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Re: The Mamas And The Papas

Carribean - 09.01.2007, 02:12
The Mamas And The Papas
Hi!

Well I love The Mamas And The Papas!

They just recorded for a few years in the mid sixties but released some great songs like California Dreamin' (one of the best songs ever in my opinion), Monday Monday and Dream A Little Dream Of Me.

They were sort of the ABBA of their day being two guys, two girls singing great harmonies!

Any opinions? :wink:

Re: The Mamas And The Papas

abbascots - 09.01.2007, 02:46

Hi Carribean i love Calafornia dreaming and Monday Monday,Not so long ago there was a documentory on sky uk and it featured Mamas and Papas it was fab it had john philips on it, No matter what type of mood you may be in Calafornia dreaming always seems to make you happy,Words of love is also a great song
Regards johnsteven

Re: The Mamas And The Papas

Anonymous - 09.01.2007, 07:53

Are you sure Dream A Little Dream Of Me was by The Mamas and the Papas, and not a Mama Cass solo recording?

Re: The Mamas And The Papas

merton - 09.01.2007, 09:16

Another great group from the past. I'm in a very retro mood tonight!

I especially like Creeque Alley. Damn catchy and fun. I think though that without Mama Cass on the records, they would have lost something with their music. She had an extraordinary voice, that soared above the heavens. Such a tragedy she was lost so early.

There was an English movie, I think it was called Beautiful Thing about a couple of teenagers living in an council estate and a lot of Mamma Cass's music was used, which really gave the movie a nice touch, especially as it was a bit dark at times....

Cheers Merton

Re: The Mamas And The Papas

Carribean - 09.01.2007, 10:49

Zeebee wrote: Are you sure Dream A Little Dream Of Me was by The Mamas and the Papas, and not a Mama Cass solo recording?

Yep it is on the album The Papas And The Mamas (cheesy title) from 1968!

Re: The Mamas And The Papas

Anonymous - 09.01.2007, 14:29

Until the end of last year, I hadn't listened to much Mamas and Papas.
But thanks to a couple of guys on this site. I now have a good collection of their most popular hits. Really good group and what a great sound they make.

Monday, Monday- California Dreamin' - Somebody Groovy - Dedicated To The One I Love - People Like Us. To name but a few

Re: The Mamas And The Papas

Fire&Ice - 09.01.2007, 15:06

I like California Dreaming a lot.

Re: The Mamas And The Papas

jacko10 - 09.01.2007, 16:37

Another fanstatic Group

I love Dream a Little dream of Me..Look through my Window.. Move in a little Closer..Creeque Alley



Brilliant

Jack

Re: The Mamas And The Papas

Toni - 09.01.2007, 18:47

Yes this is also a group that I like very much. Two ladies and two men, like in the group ABBA. Their melodies sound great and I like their voices, too.

One of my favourite songs is "Safe In My Garden", and the songs you mentioned, Ron, are real pop classics. I love them!


Toni :thumbup:

Re: The Mamas And The Papas

Carribean - 09.01.2007, 21:20

My 10 favorite songs:

California Dreamin'
Mansions
Safe In My Garden
Go Where You Wanna Go
People Like Us
Dream A Little Dream Of Me
Strange Young Girls
Creeque Alley
Did You Ever Want To Cry
Twelve Thirty

:band:

Re: The Mamas And The Papas

Bobbysbrother - 09.01.2007, 21:47

California Dreamin' is a milestone, makes you fly. I guess Mamas And Papas is that kind of group that is always echoing in your ears everytime you think about *that* certain time in music...the late 60's. I dont have much knowledge Im afraid and would love to learn more really.. But Im fond of their "Make Your Own Kind Of Music"!

PS "Dream a little dream" has ALWAYS been one of my fav songs ever of all times and I miss the M&P version, how come?!? Acch!! :?

Andrea

Re: The Mamas And The Papas

Pabs - 10.01.2007, 12:11

The world would be very different today had Mama Cass only given her ham sandwich to Karen Carpenter!

Sorry :roll:

Re: The Mamas And The Papas

artemis - 10.01.2007, 14:02

bad taste!

my favourite songs are california dreaming, monday monday, you baby, i saw her there, the age of aquarius and spanish harlem. dream a little dream is great, the beautiful south's version is the only one that can match up to the original IMO

Re: The Mamas And The Papas

DESIGNER - 10.01.2007, 15:35
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Hello every one, growing up as a teen and owing all these records I had
no idea that the same artists that I was playing and listening to that some one on the other side of the world was doing the samething.
I own the documentory, I was looking for an in concert dvd but they did not have one so I bought the documentory. right and wrong, Dream a Little Dream of Me was put on the I believe the last album of the Mamas & Papas when Mama Cass decided to go out on her own it was a singe with her name on it, not the Mamas&Papas.

Re: The Mamas And The Papas

Carribean - 10.01.2007, 20:15

Pabs wrote: The world would be very different today had Mama Cass only given her ham sandwich to Karen Carpenter!

Sorry :roll:

Very sorry to read that remark; bad taste indeed!

Re: The Mamas And The Papas

Carribean - 10.01.2007, 20:20

Bobbysbrother wrote: California Dreamin' is a milestone, makes you fly.

But Im fond of their "Make Your Own Kind Of Music"!




Agree with your remark about California Dreamin'!

Make Your Own Kind Of Music by the way is a solo by Mama Cass.

:wink:

Re: The Mamas And The Papas

Belinda_sm - 10.01.2007, 22:25

Awwww
I love them :love4:

California Dreaming
Blowing in the wind
and Words of love so soft and tender

i'm not an expert but i like them very much

Re: The Mamas And The Papas

Anonymous - 11.01.2007, 07:22

Pabs wrote: The world would be very different today had Mama Cass only given her ham sandwich to Karen Carpenter!

Sorry :roll:

That story about Mama Cass choking on a sandwich is not true. She died of a heart attack.

Ron, you're right about Make Your Own Kind Of Music, but I was right about Dream A Little Dream Of Me-both are Mama Cass solo recordings.

Re: The Mamas And The Papas

Carribean - 11.01.2007, 11:42

Zeebee wrote: Pabs wrote: The world would be very different today had Mama Cass only given her ham sandwich to Karen Carpenter!

Sorry :roll:

That story about Mama Cass choking on a sandwich is not true. She died of a heart attack.

Ron, you're right about Make Your Own Kind Of Music, but I was right about Dream A Little Dream Of Me-both are Mama Cass solo recordings.

Sorry but you are wrong: Dream A Little Dream was recorded by The Mamas And The Papas. Again: It is on the 1968 album The Papas And The Mamas.
Since Cass wanted to go solo it was released as Mama Cass and The Mamas And The Papas but it was very much a group effort: John and Lou Adler producing and as backing with Michelle and Denny.

http://music.yahoo.com/release/25443

Cass did indeed die of heartfailure so you are right there.

Re: The Mamas And The Papas

artemis - 11.01.2007, 19:24

and she was jewish so she shouldn't have been eating a ham sandwich in the first place ;)

Re: The Mamas And The Papas

merton - 12.01.2007, 21:36

Carribean

Thanks for raising this topic, it's reminded me how good the Mamas and the Papas were. After the work week from hell finishing with a workmate passing away unexpectedly, I felt like life seemed very dark.

So I dug out my Mamas/Papas CD this morning and it was so nice to hear their great harmonies.....And hearing Mamma Cass on Make Your Own Kind of Music and It's Getting Better reminded me that there is always another side to the coin, even if it flips up on the wrong side a few times......Cheers M

Re: The Mamas And The Papas

Anonymous - 12.01.2007, 22:06

Monday Monday
so good to me!
I love that song !

And California Dreaming is an evergreen. Btw, what do you think of the Beach Boys version of the song?

I don't know any of their other songs that well so I cannot recognize them by titles. If I heard them, I might know the songs.

Anne

Re: The Mamas And The Papas

Carribean - 18.01.2007, 03:51

Here are some The Mamas And The Papas links on You Tube:

California Dreamin' at the beginning of their career in 1966:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-9E6dhMSI14

Creeque Alley (live) describing how they all started in music (And no ones getting fat except Mama Cass... lol) in 1967:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BDx4A2coKiY

Dedicaded To The One I Love in 1967:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WcLNYqITUD0

Monday Monday, I Call Your Name and California Dreamin'; goofing around on stage (Michelle with a banana...) at the end of their short career in 1968:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lmZL-71yITs

I hope you like it! :wink:

Re: The Mamas And The Papas

kristinafan - 18.01.2007, 07:44

Thanks for the links! Great.
California Dreaming, Monday, Monday and Dream a little dream belong to my favourite songs :-)

Maggi

Re: The Mamas And The Papas

Maxi-saxi - 19.01.2007, 05:15

Liked some of there songs, thanks for the links

Maxi-saxi

Re: The Mamas And The Papas

Carribean - 20.01.2007, 06:46

Sad news: Papa Denny Doherty just passed away at age 66.

Michelle Phillips at age 62 is the only surviving member of The Mamas And The Papas.

Mama Cass died in 1974 at age 32 and John Phillips was 65 when he passed away in 2001.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/16712089/

Re: The Mamas And The Papas

abbascots - 20.01.2007, 11:35

Sorry to Hear this sad news Carribean
johnsteven

Re: The Mamas And The Papas

Cabbadian - 22.01.2007, 16:16

I am a huge Mammas and Pappas fan. I got in to the Mammas and the Pappas in the late 80s (yes, well after the fact!). I remember it was the same time I went to California to visit my cousins. I played their greatest hits cassette (cassette!) over and over. It was a great time and I always associate it with the Mam's and Pap's.

I always thought it was a hoot that they were the ultimate USA, hippie, California-type band - and yet Denny was from East coast Canada!

RIP Denny.

Michelle's the last one standing. She said she would be in an interview she did on Canadian TV a couple of years ago! She was great on the U.S. prime-time soap "Knots Landing".

x

Re: The Mamas And The Papas

drimnagh - 23.01.2007, 18:42

Their music is used to good effect in a film called 'Beautiful Thing'. Yes, they were the ABBA of their day.

Joe

Re: The Mamas And The Papas

Anonymous - 10.04.2007, 17:20

is this program on dvd? and if so were can i get it?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yz06HcJ8oXc
http://www.youtube.com/watchv=9moO8ATRAUA&mode=related&search=
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cofn2XXA05g&mode=related&search=
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B86opNEL8l8&mode=related&search=
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CySM6aDkd-U&mode=related&search=
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7OVusExUM08&mode=related&search=
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RHAXfqPLLug&mode=related&search=

Re: The Mamas And The Papas

Carribean - 11.04.2007, 00:03

Yes this is what the cover looks like.



I got it at a music shop in Rome but I am sure it will also be available on line. :wink:

Re: The Mamas And The Papas

Clock_With_Lemon - 11.04.2007, 07:05

I'm listening to The Mamas & the Papas RIGHT NOW! I got a CD of them a few weeks ago, and I love it!

Re: The Mamas And The Papas

Anonymous - 11.04.2007, 15:43

http://www.AMAZON.com/Mamas-Papas-California-Dreamin/dp/B0007QCGX6/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1/104-5742779-1205519?ie=UTF8&s=dvd&qid=1176302490&sr=1-1

do you mean this?

Re: The Mamas And The Papas

George - 16.04.2007, 14:00
More Mamas & Papas
THis one is very Abbe-esque and was used in Lost when they went into the hatch

Make Your Own Kind of Music
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C3f3D7GWTFA

G x

Re: The Mamas And The Papas

Toni - 29.05.2009, 23:09

Here they are with "Safe in My Garden"

Link

Re: The Mamas And The Papas

abbarich - 13.01.2011, 18:49

I've only just found this thread! I LOVE the Mamas and the Papas. They were the second best group of the 60s, after The Beatles. As I'm typing this I'm actually listening to them sing Safe in my Garden on the Complete Anthology box set of 4 cds. My Xmas present to myself! I can now give the old vinyl a rest!
Their harmonies were gorgeous. And so inventive. TM&TP were before my time. ABBA was my time, and I remember Bjorn mentioning them and saying they were a major influence for ABBA in the early days. That got my attention, so I spent ages listening out for them on the radio. I finally heard Dedicated to the one I love and loved it immediately. I rushed out to buy the 20 Greatest Hits. I loved all the tracks, but California Dreamin was the one that hit me. I remember jumping up in the armchair as that wonderful sound hit me. It will always be in my favourite top 10 tracks of all time. TM&TP were pioneers, and maybe we would have had no ABBA if they had not appeared to create that 2 male, 2 female lineup. HIYB in particular sounds like TM&TP. They were here so briefly, just 2 years, but they left a wonderful legacy of ageless music behind. 8) 8) Rich. x

Re: The Mamas And The Papas

onlyabba4me - 15.01.2011, 12:50

I too love the Mamas & The Papas.

Here they are singing 'My Heart Stood Still'. It is off their
2nd Album, 'The Mamas & The Papas' (1966). It is a Richard
Rodgers & Lorenz Hart song, from 1927! They composed it
for the 1927 Musical, 'A Connecticut Yankee'.

Notice how complex the Mamas & Papas harmonies are.
Also - I think that the Guys have better voices than Benny
& Bjorn - so all 4 of the Group can sing very well:,

Link

Then we have 'New World Coming', by Mama Cass. (1970).
It is a beautiful little Song, all about a better World/Earth coming,
for those who long for one:,

Link

Here is 'Make You Own Kind Of Music' (1969). Such a great voice.
A terrble pity that she died in July 1974 - aged just 32.

Link

And my favourite Mama Cass Single - 'It's Getting Better' (1969)

Link

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drimnagh - 15.01.2011, 13:08

:shock:

SECOND after The Beatles? I can't agree with that. What The Beatles lacked was FEMALE harmonies.. a group has to have that, imo, to be truly great. Well, that's how I feel anyhow. I tire of all male vocals easily.

ABBA, and The Mamas And The Papas, had it ALL.

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Carribean - 15.01.2011, 13:17

The Mamas and The Papas had it all: an amazing songwriter (John Phillips) who knew how to arrange harmonies, one of the best and most charismatic female singers of the 60's -if not ever- (Mama Cass), a very good tenor (Denny Doherty) and one very pretty singer/songwriter (Michelle Phillips).
Their image was pretty original and their harmonies out of this world.
Had they not had all the drama within the group they could have carried on for more years and would have been seen as one of the most influencial groups of the 60's, if not the!

Link

Re: The Mamas And The Papas

andrewlincs - 15.01.2011, 17:36

Mama Cass had a great voice and the group recorded some fantastic music x
Going to dig out my old vinyl collection of their Greatest Hits 'California Dreaming'

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billydog - 15.01.2011, 17:47

California dreaming is one of my all time favourite songs. It sums up the mood for a walk on a winters day absolutely perfectly.

S x

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onlyabba4me - 15.01.2011, 18:44

'California Dreaming' (1965), was a USA No.4 Hit.

It only reached No.23 in the UK, at first (1966).

In 1997 it was used in a UK TV Advert, & it was re-issued.
This time it was a No.9 Hit.

Re: The Mamas And The Papas

Carribean - 15.01.2011, 18:46

billydog wrote: California dreaming is one of my all time favourite songs. It sums up the mood for a walk on a winters day absolutely perfectly.

S x

One of my big faves of all time as well. The song is perfect!

Re: The Mamas And The Papas

billydog - 15.01.2011, 18:48

Carribean wrote:

One of my big faves of all time as well. The song is perfect!


It just sets a great mood for a walk on an autumn day in the uk. with all the trees shedding leaves and stuff, love it

S x

Re: The Mamas And The Papas

abbarich - 15.01.2011, 19:22

drimnagh wrote: :shock:

SECOND after The Beatles? I can't agree with that. What The Beatles lacked was FEMALE harmonies.. a group has to have that, imo, to be truly great. Well, that's how I feel anyhow. I tire of all male vocals easily.

ABBA, and The Mamas And The Papas, had it ALL.


If you're talking about the best vocal harmonising of the 60s, then no competition, it is TM&TP. I only place the Beatles above them as the best 60s group for the wonderful compositions of Lennon and McCartney, and not for their harmonising. The Beatles did harmonise very well on Rubber Soul, but TM&TP were in a league of their own when it came to complicated harmonies. I can't believe that John wouldn't let Cass join the group at first. She's one of the best female vocalists of all time. So glad he saw sense in the end! Rich.

Re: The Mamas And The Papas

Geordiegirl - 15.01.2011, 19:57

I love The Mamas & The Papas although I don't know everything they recorded.

IMO this is one of their best ever - very different from th Cliff version that is probably the best known here in the UK.

Link

Gill

Re: The Mamas And The Papas

drimnagh - 15.01.2011, 22:27

abbarich wrote:


If you're talking about the best vocal harmonising of the 60s, then no competition, it is TM&TP.

No, I simply PREFER the female voice~that's all. It's my bias. It is soothing to my ears whereas although I like 'some' male vocalists a lot, ultimately I find the male voice grating.

The Mamas And The Papas were awesome - it's just a preference thing. And if I had a choice to listen to The Beatles or Fleetwood Mac, then 'the Mac' would win every time. Sorry- 'random off topic'.

Without wanting to get into a The Beatles versus The Mamas And The Papas debate I think the latter divide people- (my mum couldn't stand The Beatles, for instance) whereas I think you'd be hard pressed to find someone who couldn't appreciate Mama Cass and their songs... on some level, at least.

Re: The Mamas And The Papas

billydog - 15.01.2011, 22:46

Link

Dedicated To The One I Love is probably my favourite track after California dreaming though I do like Monday Monday a lot too.
Posted this link as the others earlier weren't working

S x

Re: The Mamas And The Papas

Carribean - 15.01.2011, 23:23

billydog wrote: Dedicated To The One I Love

I love this performance!

Link

Re: The Mamas And The Papas

Carribean - 15.01.2011, 23:27

In Creeque Alley John & Michelle described how they all met.
And no one's getting fat except Mama Cass...

Link

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onlyabba4me - 16.01.2011, 21:20

'Dedicated To The One I Love', was originally a Single by USA Group,
'5' Royales, in 1957. In 1961, USA Girl Group, The Shirelles took it
to No.3 in the USA.

The Mamas & Papas version was a UK & USA No.2 Hit, in 1967.

Re: The Mamas And The Papas

onlyabba4me - 16.01.2011, 21:28

After Mama Cass left, Elaine 'Spanky' McFarlane joined the
Group - Singing Mama Cass's parts. Whilst her voice was not
as good, she still has a good voice.

She was from Spanky & Our Gang, whose biggest USA Hit
was, 'Sunday Will Never Be The Same' - No.9 (1967).
It is one of my favourite 'unknown hits' - as it was never
a Hit in the UK.

It is about a Woman who used to meet her lover in the Park each
Sunday, & they'd watch people feeding the birds & so on. One day,
they are no longer together. She still goes to the Park, but it does
not feel the same. All she has are beautiful memories:,

Link

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Carribean - 16.01.2011, 22:00

onlyabba4me wrote: After Mama Cass left, Elaine 'Spanky' McFarlane joined the
Group - Singing Mama Cass's parts. Whilst her voice was not
as good, she still has a good voice.

The Mamas and The Papas split in 1968 and reunited to make one last album for their record company in 1971. It was not until the 80's that John Phillips started a new group as The Mamas and The Papas.
Denny was in for some years but was later replaced by Scott McKenzie. Mama Cass had passed away and Michelle was not interested so two new women entered: Mackenzie Phillips and Spanky McFarlane.
I have heard some songs this new group did and I personally think it was terrible and had nothing to do with that magical hippy group of the 60's.

Here the group with just John as an original member, somewhere in the 80's.

Link

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abbarich - 16.01.2011, 22:41

Carribean wrote: I have heard some songs this new group did and I personally think it was terrible and had nothing to do with that magical hippy group of the 60's.


It's never a good idea to revive a classic group, with new members. TM&TP without Cass is unthinkable. :? You can't catch lightning twice in the same bottle. Rich.

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ABBAnator - 17.01.2011, 04:04

Carribean wrote: a very good tenor (Denny Doherty)
Indeed, a very underrated part of the group. Cass was such an outstanding singer that Denny rarely gets a mention it seems, however he sang lead on some of their biggest hits (California Dreaming, Monday Monday, etc). He didn't have a great range but had loads of style. :D

drimnagh wrote: I simply PREFER the female voice~that's all. It's my bias. It is soothing to my ears whereas although I like 'some' male vocalists a lot, ultimately I find the male voice grating.
I've been married for 24 years. The female voice can be quite grating at times as well, trust me ... :roll: :P

Bruce :lol:

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Anonymous - 17.01.2011, 13:01

Oh my Lord, I'm so happy this thread has been brought out of woodwork. I love TM&TP so much. There's a song called Too Late (off their fourth album I think) that I can't get enough of. They went a bit off the wall at that stage and the song sounds like a bunch of demos spliced together to make one track, but the harmony on the line, 'When the mind that once was open shuts' gives me stirrings I can't describe. My Heart Stood Still, Look Through My Window, Safe In My Garden, Even If I Could, Did You Ever Want To Cry and the mighty Words of Love are favourites too. I think the only songof theirs I actually dislike is Spanish Harlem. Oh, and I never listen to John's Music Box off the Deliver album... but then again, who does?

People give their reunion album a hard time, which I think is unfair. Sure, it had absolutely none of the chemistry (good or bad) or energy of their others, but it's still a wonderfully gentle bit of folky AOR, and pretty typical of the very early 1970's. But then again, as far as I'm concerned, if Cass is there, it's brilliant. Apart from both John and Denny's first solo albums, I have no interest whatsoever in post-Cass TM&TP activities eg: all the bizarre fake line-ups that have toured through the years as discussed above. And the less said about Michelle's solo albums, the better, bless her.

And Cass's solo stuff... wow. My favourite albums are Cass Elliot and The Road Is No Place For A Lady (Who In The World is one of my most favourite songs ever). The one she did with Dave Mason's pretty cool as well, although she's not much more than a backing singer on most of the tracks. Still a good album though... one of the few she actually wrote songs for.

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Geordiegirl - 17.01.2011, 19:39

lovepigeon wrote:
I think the only songof theirs I actually dislike is Spanish Harlem.

I'd forgotten Spanish Harlem, and it is a favourite of mine (sorry Jack), I've heard it by a few different artists & this is my favourite one.

Link
Gill

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abbarich - 17.01.2011, 19:52

Yes, I love Spanish Harlem too. The best version of this song I've ever heard. As well as being a talented songwriter, John Phillips was such a talented arranger that he took other people's material and moulded it to the sound of TM&TP and I think he made it so much better than the original. Dedicated to the one I love sounds nothing like The Shirelles original version. TM&TP created the definitive version. The first 4 LPs are classics that still sound great today. Even the 5th one PLU (the one they were forced to record) contains a few good tracks. A shame Cass was ill during the recording of it, and isn't as audibly visible as she usually was. I've loved TMATP since I discovered them in 1980 and virtually all of TM&TP material gives me a warm glow whenever I hear it. :) Rich.

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Carribean - 17.01.2011, 20:19

ABBAnator wrote: drimnagh wrote: I simply PREFER the female voice~that's all. It's my bias. It is soothing to my ears whereas although I like 'some' male vocalists a lot, ultimately I find the male voice grating.
I've been married for 24 years. The female voice can be quite grating at times as well, trust me ... :roll: :P

LOL! :lol:

lovepigeon wrote: Oh, and I never listen to John's Music Box off the Deliver album... but then again, who does?

LOL! :lol:
Michelle told the story about how this tune came about. They needed one more song for the album and John decided to record a music box Michelle had. While he is recording it Michelle drops in to look for her dog.
You can hear her call the dogs name and hear how the door closes again.
How funny is that?

Here is the last part of John's Music Box followed by one of my favourite M&P songs: Mansions

Link

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Anonymous - 17.01.2011, 23:09

Oh my Lord, I'd forgotten about Mansions! I really love Rooms as well. It's the only one I can think of where it's the male half of the vocal that really impresses me. John and Denny's harmony on the word 'why'... sublime.

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Carribean - 20.01.2011, 05:17

More of these wonderful harmonies...

Link

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andrewlincs - 23.01.2011, 23:00

Love this group Carribean. I have been playing a lot of my vinyl collection again after a long silence. Have a double LP of their GH that is top of my list to play tomorrow evening
California Dreaming is my fab because of the lyrics - just love the harmonies perfect job!

Re: The Mamas And The Papas

abbarich - 11.02.2011, 20:16

I've bought 3 cds recently. The Big 3 and The mugwumps, which were the 2 groups Cass sang with pre M&P. Both are excellent. Denny's in The Mugwumps too, so that's one step towards the M&P! I also bought Waiting for a song by Denny Doherty (with strong backing vocals from Cass and Michelle!) recorded in '74, a matter of weeks before Cass's death. I strongly recommend this cd. Beautiful harmonising from 3/4 of the M&P, who may well be the best group after ABBA. Rich.

Re: The Mamas And The Papas

Anonymous - 11.02.2011, 20:51

I love the Big Three but I never got to grips with the Mugwumps. Of course, with Cass and Denny the vocals are gorgeous but I find the songs themselves so dull. Everybody's Been Talkin' is the only Mugwumps track on my ipod. I've had Denny's Watcha Gonna Do album for years, but I don't think I've listened to it more than once. Is the '74 one good then?

Re: The Mamas And The Papas

abbarich - 11.02.2011, 21:15

lovepigeon wrote: Is the '74 one good then?

It's terrific. Great songs. Mostly covers, though Denny did compose one track. Cass and Michelle are prominent on a lot of the tracks, and those gorgeous harmonies are worth buying this for alone. What did you think of Denny's first album, as I've not heard it. Rich.

Re: The Mamas And The Papas

Anonymous - 13.02.2011, 17:42

His first one is exactly what I thought it would be... MOR/AOR/country-rock dullness. It seems to go hand in hand with John's first solo album as there was a strong country influence there too, but John's is a bit more jaunty. Have you ever heard any of Michelle's solo stuff? Oh God. Nah, if I'm going beyond '71, I'm with Cass all the way; she never lets me down.

Re: The Mamas And The Papas

abbarich - 13.02.2011, 19:11

lovepigeon wrote: Have you ever heard any of Michelle's solo stuff? Oh God. Nah, if I'm going beyond '71, I'm with Cass all the way; she never lets me down.

There are 4 solo tracks by Michelle on the Complete Anthology box set which I bought a few weeks ago. They're not bad actually. The best one is No love today, which was the theme to the movie Mother, Jugs and Speed.
A minor classic IMHO. Michelle was no Cass though, and all of Cass's 7 solo albums are wonderful. If you're gonna break another heart (from The road is no place for a lady LP) is an underrated classic. Rich.

Re: The Mamas And The Papas

Anonymous - 13.02.2011, 21:36

The Road Is No Place For A Lady is my favourite Cass album by a very long way. Who In The World is one of the most gorgeous songs I've heard in all my life. I love If You're Gonna Break Another Heart too... she sounds so bitter! I've got a bit of a thing for Jesus Was A Crossmaker from the Cass Elliot album at the moment though.
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