not true. Here, in the Netherlands 'I do' reached # 3, which made it their second biggest hit between 'Waterloo' and 'Fernando'. Also, in the US it did really well, reaching # 15.
The fact that 'Lay all your love on me' was 'only' # 122 in the bestselling list of 1981 can hardly be called a surprise. It was only available in 12-inch format. At the time, it was the highest placed 12-inch single ever, so it was hardly a failure. It was probably called 'poor value for money' because it didn't add anything to the already available album-version, f.e. an extended remix.
Einar - 24.07.2007, 20:06
I Do... is brilliant. I have always loved it, maybe not as much as SOS but more than Mamma Mia. I don't find it messy or shrill at all. Those words are better attributed to songs like Ring Ring, So Long and Summer Night City.
I Do... may not have done well in the UK, but if we look at other countries we can see that it was hugely successful: In Australia and New Zealand it was ABBA's first chart topper; in Austria it reached number 4, which is the same position as Dancing Queen; in Belgium it was number 2, which is the same position as Mamma Mia; in Canada it was number 12, which is not bad considering Mamma Mia hit number 20 and SOS number 9; in France it made number 14, which is not bad for that country; Germany put it at number 6, which in an improvement on So Long (11); it hit number 3 in the Netherlands where Mamma Mia peaked at 13; in Norway it hit number 2, which is the same position SOS, Mamma Mia and Fernando peaked at; in South Africa it hit number 1 (like SOS), while Mamma Mia peaked at number 5; in Switzerland it hit number 1; as already stated above I Do... was quite successful in the US. (http://www.zip.com.au/~callisto/abba.html)
It may be true that the English population in general does not like this song. However, much has also been made of the Eurovision stigma in that country. I Do... was at least an improvement on So Long.
In a TV interview from 1975/1976 the ABBA members seemed very proud of I Do... and to them it was an obvious single choice from that album. Mamma Mia was not even meant to be released as a single. It was only after the insistence of their Australian record company that it was released.
Cheers,
Einar
I Do... is brilliant. I have always loved it, maybe not as much as SOS but more than Mamma Mia. I don't find it messy or shrill at all. Those words are better attributed to songs like Ring Ring, So Long and Summer Night City.
I Do... may not have done well in the UK, but if we look at other countries we can see that it was hugely successful: In Australia and New Zealand it was ABBA's first chart topper; in Austria it reached number 4, which is the same position as Dancing Queen; in Belgium it was number 2, which is the same position as Mamma Mia; in Canada it was number 12, which is not bad considering Mamma Mia hit number 20 and SOS number 9; in France it made number 14, which is not bad for that country; Germany put it at number 6, which in an improvement on So Long (11); it hit number 3 in the Netherlands where Mamma Mia peaked at 13; in Norway it hit number 2, which is the same position SOS, Mamma Mia and Fernando peaked at; in South Africa it hit number 1 (like SOS), while Mamma Mia peaked at number 5; in Switzerland it hit number 1; as already stated above I Do... was quite successful in the US. (http://www.zip.com.au/~callisto/abba.html)
It may be true that the English population in general does not like this song. However, much has also been made of the Eurovision stigma in that country. I Do... was at least an improvement on So Long.
In a TV interview from 1975/1976 the ABBA members seemed very proud of I Do... and to them it was an obvious single choice from that album. Mamma Mia was not even meant to be released as a single. It was only after the insistence of their Australian record company that it was released.
Cheers,
Einar
Zeebee - 25.07.2007, 08:15
ABBAnator wrote: Seems like your on a mission to convince everyone that likes it that they shouldn't?
Colin is entitled to his opinion, but I agree, Bruce-it does seem like he's trying to convince us that we shouldn't like this song. I Do x5 does not sound forced, old-fashioned, or messy. Granted, it isn't a masterpiece as far as the lyrics are concerned (not that the lyrics are awful), but it's very pleasant and catchy.
ABBAnator wrote: Seems like your on a mission to convince everyone that likes it that they shouldn't?
Colin is entitled to his opinion, but I agree, Bruce-it does seem like he's trying to convince us that we shouldn't like this song. I Do x5 does not sound forced, old-fashioned, or messy. Granted, it isn't a masterpiece as far as the lyrics are concerned (not that the lyrics are awful), but it's very pleasant and catchy.
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