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Angeleyes - 29.12.2006, 13:25
Frida compensate vocally for Agnetha on The Album
Today I read this on Abba The Site, did you know this??? I didn't!!
On which tracks??
DID YOU KNOW?
Did you know? During the recording of "ABBA - The Album", due to Agnethas second pregnancy, Frida had to compensate vocally for Agnethas absence in the recording studio on some tracks.
johnny59 - 29.12.2006, 13:28
Do you mean Frida "faked" Agnetha parts?
Interesting . . .
Angeleyes - 29.12.2006, 13:34
Yes, very interesting!
Now we all better listen to The Album again, to recognize these tracks??
The Site don't mention any track... :cry:
ABBAFANUSA - 29.12.2006, 16:51
I have never understood what this meant. Obviously both girls sing on every song. Perhaps it just means that while Agnetha was out with her pregnancy, Frida recorded all her vocals alone (or ensam lol!) in the studio whereas they would normally be in there together?
iancee - 29.12.2006, 23:46
What it means that Frida took care of more of the backing vocals. The chorus of Move On is a good example - though all the ABBA voices are there, there is more of Frida than anyone else.
Bonnie - 30.12.2006, 00:11
This is what Frida herself said about it in the first ABBA magazine:
http://theabbascrapbook.blogspot.com/2006/12/do-i-really-see-whats-in-her-mind.html
"While Agnetha had to rest before the birth of her baby, I have had to tackle some of the overdubs that she would normally do, which is quite a challenge for me. I wonder if anyone will be able to spot any difference"
Actually I have been listening to The Album with headphones on numerous times trying to spot any difference but it's very hard. Ian mentioned Move On but I think the "Aha , the songs you sing are too romantic " part in Hole in your soul sounds also very Frida-ish.
Maybe in ten years we will finally hear ABBA's biggest secret: it was in fact Frida who sang lead on Thank You For The Music!
Bonnie 8)
Maxi-saxi - 30.12.2006, 04:52
Yes, I heard that, Now I will have to listern to the recording very closely and see or should I say hear the difference, I bet I can't spot them.
But very intresting point that!
Maxi-saxi :lol:
marco-esteban - 30.12.2006, 22:31
Do you mean that ABBA would have been some kind of swedish pre-Milli Vanillis ?
I have always thought that the male voice at the beginning of Move On could not be Bobby Farrell, but sounds like Frank Farian himself, hehehe :lol: :D
aggie-fan - 30.12.2006, 23:56
this is an interesting topic. i knew a little about that. but yeah. great comments.
aggie-fan
Cabbadian - 03.01.2007, 23:12
I've known about this but never knew the W5 about it (the who, what, where, when, why). BB's production skills were very good at altering Frida's voice enough to sound Agnethaish because for me, anyway, it's hard to tell where Frida compensated for Agnetha's absence.
x
Maxi-saxi - 04.01.2007, 04:32
I've listerned to the Cd a couple of times and still can't pick it up.
Maxi-saxi :oops: :lol:
trouper149 - 30.01.2007, 05:59
please in honor of all abba members DO NOT COMPARE THEM TO FRANK FARIAN, what a hoax, and bless the remaining member of milli vanilli, love, markus
Maxi-saxi - 30.01.2007, 06:19
Cabbadian wrote: I've known about this but never knew the W5 about it (the who, what, where, when, why). BB's production skills were very good at altering Frida's voice enough to sound Agnethaish because for me, anyway, it's hard to tell where Frida compensated for Agnetha's absence.
x
That is the miracle of the ABBA sound!
Maxi-saxi :wink:
Carribean - 30.01.2007, 06:30
This is what CMP wrote about The Album in The Complete Recording Sessions:
In Early November it was announced that all vocal work for the new album had been completed since Agnetha had been able to attent more recording sessions than expected. "I had to do some of my vocal overdubs reclined on a deck chair", she remembers. "Of course this was a very trying period for me".
So no word about Agnetha dropping out early and Frida taking over. Who can figure this out!?
I could however imagine that Frida did more overdubs on the live songs for The Movie because I think there she is heard more prominent. Or is that just me?
abbascots - 30.01.2007, 13:33
I think Move on you can hear Frida more prominent especialy the corus,I agree with you on Abba the movie Carribean on a few songs i also think Frida is more prominent in some of live songs, Knowing me Knowing you,Summer night city,Take a chance on me
Regards johnsteven
Carribean - 30.01.2007, 18:31
abbascots wrote: I agree with you on Abba the movie Carribean on a few songs i also think Frida is more prominent in some of live songs, Knowing me Knowing you,Summer night city,Take a chance on me
Regards johnsteven
These songs are not in The Movie! :wink:
WATERL00 - 30.01.2007, 19:44
Carribean wrote: I could however imagine that Frida did more overdubs on the live songs for The Movie because I think there she is heard more prominent. Or is that just me? This was said one one web-site (maybe ABBA Anuual?). Agnetha did hardly record any new vocals for the movie so if you hear her it is her live-voice not a re-recorded studio-voice.
Same goes for ABBADABBADOO. On Carl Magnus Palm's website you can read that Frida and Björn rerecorded some vocals for the two live-songs the day Agnetha went to Poland (by car because she didn't want to fly with the others the following day). That's why Björn harmonizses with himself and Frida's more prominent on these songs than Agnetha.
Visitor1982 - 30.01.2007, 19:49
Frida voice is always a bit stronger live... You can hear that very clearly when they sing songs live together. It's always Frida who sounds more powerful. I guess that's because Frida felt somewhat more at home on the stage and Agnetha felt more at home in the studio.
Marnix
Carribean - 30.01.2007, 20:29
Visitor1982 wrote: Frida voice is always a bit stronger live... You can hear that very clearly when they sing songs live together. It's always Frida who sounds more powerful. I guess that's because Frida felt somewhat more at home on the stage and Agnetha felt more at home in the studio.
Marnix
The vocal overdubs were done in the studio so if Agnetha was there she should be heard equally.
jacko10 - 30.01.2007, 20:47
you cant tell, I would imagine frida had to do slightly more work, but the over-all performance from both girls are grand! trying to run a internationally reknown group, leads private lifes and have babies is hard work something has to ''give'' doesn't it. good on Frida for taking on the extra measures required during the making of the album. Without who's help Agnetha might have had more stress through-out her pregnancy and it could have caused Problems. three cheers for Frida!!!
Jack
abbascots - 30.01.2007, 23:44
I was thinking about Abba live in concert Carribean as i only just watched that the other night :oops: :oops: ,The songs i ment from the movie are Dancing Queen,So long,He is your brother, Mamma mia, Fernando, Why did it have to be me,When i kissed the teacher you can hear Frida is very prominent on the corus Frida's very strong and powerful on the live recordings
Regards johnsteven :)
Fire&Ice - 31.01.2007, 10:52
abbascots wrote: I was thinking about Abba live in concert Carribean as i only just watched that the other night :oops: :oops: ,The songs i ment from the movie are Dancing Queen,So long,He is your brother, Mamma mia, Fernando, Why did it have to be me,When i kissed the teacher you can hear Frida is very prominent on the corus Frida's very strong and powerful on the live recordings
Regards johnsteven :)
I agree with you Johnsteven but remember WDIHTBM features only Bjorn and Frida in the Movie! :wink: Why her voice is more prominent there is probably because she was a better singer than Bjorn (I think I can safely say that without the VS fear :lol: ) and her voice, though female, was more powerful than his.
Again and again - I adore Frida's live performances. 8)
As for Frida's compensation for Agnetha on The Album, I tried. I really tried but I couldn't spot any difference... I'll go check Move on more carefully, as well as the part Bonnie mentions.
andy2k4 - 31.01.2007, 11:47
it is very difficult to tell. Perhaps Frida was given more than her fair share of work to do in the studio with regards to overdubs on The Album, but that is not to say she aimed to sound like Agnetha, just that she had to sing more than she normally would have done, harmonising with herself etc.
I listened to the name of the game today, the part that goes "So I wanna know" (whats the name of the game?), and thought that the overdubs sounded very Frida like, but who is to say that she was 'covering' for Agnetha?
With regards to the movie, I do think Frida is the most prominent vocal. Perhaps Agnetha was only able to dub the likes of SOS, Dancing Queen and I've been waiting for you, leaving the backing vocals in a lot of non-agnetha-led songs very Frida sounding!
WATERL00 - 31.01.2007, 21:17
The most obvious it is on Move On. Listen to the harmonies during the last stanza. This is NOT Agnetha although it should be her and should sound like her. it took me quite a while until I figured out that it was not her but Frida. You can hear that she pronounces some words differently.
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