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Re: ABBA 76/77 versus ABBA 81/82!
Carribean - 07.02.2007, 05:00
ABBA 76/77 versus ABBA 81/82!
Hi!
Working on my picture blogs it once more is clear to me that the ABBA from the eighties is very different from the ABBA during their heyday.
In 76/77 ABBA were two happy couples on top of the world with bouncy popsongs: Dancing Queen, That's Me, Money Money Money and so on. They were enthousiastic and in a charming way naive.
The costumes were less over the top but still very amusing and the girls looked amazing.
In 81/82 ABBA were four individuals singing about divorces, fears of war and sadness: The Winner Takes It All, The Visitors, Like An Angel Passing Through My Room and so on. They seemed to have seen it all and made the impression that they were fed up.
The costumes were gone, so was the long hair; it made the girls look older and wiser.
When I look at the pics from these periods I cannot believe that just 5 years went by. It is hard to imagine that these are the same four individuals. (Luckily Benny never changed his look... lol!)
Although I am very fond of their later work (Our Last Summer, The Day Before You Came, Like An Angel Passing Through My Room, Lay All Your Love On Me...) it is the 'happy' ABBA that is closest to my heart. Songs like Move On, That's Me, Eagle and When I Kissed The Teacher can still lift up my spirits like no other music can.
Any thoughts? Thanks for reading! :wink:
Re: ABBA 76/77 versus ABBA 81/82!
Maxi-saxi - 07.02.2007, 05:21
Well said Carribean,
Like you I have the same feelings. The changes each Member went through, except Benny, I feel ABBA Songs grew up from 1979, Bjorn as a writer especally became more mature I suppose in lyric writing.
And it is fair to say there Divorces were played oput so to speak in some of their songs.
One Of Us, When All Is Said And Done & of course The Winner Takes It All.
Slipping Through My Fingers.
I love their later material although I still Love The earlier songs from 1973 to 1977.
My favourite ABBA recording is The Visitors.
Looking back it is very hard to believe where the time went to during those fabulous ABBA years.
Maxi-saxi :wink:
Re: ABBA 76/77 versus ABBA 81/82!
Anonymous - 07.02.2007, 09:23
I also feel the same way. Before I got the Complete Studio Recordings box set, the one disc in the TYFTM box set that I listened to the most was disc 1.
Re: ABBA 76/77 versus ABBA 81/82!
George - 07.02.2007, 11:22
Periods
For me the real purple patch was SOS through to Abba the Album
G x
Re: ABBA 76/77 versus ABBA 81/82!
andy2k4 - 07.02.2007, 11:35
ALthough I really enjoy listening to their music from the 76/77 period, especially songs from "the album", I think I prefer their later work from a musical point of view.
Arrival has always been a little too lightweight IMO, and although fun and pleasing to listen to, I think a lot of the songs could be considered disposable.
The Album, I think, manages to bridge the gap between arrival and super trouper. ABBA are maturing, but I don't think that they are yet, until super trouper, that they are at their musical best.
Super Trouper is probably my favourite album, and I adore ST as a song.Our last summer, On and On, The Winner, Andante, Happy New Year, all great to my ears! The visitors has a couple of songs I don't care for (Like an Angel, soldiers), but for the most part it is ABBA at their musical best (yes, evn TFTPOO). And the 1982 recordings, I dont think ABBA ever topped themselves!
Image wise, I also prefer "mature" ABBA. The Silly cosumes were fun, but a little distracting. In the 80s we have a much better look, and who cares if they are not all happy couples any more? This added a new dimension to the group.
Well, sorry for a slightly unthoughtout response, but I am late for work and must dash! :lol:
Re: ABBA 76/77 versus ABBA 81/82!
jenlovesabba1982 - 07.02.2007, 12:08
Re: ABBA 76/77 versus ABBA 81/82!
Carribean wrote: Hi!
Working on my picture blogs it once more is clear to me that the ABBA from the eighties is very different from the ABBA during their heyday.
In 76/77 ABBA were two happy couples on top of the world with bouncy popsongs: Dancing Queen, That's Me, Money Money Money and so on. They were enthousiastic and in a charming way naive.
The costumes were less over the top but still very amusing and the girls looked amazing.
In 81/82 ABBA were four individuals singing about divorces, fears of war and sadness: The Winner Takes It All, The Visitors, Like An Angel Passing Through My Room and so on. They seemed to have seen it all and made the impression that they were fed up.
The costumes were gone, so was the long hair; it made the girls look older and wiser.
When I look at the pics from these periods I cannot believe that just 5 years went by. It is hard to imagine that these are the same four individuals. (Luckily Benny never changed his look... lol!)
Although I am very fond of their later work (Our Last Summer, The Day Before You Came, Like An Angel Passing Through My Room, Lay All Your Love On Me...) it is the 'happy' ABBA that is closest to my heart. Songs like Move On, That's Me, Eagle and When I Kissed The Teacher can still lift up my spirits like no other music can.
Any thoughts? Thanks for reading! :wink: IHAVE TO AGREE ALHTOUGH THEIR SOUND GOT BETTER AS WENT GOT MORE MATURE AND WISE ALTHOUGH IN SAYING THAT WHEN FIRST STARTED OUT MORE FUN AND HAPPY SOUNDING MUSIC ! PLUS WHEN U GET DIVORCED U TEND TO CHANCE YOUR LOOK ANYWAY ! PLUS THEY WHERE ALL MOVING ON TOO MOVING WQITH TIMES AS WELL ! BENNY STILL LOOKS SAME AS HE DID THEN ! I WONDER IF EVER CHANCED HIS LOOK ! OH WAIT HE DID WHEN HE WAS IN HEPSTARS HE HAD FLOPPY HAIR AND NO BEARED! LOL
Re: ABBA 76/77 versus ABBA 81/82!
Carribean - 07.02.2007, 12:18
Re: ABBA 76/77 versus ABBA 81/82!
jenlovesabba1982 wrote:
IHAVE TO AGREE ALHTOUGH THEIR SOUND GOT BETTER AS WENT GOT MORE MATURE AND WISE ALTHOUGH IN SAYING THAT WHEN FIRST STARTED OUT MORE FUN AND HAPPY SOUNDING MUSIC ! PLUS WHEN U GET DIVORCED U TEND TO CHANCE YOUR LOOK ANYWAY ! PLUS THEY WHERE ALL MOVING ON TOO MOVING WQITH TIMES AS WELL ! BENNY STILL LOOKS SAME AS HE DID THEN ! I WONDER IF EVER CHANCED HIS LOOK ! OH WAIT HE DID WHEN HE WAS IN HEPSTARS HE HAD FLOPPY HAIR AND NO BEARED! LOL
Jen: thanks for your reply! However writing in capitals is considered shouting. So please use the 'normal' ones next time!
Thanks! :wink:
Re: ABBA 76/77 versus ABBA 81/82!
Fire&Ice - 07.02.2007, 14:27
Oh dear! It is just like asking me to choose one of my children - an older and a younger one!
I'd go for the more uplifting and "making me happy" tunes of 77 but I listen to the more mature songs with the same eagerness. I don't find them as gloomy as they have been presented.
Can't choose! :?
Re: ABBA 76/77 versus ABBA 81/82!
drimnagh - 07.02.2007, 15:49
I can't choose either! I like both periods for different reasons. HAPPY ABBA v SAD ABBA? :wink: Well, there was always a thread of melancholy running thru their songs, (think SOS) and by the '80's this was given full rein you could say.
Joe
Re: ABBA 76/77 versus ABBA 81/82!
restareabear - 07.02.2007, 17:38
I read somewhere, that someone (Stig? Michael Tretow? Carl M. Palm?) said that the members of ABBA advanced musically faster than the generation that was listening to them on the radio (well, it was something like that--it's been awhile!), which is one reason why their AOR popularity waned in the later years. Basically, it appeared that the group grew about 3-5 years in maturity and sound with each (yearly) release. I remember discussing, at great length while in college with some serious ABBA fans, the same thing. Each album relected a much more mature group both in looks and sound. When "The Visitors" was released, we all sensed that the LP was a larger than usual leap from their prior work ("Super Trouper").
We also sensed, just by looking at the pictures and listening to the words and style of music, that "something was up". We weren't sure what, but sometime you just a get a gut feeling about things. Back in the seventies, 7 LPs were about the average run of a major hit group before calling it quits or fading away, and that may have enhanced the feeling.
Of course, I'll admit, we didn't "get" the angel motif of the art work. We thought they were making an artistic statement, saying they felt this work belonged right alongside the historically great masters of art. We didn't disagree either! We just interpreted it as a "final" statement from the group: they knew who they were and felt they had finally "arrived", and achieved the ultimate in success. Our interpretation was, therefore, where else do you go and what else do you do after that?
Had they stayed together and followed their maturing trend, I believe it would have been awesome! Little did we know at the time, but major pop artists of the day were going to soon (or later, as the case may be), cross musical genres as they matured and still be respected and often-listened to. Linda Ronstadt, Pat Benetar, Toni Tennille, Barry Manilow, all 1970s superstars crossed over into other areas once they "outgrew" the AOR music that was so popular at the time. Imagine the production work we'd have seen from ABBA, not to mention the sound if they'd have done that!
Re: ABBA 76/77 versus ABBA 81/82!
jacko10 - 07.02.2007, 18:34
No I can't choose either really, I love both sides of abba from the ''ditty'' songs to the more mature themes. its a bit like watching an older sibling mature, we saw them come from the likes of, ''what about livingstone'' and end with ''the day before you came'', both types of songs brilliant and both equal of respect in my eyes, as with all the songs
Good thred though Carribean
Jack
Re: ABBA 76/77 versus ABBA 81/82!
marco-esteban - 07.02.2007, 19:39
Up to me ABBA were at their best during the 1975 to 1978 years. Their songs from all these years are my favorites, and I also think that they are so successful mainly because of all their works from this period.
Many fans would say that "The Visitors" is their best album meaning the most mature, seeing it as an achievement. I understand them but I don't share their point of view though. Even if "The Visitors" IS a very good album when it comes to the quality of the compositions, the vocals and harmonies and the recordings, to me it was a very disappointing album when it was released in 1981. I liked ABBA for their happiness, their colours, the fresh air their music was bringing to me. And this album was so full of darkness, at a period of my life when I really needed something brighter, that I really thought that it was my less favorite of all. It still is.
OK, on a musical point of view it IS a good record. But not what real ABBA fans expected from them. There really was something near from depression in this album.
1982 was a very good ABBA year for me : all the songs they recorded (the 4 ones from the 2 last singles) were really very good, I liked them very much, some of them almost as catchy as their greatest hits of the golden years.
Re: ABBA 76/77 versus ABBA 81/82!
Hades - 07.02.2007, 19:43
Very interesting topic. I also think the image ABBA had when they were still two couples had something magic. It is also the image that is still remembered most. There was also a difference in the way they presented themselves. They were more enthusiastic, all heading in the same direction and unified in their eagerness to conquer the world.
Of course, they still made terrific records in the eighties. And as much as I love the "The Visitors" album, it was still a pity that the joint multi-harmony vocals had disappeared for the most part. This was not music for a young, pop audience anymore.
I remember the premiere of the "One of us" video here on TV when it was announced with: 'you won't believe your eyes'. Indeed, all members looked considerably older than they were.
I also wonder if it was on purpose that so few singles were released from the last 2 albums. ABBA was no longer willing to do lots of promotion for them. As far as I know they didn't perform any of the singles from "The Visitors" and almost immediately withdrew from group activity after the albums release.
Personally I don't think ABBA could have gone on any longer. In the interview for "The Story of ABBA" in November 1982, Benny said that he didn't think there was anything left to achieve. And that was even before the "Under Attack" single was released.
Re: ABBA 76/77 versus ABBA 81/82!
agnetha_andrea - 07.02.2007, 20:34
Great topic, Carribean! :D
Really, I can't choose between the two periods. I like ABBA since they began until the end. Although not all their songs are superb, they improved over and over the years. And like any other group, the tried different sounds and styles.
About the music. There are great songs and hits during the 76/77 period such as: Dancing Queen, Knowing Me Knowing You, The Name Of The Game... just to name a few. But definitively, The Visitors is the best ABBA album. Songs like One Of Us, The Visitors and I Let The Music Speak are masterpieces. Björn and Benny made their best compositions, also Agnetha and Frida's voices are superb.
But I prefer the ABBA from 76/77. They were two happy couples who were very enthusiastic and young; the fact that they were in love made them an special group. On the other hand, ABBA from 81/82 are not so happy anymore, divorced, older and only together for business (the love for making music was gone).
Love,
Andrea :wink:
Re: ABBA 76/77 versus ABBA 81/82!
philzone - 07.02.2007, 20:44
if i have to choose, i would select 76/77 but there are times when the later songs are what i need to hear. you need both eras to have true Abba balance.
phil
Re: ABBA 76/77 versus ABBA 81/82!
Belinda_sm - 07.02.2007, 21:46
Carribean wrote:
Quote: When I look at the pics from these periods I cannot believe that just 5 years went by. It is hard to imagine that these are the same four individuals.
That is so true.
Musically they reached their best during the early 80`s
but i still prefer the 70`s period.
Re: ABBA 76/77 versus ABBA 81/82!
Anonymous - 08.02.2007, 08:51
andy2k4 wrote: The Album, I think, manages to bridge the gap between arrival and super trouper.
What about Voulez-vous?
Re: ABBA 76/77 versus ABBA 81/82!
Carribean - 08.02.2007, 23:04
Thanks so much for the interesting views.
To make things clear: I listen to most ABBA songs but sometimes I am in the mood for the happy early stuff and other times I like to listen to the more serious stuff and I enjoy them all.
Re: ABBA 76/77 versus ABBA 81/82!
abbascots - 08.02.2007, 23:18
Hi Carribean
My favourite period at the moment is from 1980 onwards this is the Abba period that i remember,The winner takes it all and Souper trouper are two of the first Abba songs i remember hearing from childhood i think as im getting older i like listening to there last song's more often,I do go through periods when i listen too early Abba also so maybe its a mixture of both periods,For me Abba's latter albums where more mature and more indepth Abba's earlier work was more schlarger happier music so basicly i think it depends on my mood as to what i like listening too at certain times as it varies :wink:
Regards johnsteven
Re: ABBA 76/77 versus ABBA 81/82!
Toni - 10.02.2007, 14:10
My eyes say: ABBA 1976/77 look best!
My ears say: ABBA from 1970 - 1982 sound best!
Toni :wink:
Re: ABBA 76/77 versus ABBA 81/82!
Carribean - 14.02.2007, 23:50
Thanks Johnsteven and Toni!
More comments?
:wink:
Re: ABBA 76/77 versus ABBA 81/82!
platobird - 15.02.2007, 09:05
There's isn't an ABBA song that I don't like, although I had to aquire a taste for some of them. Once I got past the first sip, I became ravenous.
I've imagined that ABBA had to proceed carefully at first (73-76) and stay in the mainstream to build a following. Later (77-82), being more sure of themselves, they could experiment, branch out and try different things. Songs like Eagle, Soldiers and The Piper displayed their growing talents.
Frida's Andante, Andante (1980) is the sexiest song ever, although I think you need to have played in an orchestra to appreciate the title. No one has done this song as fine as Frida, and I wish they had made a video for it.
PB
Re: ABBA 76/77 versus ABBA 81/82!
de solere - 15.02.2007, 20:56
abba in two periods
hello carribean,
You know, when i see all pictures of my family and friends between 1976/77 and 1982/83, the looks are very different; the fashion in the eighties was more old, for the women like a working girl (not very sexy like in the seventies) and for the men, the dress were very serious.
In this both period, Abba had a beautiful professionnal evolution with a music more sophisticated, personal and often majestic; the same for the lyrics and the interpretations by Frida or Agnetha.
I've always think that after a little interruption, the band could be recorded news beautiful records, meanwhile they had solo careers and separate private life.
In an interview, in 1984, Frida said that she was ok for working again with the others members from Abba.
At this time, i never really found the pictures or the clips or the songs sad because i thought that Abba will never end.
Best regards,
Pierre
Re: ABBA 76/77 versus ABBA 81/82!
PeopleNeedLove - 16.02.2007, 00:25
76-77, and to me, there's really not a debate.
In my humble opinion, ABBF had really had enough by the end. I was watching them perform Cassandra on Kultnacht recently, and they just looked like they didn't care. Yeah, A/F were dancing/swaying etc, but it looked so forced and scripted. Compare it to So Long 77, for instance, which was also choreographed, of course- but didn't they look like they were "into" it more??
I just get the feeling they were "done" by 82, and they weren't "having fun anymore," as Bjorn put it on Noel Edmunds 82. And that, to me, takes away from the experience.........
Plus, the music from Arrival/The Album runs laps around The Visitors/82. Besides Move On (*cue John/Gill/Ron screaming rant towards me* :P ), there's not a bad song on either album.........
76/77 it is-
Matt
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Anonymous - 16.02.2007, 09:21
PeopleNeedLove wrote: Plus, the music from Arrival/The Album runs laps around The Visitors/82. Besides Move On (*cue John/Gill/Ron screaming rant towards me* :P ), there's not a bad song on either album
:shock: There's not a bad song on either album, period.
Re: ABBA 76/77 versus ABBA 81/82!
PeopleNeedLove - 16.02.2007, 12:58
I don't care for Move On; I've related that here before.
And I'm not really into 2 For The Price of 1 and One of Us on The Visitors, and as much as I'm into the 82 stuff recently, they IMO don't measure up to Arrival/The Album.
You're entitled to your opinion, of course- but I'm assuming I'm still entitled to mine..........:wink:
Matt
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ABBAnator - 16.02.2007, 13:30
PeopleNeedLove wrote: And I'm not really into 2 For The Price of 1 and One of Us on The Visitors, and as much as I'm into the 82 stuff recently, they IMO don't measure up to Arrival/The Album.
You're entitled to your opinion, of course- but I'm assuming I'm still entitled to mine..........:wink:
Matt
Didn't you get the memo Matt? Your not entitled to an opinion. :P j/k Although The Visitors is (subject to change without prior notice) my favorite album, One Of Us was never one of my favorite tracks on it either (although I like it).
Ron,
I personally don't have a favorite period. Although I think The Visitors is my (current) favorite album, the later 81-82 period isn't necessarily my favorite. As others have said it really depends on the mood. Sometimes I prefer the 72-74 era (RingRIng/Waterloo), light-hearted, sometimes goofy lyrics but alot of fun, feel good music. Sometimes I feel like the 76-79 (Arrival/Voulez-Vous) more dance oriented music. And other times I'm more inclined to listen to the more mature 80-82 period (SuperTrouper/The Visitors). Sometimes all in the same day! :D
Image wise, I don't really have a favorite either (although I was never fond of Agnetha and Fridas "poodle doos" in 80-81). The goofy costumes of the early days never bothered me as I lived through the "glam rock" period and it wasn't really strange in those days (even though the critics use this to lambaste them).
Cheers,
Bruce 8)
Re: ABBA 76/77 versus ABBA 81/82!
Carribean - 16.02.2007, 21:39
PeopleNeedLove wrote: You're entitled to your opinion, of course- but I'm assuming I'm still entitled to mine..........:wink:
Matt
You really think so Matt??
:wink:
Re: ABBA 76/77 versus ABBA 81/82!
Anonymous - 17.02.2007, 09:45
All kidding aside, of course Matt is entitled to his opinion. I certainly didn't mean to suggest otherwise.
Re: ABBA 76/77 versus ABBA 81/82!
Richard - 17.02.2007, 14:55
Interesting topic... Mmm... It's funny and curious to see how they changed in 5 years, especially the girls: almost just after the divorces, they changed their look. When you get separated from your couple, you want to change almost everything: the look, some habits, you wanna do things you couldn't when you had that couple... That A&F change was like telling: "Ok, I have to move on, now I can do things I like freely...".
It's sad to see the sadness around them between 1981 and 1982, especially in Frida: She just got divorced and, somehow, she doesn't look as good as before.
As I told before, I like the 1976 & 1977 images 'cause they look so shiny, so happy and enthusiasmed, you can see it not only on pics, you can see it in their videos, interviews... But, at the same time, it's interesting to see and compare the change of mood and look in those 5 years...
Now, talking about music, I love "The Visitors" album, I think is the best, for me... but there's something about "Arrival" that I love: the happy lyrics, the styles of music... I feel happy when I listen to the songs and see how they were so inspirated at that time... But, at the end, both albums are very very good, it show us different perspectives of ABBA, and it's nice to know how the environment in them are perfectly showed in the songs. At the end, I love ABBA and everything about them.
Re: ABBA 76/77 versus ABBA 81/82!
Carribean - 23.02.2007, 04:02
Thanks PB, Pierre, Matt, Zeebee, Bruce and Richard for your interesting comments!
:wink:
Re: ABBA 76/77 versus ABBA 81/82!
kitty-cat - 23.02.2007, 12:42
Sometimes when I listen to early classics like My Mamma Said and Tropical Loveland, etc. and then Dancing Queen and The Name Of The GAme, through to The Winner Takes It All and When All is said and done, and finally the fantastic The Day Before You Came, it is hard to believe it is the same group, or the same writers. I love all the songs but some of the early ones sound so raw and ameturish compared to the later songs. But i still cant chose a favouite, they are all special in their own rights!!
Gill xx
Re: ABBA 76/77 versus ABBA 81/82!
ABBAngeleyes - 28.02.2007, 20:24
It is a difficult elejir between these importants periods
The first one, between 76/77 marks the golden epoch of ABBA, the international recognition and that of the big international tours, the happy and vivacious music, with soft tones in a hot environment and plecentero to work and that of a simple and recognizable lyricism, since your important hits more in this period, are easily recognized in spite of only naming your titles and your unmistakable sound, already is DQ, Fernando, Money, Money, Money, TACOM, TNOTG, KMKY, Eagle, WIKTT or TYFTM. Indisputable pearls of the world pop.
For another side the period is 81/82, the period of both personal and musical maturity, in this loaded period of sentimentalism and stressed for the consecutive divorces, us reveals a great variety of sounds and a more complex and large lyricism, to fit with this new profile of mature group; Though the big concerts stay behind, now the work produces better benefits. Your intimists and sentimental songs are hits immediate for the heart, with topics already not so happy, as the dislike and the sadness. It is like that TWTIA, OOU, The Visitors, WAISAD, TDBYC, Under Attack, SILOC, STMF or the mistery enclosed in Just Like That, demonstrates in you are magnifies reveilles of the world pop, which ABBA has changed.
Undoubtedly, it gives same the period, already be from the prehistoric one 72, up to the modern one 82, or mas still up to the contemporanie of the new millenium, nonetheless ABBA continues being the better group and that us deliver best of the music.
Good it is quite
Good-bye ABBAfanatics
ABBAngeleyes
Re: ABBA 76/77 versus ABBA 81/82!
Polargirl - 01.03.2007, 01:13
I really prefer the earlier days. They seem to bring back memories of being happy and carefree and the band at their absolute best. I think a good marker of how the band changed in a short time was the differences between the tours. In '77 - happy, joyous, incredibly energised stage performances, dazzling costumes. The '79 tour seemed to me to have a maudlin quality to it. Seemed a bit like going through the motions somewhat. So I would say the early years I prefer. 1975 to early 1979. For me it all started going downhill when the girls cut their hair just before the '79 tour. :wink:
Re: ABBA 76/77 versus ABBA 81/82!
drimnagh - 01.03.2007, 16:58
Upon further reflection... it's the earlier years for me although they produced some of their finest work later...
After the divorce(s) a light seemed to go out in the group and in Frida especially you could see the pain and anquish in her face and this was hard to stomach for us die hard fans who thought they'd remain happy couples forever..(Welcome to the real world, Joe! lol)- it gave us some of their best ever work and of course eventually Frida got that shine back in her eyes but by this time they had grown irretrievably apart. So, although I love love love The Visitors and Super Trouper albums as they give me lots of angst to wallow in, it is the earlier, happier, 'When I Kissed The Teacher' days that my soul dances to the most.
But I wouldn't be without either periods for all the tea in China as this is what makes ABBA's music so compelling.
Joe
Re: ABBA 76/77 versus ABBA 81/82!
Carribean - 06.03.2007, 00:07
Thank you all for your comments!
:wink:
Re: ABBA 76/77 versus ABBA 81/82!
Maxi-saxi - 06.03.2007, 07:47
Yes I agree with Carribean some very interesting comments made.
Cheers
Maxi-saxi :wink:
Re: ABBA 76/77 versus ABBA 81/82!
jenlovesabba1982 - 07.03.2007, 23:19
Re: ABBA 76/77 versus ABBA 81/82!
[quote="Carribean"][quote="jenlovesabba1982"]
IHAVE TO AGREE ALHTOUGH THEIR SOUND GOT BETTER AS WENT GOT MORE MATURE AND WISE ALTHOUGH IN SAYING THAT WHEN FIRST STARTED OUT MORE FUN AND HAPPY SOUNDING MUSIC ! PLUS WHEN U GET DIVORCED U TEND TO CHANCE YOUR LOOK ANYWAY ! PLUS THEY WHERE ALL MOVING ON TOO MOVING WQITH TIMES AS WELL ! BENNY STILL LOOKS SAME AS HE DID THEN ! I WONDER IF EVER CHANCED HIS LOOK ! OH WAIT HE DID WHEN HE WAS IN HEPSTARS HE HAD FLOPPY HAIR AND NO BEARED! LOL[/quote]
Jen: thanks for your reply! However writing in capitals is considered shouting. So please use the 'normal' ones next time!
sorry i forgot i was on caps oh so very sorry :oops: :lol: didn't mean to shout
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