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Re: Agnetha and her voice
abbangelears - 29.11.2006, 00:34
Agnetha and her voice
I know there's a great deal of people (grrr) around here that love Agnetha. Well, believe it or not, the first thing that caught my eye (or ear) in Agnetha was her voice, a stunning weapon! Difficult to describe, but able to stir the deepest emotions inside ourselves. Later I liked all her other charms (eyes, mouth, hair, teeth, curves, bottom, geometry..), but voice came first. And my question is: Do you think we would love Agnetha's body so much if her voice wasn't so appealing? I would like to hear some opinions before stating my point of view.
Re: Agnetha and her voice
johnny59 - 29.11.2006, 01:17
What a great topic, Angel.
Yes, I think you're right. Her voice is her weapon that hits me like a photone torpedo and makes me helpless. How do you use to say it? "That voice that drills space time to reach your heart".
I'm absolutely sure about it. She hits me straightly in the heart with her voice, not mainly in the parts below the heart. :oops:
It is an advantage and a wonderful side effect that she is so easy to look at, but if she only were a model and wouldn't sing I seriously doubt that she would have that power to drive me insane.
I like Charlize Theron or Nicole Kidman because they're pretty and my kind of girl, but that's nothing to compare what Agnetha does with poor little me.
By the way, I have written an article about this what I called "The Agnetha Phenomenon" and anyone who wants to take the effort can read it here:
http://www.agnetha-forever.de/Deutsch/Anhang/Phenomenon/phenomenon.html
Re: Agnetha and her voice
jacko10 - 29.11.2006, 02:18
Agnetha took a fifteen year old lad and turned his head into mush!
Loved her then and still adore her. nearly thirty odd years later.
the question is a little strange as I wouldn't know of Agnetha had it not been for the eurovision song contest it was her voice that brought her to the ''light''
However she has/had a lovely figure too. the both together made for an idol
the two separate? well just as wonderful, she was born to be an heartbreaker with a face and body to die for!
she is lovely, a beautiful smile the way she bites her lip. cheeky face And a very good looking woman in all ways
ps. she was my first big crush!
Jack
Re: Agnetha and her voice
burningmybridges - 29.11.2006, 02:39
Hi!
Agnetha's always been a blessing to the eye :oops:
She's got that magic about her, I remember she was referred to as "The Wonder Blond" in the U.S. And, surely she, and Frida, drew a lot of attention to ABBA just by their looks.
Still, without her beautiful voice and musical talent, she would just have been an "empty shell" for me today.
"I have a talent, a wonderful thing, 'cause everyone listens when I start to sing" To me, that's among the most true words she's ever sung.
:wink: Geir
Re: Agnetha and her voice
abbascots - 29.11.2006, 02:45
Agnetha has the ability to capture you heart with her voice,When this lady sings you are instantly frozen with the emotion that it holds a beutiful looking lady but for me the voice has always been Agnethas biggest and formost asett
Regards johnsteven :)
Re: Agnetha and her voice
Maxi-saxi - 29.11.2006, 02:45
Gentlemen,
I couldn't have put it better,
Agnetha's voice is stunning, and it gets you right in the heart especally with some of her later ABBA recordings. The Winner Takes It All, One Of Us & The Day Before You Came.
As I have said many times She was given a God given talent along with Frida, there voices together combined and solo are incrediable.
Maxi-saxi :lol:
Re: Agnetha and her voice
Maxi-saxi - 29.11.2006, 02:47
Johnny, Sorry forgot to say I read your article,
Very Good :lol:
Maxi-saxi
Re: Agnetha and her voice
aggie-fan - 29.11.2006, 06:42
yes it was her voice first. when i heard her voice in the used record store i was glued to her. then when i saw the cover of "i stand alone" i couldn't believe how beutiful she was. i thought she was like 24 in the picture.. haha. so yes her voice came first because thats what drew me to her.
aggie-fan
Re: Agnetha and her voice
Anonymous - 29.11.2006, 10:09
agnetha's voice
Agnetha have a great voice, one of the beautiful in the world and better, in my mind than the others "divas" from pop like Streisand etc. because she could be strong and powerful without be "too much"except, perhaps" in some rare songs.
That's why, i am so sad about her solo's career, not at the top of her great talent and beautiful voice. For me, agnetha must be in a "structure", not alone, to be abble to give the maxi.
About her physical, i let Johnny with his dreams; lines are going to Frida because i prefer this kind of girl, perhaps because she's the same style than my wife: green eyes, reds hair etc.
Agnetha could be very sensual and touching. She looks, for me, very scandinav girl, more européan and "nature", not "hollywood" than N.Kildman ou C.Theron, more "girly" or cute.
My childrens think she is a real beauty; it's not my mind but i respect that.
I always find that benny and frida was the glamour's couple from the bad but it seems, i am almost the lone.
regards,
pierre
Re: Agnetha and her voice
kristina57 - 29.11.2006, 11:08
Johnny, your article is very good and very nice.
As a female Agnetha fan I can just say I fell in love with her beautiful voice and I listen to her songs every day. I like Agnetha`s personality, the way she is and of course I see she is a very beautiful woman.
Re: Agnetha and her voice
drimnagh - 29.11.2006, 13:49
I heard her voice first so it has to be that. Although when I saw how beautiful she was my heart was stolen forever! Well, not stolen, I gave it freely. It is the complete package for me but she still could have been successful if she'd been less easy on the eye- I mean, look at Barbra Streisand! There is the difficulty of coming from Sweden and maybe not reaching further afield- perish the thought that I could have missed out on hearing her angelic voice! One thing I've noticed with Agnetha is her ability to inspire such devotion in her fans- each of us somehow feel she is ours alone and that we are her number one fan and that nobody could appreciate her talent and beauty more which is bizarre but I for one am happy to share her with you all! :lol:
Re: Agnetha and her voice
johnny59 - 29.11.2006, 16:01
drimnagh wrote: One thing I've noticed with Agnetha is her ability to inspire such devotion in her fans- each of us somehow feel she is ours alone and that we are her number one fan and that nobody could appreciate her talent and beauty more which is bizarre but I for one am happy to share her with you all! :lol:
Drimnagh, that's what it is. It's "bizarre". :roll:
And I'm happy to share her with you - up to a certain degree . . . :lol:
Re: Agnetha and her voice
drimnagh - 29.11.2006, 16:23
[quote="johnny59"]
And I'm happy to share her with you - up to a certain degree . . . :lol:[/quote]
We are her adoring admirers, Johnny (worship at her feet and all that) and I'm happy to be in such good company. :wink:
Re: Agnetha and her voice
skm - 29.11.2006, 17:02
Great article, Johnny. :D
Yes, it was her voice that captured me. Her voice has this ability to give the impression that she's singing only to you - very intimate feelings. I feel this is more apparent esp in earlier songs like Dissillution, My Love My Life, SOS etc. They sound more raw. With the later songs, some of this intimacy has been diluted with more production and techo wizardry. I'm glad that the same raw magic has returned with My Colouring Book. To me, even if Agnetha came in a less attractive package, I would still be a fan. Proof : I love B. Streisand, Alison Moyet, Meatloaf and they're not exactly eye candy.
Re: Agnetha and her voice
Anonymous - 29.11.2006, 17:04
agnetha's voice
Drimnagh and Johnny,
It's more admiration you feel about agnetha, more adoration, it's devotion or religion.
it surprises me because i can't separate agnetha and her behaviour or diva's caprices with the admiration i have for her, especially her voice.
it's difficult forme to admitt many things she said about the other members and i find that she is not a fair play member from the group.
I know you're not right with me and it's true that i am very straight about her but when i ask why she don't accept to sing with Frida in Djupa Andetag, you find many reasons (she lost her mother and father in dramatic circonstances etc) ok, but Frida had a curious childhood, lived a cruel divorce too, and her daughter at first, and her husband died in a short time ago. Meanwhile, Frida stays warm, generous, and overcoat completely loyal and faithfull with the 3 others abba's members and the fans.
One little example,please: Agnetha answered that "something going on" contains some good songs but that it was not "her cup of tea"; Frida said that "my colouring book" is delicious.
I'm sorry but it makes a difference.
Best regards,
Pierre
Re: Agnetha and her voice
drimnagh - 29.11.2006, 17:08
Pierre I will get back to you on what you've said-very interesting but I'd like you to remember that I am a fan of Frida, too.
Joe.
Re: Agnetha and her voice
johnny59 - 29.11.2006, 17:15
LOL. Yes, Joe, please do that. I can't always jump in because folks will begin to think I'm overly protective. :wink:
Re: Agnetha and her voice
Anonymous - 29.11.2006, 18:27
agnetha's voice
Ok, i am an agnetha's fan too with respect like an artist and perhaps i will like a person because i don't really know who she is, except something good and something not so good.
I know that you two are fans from Frida, and of course, the both men from abba and i know, when i read your topics, taht you love them with your hearts, with reflexion and curiousity.
You can speak also about the things you find bad about Frida or another, if you think something like that.
Best regards,
Pierre
Re: Agnetha and her voice
kristina57 - 29.11.2006, 18:36
This is an ABBA fan site, so I think we are all fans of Agnetha, Frida, Benny and Björn.
:)
Re: Agnetha and her voice
Anonymous - 29.11.2006, 18:46
agnetha's voice
Joe and Johnny,
just one aditionnal reflexion: to be really honest with you, i am not fan from agnetha so high than i admire Frida. I don't think it's possible, for me, in any case, to love as much the both ladies. My heart, my eyes and overcoat, my musical sensibility oblige me to choose my favourite. They are so differents, like singers, like persons, like way of life and engagements. With my friends, my childrens, in this forum, i see always that agnetha "creates" passion; for frida, it's more warm admiration, great respect for her talent and the oppened person. Well, it's difficult to avoid the comparaison.
best regards,
amicalement,
Pierre
Re: Agnetha and her voice
Carribean - 29.11.2006, 21:41
Of course the looks make enjoying a voice easier!
In the case of both Agnetha and Frida it is the best package: great voices and incredible women. Back then and still today!
People who dislike any of these wonderful ladies have to be nuts or are simply clueless...
Re: Agnetha and her voice
abbangelears - 29.11.2006, 23:20
Interesting comments. Well, Johhny I have read your article and I fully agree with everthing you say, you really hit the nail on the head. Anyway, the voice, being the base of our infatuation (or whatever we can call it) is not enough to justify it. I have always glimpsed some features in Agnetha that makes her special, unique. I think her power stems from the fact that she's not just a woman, but a whole world in herself. Yes, when Agnetha sings, or looks at the camera, or smiles, or frowns..., she suggests a million things;it's as if she was continuously opening multilayered windows that lead you to unknown worlds. Yes, a host of fascinating creatures inhabit Agnetha and they stick their heads out of her every time she looks, smiles thinks, frowns, laughs, dances...And obviously when she sings! She's got the power of a million armies.
Re: Agnetha and her voice
Anonymous - 30.11.2006, 10:12
agnetha's voice
carribean,
what do you mean by "nuts"; forme a nut is a failure.
regards,
pierre
Re: Agnetha and her voice
Carribean - 30.11.2006, 12:50
That's right!
If one cannot see the talents of both women one fails in my opinion!
Re: Agnetha and her voice
drimnagh - 30.11.2006, 16:16
Re: agnetha's voice
joos wrote: Drimnagh and Johnny,
It's more admiration you feel about agnetha, more adoration, it's devotion or religion.
it surprises me because i can't separate agnetha and her behaviour or diva's caprices with the admiration i have for her, especially her voice.
it's difficult forme to admitt many things she said about the other members and i find that she is not a fair play member from the group.
I know you're not right with me and it's true that i am very straight about her but when i ask why she don't accept to sing with Frida in Djupa Andetag, you find many reasons (she lost her mother and father in dramatic circonstances etc) ok, but Frida had a curious childhood, lived a cruel divorce too, and her daughter at first, and her husband died in a short time ago. Meanwhile, Frida stays warm, generous, and overcoat completely loyal and faithfull with the 3 others abba's members and the fans.
One little example,please: Agnetha answered that "something going on" contains some good songs but that it was not "her cup of tea"; Frida said that "my colouring book" is delicious.
I'm sorry but it makes a difference.
Best regards,
Pierre
Hi Pierre.
I've felt compelled to quote all of your post because there is so much in there I want to address. With respect: the beauty of forums like this is the freedom for fans to express their opinions and feelings and naturally sometimes others hold differing views and we are then free to question or debate whatever has arisen. I have absolutely no problem 'per se' with you or your views and I apologise in advance if I've misunderstood you. BUT... :) I feel I must speak up regarding your views on Agnetha and Frida. I realise you are a fan of both ladies but you must realise that they are very different individuals with sometimes quite opposing lifestyles. Simply because Agnetha is a shy and private person with self confessed phobias doesn't mean she is a capricious diva. You are correct when you say that both her and Frida have experienced tragedy in their lives in recent years but I must say that every individual reacts to traumas and difficulties in varying and sometimes vastly different ways. I think it's wonderful that Frida seems able to smile and appear in public as often as she does but simply because Agnetha cannot/will not behave in the same way does not mean that she is being deliberately elusive or difficult and we all should respect their individual choices in life. We can't possibly know what goes through their minds day to day but it is a given that they must have a life outside of ABBA as to live and breath it all the time would be stultifying. They're entitled to do 'other stuff' outside of their work- to relax and 'have a life'. As for mine and Johnny's (amongst many others) adulation of Agnetha, I make no apology. I believe most people have their heroes or idols and she is one of mine. I don't wish to marry her or make a nuisance of myself; I simply enjoy her heavenly voice and apparently down to earth personality. She's certainly no diva in the derogatory sense of the word! Also, don't you feel it is better that Agnetha is honest about her feelings or opinions? I really don't think it's such a big deal if 'Something's Going On' or 'Shine' wasn't her cup of tea. I daresay that 'MCB' notwithstanding, Frida in all probability isn't a fan of everything Agnetha has ever recorded either!
I enjoy reading your posts very much. :wink:
Regards,
Joe.
Re: Agnetha and her voice
Anonymous - 30.11.2006, 18:41
agnteha' voice
Dear Joe,
Many thanks for your reply.
You are very honest with me and i understand all you mean, with reason and sensibility and i want thank you very much for that.
About Agnetha, perhaps, it would be better that i stopped to write my sensations. For me, it's a long subject and i don't want create a controversy. It's too personnal for you or me. What you say about the people's reaction to cope with difficulties, tragedies and also of course sorrow. Frankly, i can't compare the situation between Frida and Agnetha. I have three childrens and i'm married since 21 years old; then, i met my wife in 1979 when we are 14 years old, the same year i discover abba in German with "i have a dream". I can't support the idea to lost one of my childrens or my wife. It's different about the parent's death. It's very hard and sad but i can't compare the two things.
Agnetha and Frida don't have the same private life and it's also one of the reasons of their differences.
Joe, i promise me today to stop to write anything in this forum actually but i am really touching by your reply and your prettiness.
Amicalement,
pierre
Re: Agnetha and her voice
drimnagh - 30.11.2006, 18:42
No probs :lol:
Joe
Re: Agnetha and her voice
agnetha_andrea - 30.11.2006, 19:08
Agnetha's voice is just captivating. I remember the first ABBA I heard was "Gimme Gimme Gimme". My God, I was amazed by the leading voice. :shock:
Later, I found who this voice belonged to. Besides her beauty and musical talent, Agnetha also 'inspires' me. I mean, her personality. I like very much her way of being: sweet, polite, charming and generous. :wink:
And, to answer your question, of course, the most important thing for me is her voice, definitely. :D
She makes me feel different emotions at the same time -happiness, sadness, fear, etc- and it shivers down my spine! :o
Love,
Andrea 8)
Re: Agnetha and her voice
platobird - 08.02.2008, 18:46
Old Topic, new video. This just appeared on YouTube from an Agnetha worshiper in the Philippines. :D
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1d2bb2KZM6Q
Although we've worshiped her eyes, nose, teeth, lip-bite, costumes and yes- even her butt, this video hits home on her voice :D - until the very end that is. :shock:
There's no doubt in my mind that Agnetha's voice is the absolute best pop voice of my lifetime. Although she charted in Sweden before ABBA, she failed to make a big hit in Germany. So the question is: without ABBA, how far would she have gone?? :?:
I suspect that Agnetha's popularity in Sweden was due to her own songs, which emerged from her very Swedish brain. ABBA's worldwide popularity, although abetted by to two very sexy and accomplished vocalists, was due to songs that everyone wanted to hear over and over. :D
Re: Agnetha and her voice
lemmon - 08.02.2008, 19:22
Indeed she has the best popvoice in the world.
Re: Agnetha and her voice
drimnagh - 09.02.2008, 13:20
'The best 'popvoice' in the world.
I really like that! 8)
-J
Re: Agnetha and her voice
Toni - 09.02.2008, 15:01
Agnetha is in my Top 2 of the best popsingers in the world! :D :wink:
Re: Agnetha and her voice
johnny59 - 09.02.2008, 16:34
Toni wrote: Agnetha is in my Top 2 of the best popsingers in the world! :D :wink:
LOL, Toni. :lol:
Re: Agnetha and her voice
Phil - 09.02.2008, 16:45
She comes number 4 in my chart of best female popular music voices ever:
number 1: Anni-Frid (Frida) Lyngstad (Sweden/Norway)
number 2: Karen Carpenter (USA)
number 3: Gigliola Cinquetti (Italy)
number 4: Agnetha Faltskog (Sweden)
number 5: Sarah Vaughan (USA)
Phil :-)
Re: Agnetha and her voice
lemmon - 09.02.2008, 16:56
Here is my top 5:
1. Agnetha Faltskog
2. Barbra Streisand
3. Madonna
4. Karen Carpenter
5. Kylie.
Re: Agnetha and her voice
Phil - 09.02.2008, 17:03
I totally dislike Streisand (completely over the top) and Madonna and K.Minogue I personnally find extremely limited vocally...
At least I have Agnetha in my top five :-) hahahha...
Re: Agnetha and her voice
Fire&Ice - 09.02.2008, 17:16
In my book, she is among top 5 pop voices in the world.
(for my taste Debbie Harry is No.1)
Curiously enough, I don't think Frida comes anywhere near a pop voice. Hers is suitable for other kind of music. :o
Re: Agnetha and her voice
lemmon - 09.02.2008, 18:06
I agree Fire and Ice: Debbie Harry is great! And Frida's voice is indeed not so much a popvoice but a voice very suitable for jazz/classical music. We all have different opinions and tasts: that's makes it so interesting.
Re: Agnetha and her voice
abbangelears - 09.02.2008, 18:44
Frida's voice is not suitable for pop? And what did she sing with Abba? chinese opera? I understand she comes from jazz, she's very versatile and all that, but her voice fits perfectly in pop, or do you think she sang badly with Abba?
Re: Agnetha and her voice
abbangelears - 09.02.2008, 18:46
Ah, I forgot. I like Blondie and Debbie Harry. She has a very personal style and a strong personality as vocalist, but technically Agnetha is much better
Re: Agnetha and her voice
Fire&Ice - 09.02.2008, 19:20
abbangelears wrote: Frida's voice is not suitable for pop? And what did she sing with Abba? chinese opera? I understand she comes from jazz, she's very versatile and all that, but her voice fits perfectly in pop, or do you think she sang badly with Abba?
Well, well.... Can you name one typical pop song with Frida on the lead?? Maybe KMKY comes to mind but that one comes closest to pop IMO.
Besides, I don't think ABBA's music could be limited to pop only. Their style was much too versatile to be called just pop. Would you call Tropical Loveland a typical pop song? Or I let the music speak? That one is closer to Chinese opera than pop.
Duet with Agnetha is a different story of course.
Re: Agnetha and her voice
abbangelears - 09.02.2008, 23:51
Well, setting up the limits of pop is very difficult and we could spend a year trying to do it, but what do you call songs like Knowing me Knowing you, Supertrouper, Our last summer, Me and I, Alla Mina Basta Ar, or When all is said and done, for example? I agree with you that the way she sings the songs gives them a jazzy feeling, but basically they are still pop, I think.
Re: Agnetha and her voice
jacko10 - 09.02.2008, 23:58
Number One Agnetha
Number two Agnetha
Number three Agnetha
Number four Agnetha
Number five Agnetha
I an slighty biased, theres no-one I like more....
Jack
Re: Agnetha and her voice
johnny59 - 10.02.2008, 00:08
jacko10 wrote: Number One Agnetha
Number two Agnetha
Number three Agnetha
Number four Agnetha
Number five Agnetha
I an slighty biased, theres no-one I like more....
Jack
Jack! We tie. :rotfl2:
Re: Agnetha and her voice
Toni - 10.02.2008, 00:53
Maybe many of the Agnetha fans are very focussed on her favorite, for them she´s the one and only, while many Frida fans like both ABBA ladies very much, I think that´s the difference.
Before you kill me: I wrote "maybe" and "many"! :innocent:
Re: Agnetha and her voice
Carribean - 10.02.2008, 01:07
Toni wrote: Maybe many of the Agnetha fans are very focussed on her favorite, for them she´s the one and only, while many Frida fans like both ABBA ladies very much, I think that´s the difference.
Before you kill me: I wrote "maybe" and "many"! :innocent:
Very funny Toni and very untrue.
If you go through the latest posts in this forum then you will read how inferiour Agnetha's voice is to Frida's and how Frida can sing anything (of course Agnetha can only sing pop tunes). Comments like that simply cannot be made by people liking them both.
I myself have made very clear many times I prefer them both (some do not believe me but that is fine). Luckily I see them as talented ladies who also recorded some silly and bad songs that I never ever listen to. I like many other amazing singers as well but the ABBA women are certainly numer 1 on my list... both of em!
:)
Re: Agnetha and her voice
Toni - 10.02.2008, 01:27
...but every Frida fan on the last page of this forum has Agnetha in her/his top 5, while Agnetha fans don´t have Frida in their top five. True or not true? :wink:
(I´m not talking about Joe Drimnagh & Abbaangelears who hasn´t mentioned their top 5)
Re: Agnetha and her voice
Phil - 10.02.2008, 01:30
Great point Toni...you did read my top 5 well ! :-)
Re: Agnetha and her voice
Carribean - 10.02.2008, 01:33
Only on the last page? Makes me smile!
Re: Agnetha and her voice
Phil - 10.02.2008, 01:38
Toni....We Frida's fans we are maybe just like Frida... more versatile! :-)
Re: Agnetha and her voice
Toni - 10.02.2008, 01:40
On page two, because nobody on page one made a top 5 :P :D
Re: Agnetha and her voice
Carribean - 10.02.2008, 01:40
Phil wrote: Toni....We Frida's fans we are maybe just like Frida... more versatile! :-)
Most versatile are ABBA fans... like me! You have the best of both worlds!
:wink:
Re: Agnetha and her voice
Toni - 10.02.2008, 01:43
Agree with both of you, Phil & Ron.
:wink:
Re: Agnetha and her voice
johnny59 - 10.02.2008, 01:51
Oh c'mon. :roll:
Don't make this a sulky discussion. It always makes me suspect there's some kind of envy behind it.
If I look at the Frida section recently, it seems to me there's at least as much sweaty obsession as in the Agnetha section.
Thank God. :rotfl:
Yes, Toni or Phil, we love our girl to bits and we sometimes seem a bit over the moon with it. But please understand that it has nothing to do with wonderful Frida. It's just that we can't divide our love between more than two women - if we count our spouses in.
:rotfl2:
Re: Agnetha and her voice
Phil - 10.02.2008, 01:58
Dear JohnnyI love Frida to bits but I allways keep a place in my heart for lovely Agnetha....
I tell you we Frida fans are (slightly!) more.....cooperative :-))
Re: Agnetha and her voice
johnny59 - 10.02.2008, 02:15
Phil wrote: I tell you we Frida fans are (slightly!) more.....cooperative :-))
Most likely. :)
Re: Agnetha and her voice
Fire&Ice - 10.02.2008, 02:23
abbangelears wrote: Knowing me Knowing you,
Pop rock (I said above that would be the closest to pop)
abbangelears wrote: Supertrouper,
I don't know what it is but I wouldn't call that pop.
abbangelears wrote: Our last summer,
That is soft rock.
abbangelears wrote: Me and I, Alla Mina Basta Ar, or When all is said and done, for example? I agree with you that the way she sings the songs gives them a jazzy feeling, but basically they are still pop, I think.
Alla mina basta ar is a little heavier than pop. Even if you can call the rest of the songs pop, I still don't think her voice is poppy, and all the songs you listed are still not typical pop like Gimme Gimme Gimme, for example.
Re: Agnetha and her voice
Fire&Ice - 10.02.2008, 02:39
Carribean wrote:
If you go through the latest posts in this forum then you will read how inferiour Agnetha's voice is to Frida's and how Frida can sing anything (of course Agnetha can only sing pop tunes).
Where did you read that??
I suppose you are referring to a topic in the Frida section. You know I've been reading all her topics carefully but I haven't come across such thing - that Agnetha can sing only pop tunes..
Re: Agnetha and her voice
Carribean - 10.02.2008, 04:35
Fire&Ice wrote: and all the songs you listed are still not typical pop like Gimme Gimme Gimme, for example.
Lol! If Our Last Summer is soft rock and Super Trouper is not pure pop then Gimme Gimme Gimme (with Agnetha in the lead) is not pop either. That would be disco!
If all this would be true then we have Bjorn and Benny to thank for their production and not the singers. But ABBA is as pure pop as it gets with indeed a lot of influences. Madonna is seen as a disco singer while she has recorded an album full of acoustic songs and she has done mellow songs and even musical but she still will be seen as disco and ABBA will always be pop.
And the Agnetha remark is me being sarcastic when people get overboard about how Frida can sing it all and Agnetha's voice is pure pop. Yes she did pop but also adult oriented rock, Schlager, middle of the road, musical and even reggae... But at the end of the day both women will be remembered as the singers of popgroup ABBA.
Re: Agnetha and her voice
Anonymous - 10.02.2008, 07:57
Fire&Ice wrote: Can you name one typical pop song with Frida on the lead?? Maybe KMKY comes to mind but that one comes closest to pop IMO.
abbangelears wrote: what do you call songs like Knowing me Knowing you, Supertrouper, Our last summer, Me and I, Alla Mina Basta Ar, or When all is said and done, for example?
What about The King Has Lost His Crown?
Re: Agnetha and her voice
Maxi-saxi - 10.02.2008, 08:21
johnny59 wrote: jacko10 wrote: Number One Agnetha
Number two Agnetha
Number three Agnetha
Number four Agnetha
Number five Agnetha
I an slighty biased, theres no-one I like more....
Jack
Jack! We tie. :rotfl2:
Great choices Gentlemen :wink:
Maxi-saxi
Re: Agnetha and her voice
Fire&Ice - 10.02.2008, 11:02
Carribean wrote:
Lol! If Our Last Summer is soft rock and Super Trouper is not pure pop then Gimme Gimme Gimme (with Agnetha in the lead) is not pop either. That would be disco!
I agree. But can you honestly tell me if you could find a guitar solo such as the one in OLS in any pop song? I think not. I've been trying to find and scan the soft-rock reference from an ABBA book I had read but I can't. I'll keep trying though.
As for ST, that would be a song suitable for Octoberfest. It just doesn't sound like pop in my opinion.
Carribean wrote: But ABBA is as pure pop as it gets with indeed a lot of influences.
True. Since you mentioned Madonna and disco, I've always thought she is pure pop. I even wanted to compare a few of her songs with OLS and ST, just to show how non-pop they are.
Carribean wrote: And the Agnetha remark is me being sarcastic when people get overboard about how Frida can sing it all and Agnetha's voice is pure pop.
Why would you be bothered by the fact that Frida can sing it all? I also don't remember anyone saying that. I mean, both can sing whatever they want, with the difference that Agnetha sounds better in pop songs and heart-breaking ballads, Frida in dreamy, jazzy and rocky songs. These differences make them complement perfectly in an ABBA song.
Zeebee wrote: What about The King Has Lost His Crown?
I give up! :rotfl: This one is even further away from pop than ST. (my opinion)
Re: Agnetha and her voice
johnny59 - 10.02.2008, 12:42
May I remind the esteemed audience that this is a thread about Agnetha's voice?
:shutup:
Re: Agnetha and her voice
drimnagh - 10.02.2008, 17:07
:agree: :applause: Hear, hear, Johnny!
For my ten cents worth I would say Agnetha has a very VERSATILE voice! :bow: I defy anyone to disagree with me! :roll: :innocent: :whistle:
-J
Re: Agnetha and her voice
Carribean - 10.02.2008, 17:18
Lol Joe... ok I agree!
:wink:
Re: Agnetha and her voice
drimnagh - 10.02.2008, 17:23
:wink: :lol:
Re: Agnetha and her voice
Fire&Ice - 10.02.2008, 19:00
johnny59 wrote: May I remind the esteemed audience that this is a thread about Agnetha's voice?
:shutup:
:lol: Don't look at me Johnny! I just had to reply to a few remarks. In fact, I did not intend to discuss Frida at all here. :P
Re: Agnetha and her voice
Carribean - 10.02.2008, 19:08
Fire&Ice wrote: johnny59 wrote: May I remind the esteemed audience that this is a thread about Agnetha's voice?
:shutup:
:lol: Don't look at me Johnny! I just had to reply to a few remarks. In fact, I did not intend to discuss Frida at all here. :P
Lol Ivana! It was you who started it with this remark:
Fire&Ice wrote: Curiously enough, I don't think Frida comes anywhere near a pop voice. Hers is suitable for other kind of music. :o
:lol:
Re: Agnetha and her voice
Fire&Ice - 10.02.2008, 19:23
:lol: Indeed, that is very true!
That was actually a reply to people (my fellow Frida fans) who did not like the fact Frida was not among top 5 pop singers but only Agnetha from 1-5th place which I've found quite all right. :wink:
Now, back to Agnetha please. :D
Re: Agnetha and her voice
Carribean - 10.02.2008, 19:39
Fire&Ice wrote: That was actually a reply to people (my fellow Frida fans) who did not like the fact Frida was not among top 5 pop singers but only Agnetha from 1-5th place which I've found quite all right. :wink:
Well I do not like that either and I find it hard to believe. It might be a joke or it is just a way to try to upset other fans. In the case of Jack and Johnny I am sure Frida is in their Top 5 as well.
In my opinion there is no way that one can be an ABBA fan (on an ABBA forum!) without having both women in your top 5 of favourite female singers. Just think of their blended voices which is just pure heaven and would not have excisted if it wasn't for Agnetha and Frida.
:frida: :agnetha:
Re: Agnetha and her voice
jacko10 - 10.02.2008, 22:31
Carribean wrote: Fire&Ice wrote: That was actually a reply to people (my fellow Frida fans) who did not like the fact Frida was not among top 5 pop singers but only Agnetha from 1-5th place which I've found quite all right. :wink:
Well I do not like that either and I find it hard to believe. It might be a joke or it is just a way to try to upset other fans. In the case of Jack and Johnny I am sure Frida is in their Top 5 as well.
Oh Frida is there between 1 and 5 , you just have too work out where :P
how can I forget our Brunette Bombshell, Jack runs and Hides (reminds people I am a little :angel: really
Jack
Re: Agnetha and her voice
Joe - 10.02.2008, 23:05
johnny59 wrote: May I remind the esteemed audience that this is a thread about Agnetha's voice?
May I second this? ;-)
Joachim
Re: Agnetha and her voice
Joe - 10.02.2008, 23:24
Getting back on the initial question I say there are so many beautiful women out there that Agnetha would be just one of them, if there wasn't her voice.
I don't know what it is in her voice and I don't know if I would call Agnetha the best singer in the world, but there's just something very special about it which leaves quite a unique impression.
There are other pop (or whatever) singers with good voices of course but hearing them I usually get the feeling another singer could sing the same song just as good as the other one. In fact when I hear some songs on the radio I pretty often get confused about the real singer. This will never happen with Agnetha.
This quality was/is one of the essentials of ABBA's attraction for me, perfectly combined with the abilities of the other three. And this quality will always be the most important thing about Agnetha to me. I don't have to see her, I have to hear her to get carried away.
Joachim
Re: Agnetha and her voice
johnny59 - 10.02.2008, 23:44
Joe wrote: And this quality will always be the most important thing about Agnetha to me. I don't have to see her, I have to hear her to get carried away.
Joachim
Could be my words. Though, God have mercy with little old me, seeing her doesn't really make things worse. :lol:
Re: Agnetha and her voice
platobird - 11.02.2008, 01:12
OMG, what did I do? :shock: This thread dates back to the beginning of the forum, but I brought it back to life to share a video. I also expressed my personal opinion that Agnetha has the absolute best pop voice of my lifetime. Now, two pages later, I see that some agree with me but some have a different opinion. DUH! :roll:
I always tell my son, "it is never a mistake to have a personal opinion; although sometimes you have to keep it to yourself." 8)
I sure do like Karen Carpenter too; :D and I admit I had to look up Gigliola Cinquetti on YouTube; I found an amazing 1964 ESC video. Wow! Another wunderkind. :D It's interesting to know about others favorites (even by comparison in an Agnetha topic), and there are so many great singers in the world, but my opinion is mine and it survives any comparison. :agnetha: :love4:
Re: Agnetha and her voice
drimnagh - 11.02.2008, 14:55
The thing with Agnetha's voice (for me) is it's clarity and wholesomeness. There's a kind of innocence in there, too and a child-like sound to it. It has a ring to it like that of beautiful bells pealing out on an autumn morning and a heavenly quality to it, too. There's an angelic resonance in there and sometimes it borders on shrill, I grant you but this I kind of like.. there's sincerity and passion and yearning (in fact I'd go so far as to say that 'yearning' is probably up there as one of THE adjectives used to describe her voice most aptly) contained in her voice and indeed her vocal cords were/are her/ours God given gift!!!! :agree:
J
P.s Yes, Joe it's that unmistakeable quality to Agnetha's voice- you KNOW who's singing!!!!! :agree:
Re: Agnetha and her voice
abbangelears - 11.02.2008, 16:55
Yes, yes, yes
Re: Agnetha and her voice
Joe - 11.02.2008, 17:08
As always you know better how to describe it, Joe. :bow: :lol:
Joachim
Re: Agnetha and her voice
Toni - 11.02.2008, 20:36
platobird wrote: I always tell my son, "it is never a mistake to have a personal opinion; although sometimes you have to keep it to yourself." 8)
Very well said, Platobird. :agree: :rotfl:
Re: Agnetha and her voice
platobird - 11.02.2008, 21:30
drimnagh wrote: The thing with Agnetha's voice (for me) is it's clarity ... there's sincerity and passion and yearning...
Wow! That's great. :D
We can analyze Agnetha's (or any singers) voice in a technical way for pitch, range, tonal quality etc. and certainly Agnetha's voice is characterized by clarity and "tuning fork" purity. :D
A sound is comprised of a fundamental tone and higher harmonics that give the sound it's unique quality. Agnetha's voice is loaded with fundamental and fewer harmonics. By comparison Frida's voice is a rich mix of harmonics. In a video attached to antoher topic, Michael Tretow describes how these two unique vocal qualities combine to give the fabulous ABBA sound. 8)
In addition, when Agnetha holds a tone, there's no vibrato or pulsation of the sound. Many singers use a little vibrato to add character to their sound, and some singers just can't hold the pitch. :shock:
All this said, and returning to drimnagh's comment, beyond the scientific aspects of the sound, Agnetha's voice conveys a yearning, and there's no technical description for how this comes about. Add a video of her singing, and the yearning is intensified ten-fold. The passion comes through in sight and sound - she's intense. (IMO)
In MCB I note that Agnetha has picked up a few more harmonics as her voice matured. Still steady as a rock and passionate as always. :agnetha:
Re: Agnetha and her voice
Carribean - 11.02.2008, 21:35
platobird wrote: In MCB I note that Agnetha has picked up a few more harmonics as her voice matured.
Yes I noticed that too! Funny that her voice matured that way after not singing for so many years (over a decade!) and that it still sounds young.
Re: Agnetha and her voice
Maxi-saxi - 12.02.2008, 07:52
I agree totally
All we need now is another Recording by the Lady Herself, or should I say That is why we need another Agnetha CD.
Maxi-saxi :D
Re: Agnetha and her voice
drimnagh - 12.02.2008, 16:07
Yes, Maxi Saxi but then what? Let's suppose Agnetha DOES record another CD? How long do you think it will be before us fans are asking for MORE!!!!!!!!! :shock:
You know it's true.. :agree:
Going back to Daniel and platobirds comments.... :bow: :applause:
Let's have more of this slightly scientific analysis of Agnetha's voice and ABBA's music from our two boffins- I LOVE it!
-J
Re: Agnetha and her voice
jacko10 - 12.02.2008, 16:29
Maxi-saxi wrote: I agree totally
All we need now is another Recording by the Lady Herself, or should I say That is why we need another Agnetha CD.
Maxi-saxi :D
I want, I want, I want........Stamps his feet..
Re: Agnetha and her voice
platobird - 12.02.2008, 19:31
jacko10 wrote: I want, I want, I want........Stamps his feet..
Hold On! A tantrum will not get us more Agnetha. :shock:
There's more that can be said for a technical analysis of Agnetha's voice, but perhaps we should pause for a look at the possibilities of another album. Any analysis should start by creating a framework using the facts and key issues that are known. Then, we can extrapolate and propose hypotheses for yet unknown events. 8)
What are the facts:
1) Releasing an album is a complex and expensive process. Usually it's done to make a profit. Profits in the music business are generated by sales of albums - millions are good, and hundreds of thousands are needed to just break even. Her hard-core fans on this site are not enough - even if we each buy 100 albums.:?: For MCB, Agnetha was explicit that she would not travel for promotion. Who will finance a project with a singer who won't get out and meet the public? :?:
2) Creating an album, particularly one using her own songs, will be a major effort for Agnetha. When she did MCB, she said it took time and effort to regain her voice after the long break, and she's on a "short" break since then. (The older you are, the longer short breaks seem.) She's comfortably rich, why should she experience such pain? :?: (The older you are, the more pains you have. :lol: )
3) Although she's still known as ABBA-Agnetha, she would not perform ABBA type songs, so how will the album buying public respond? Can she write enough good melodies to attract an audience? Will she sing her old songs in Swedish? There's lots of competition for album sales, and the shelves in your local music store are packed full. :!:
4) The purity and quality of Agnetha's voice is not appreciated by all. :shock: Many singers use extreme vocal styles, shock lyrics, and sex to attract fans. I don't think Agnetha will join them. :!: Are Agnetha's melodies and singing style in tune with the times? :?:
These facts and real questions don't leave much room to hypothesize a course of action to obviate tantrums among extreme ABBA fans. :lol: Oh dear, we'll never get any new Agnetha songs. :( :cry:
But wait - there's a new wave on the horizon - web-based music that's "not available in stores!" For example, Joost (started by Swedes) is now up and running. Your local music store may soon be out of business. Here's an entertainment medium that might serve Agnetha to release a "few" new mucic (videos) with less effort than creating, distributing and promoting a CD album. :D I need to write her a letter! :wink:
Re: Agnetha and her voice
lemmon - 12.02.2008, 21:12
Platobird: you describe her voice so well!! I am impressed. That's why I love that voice so much: straightforword. holding a note. But with so much feeling. That's why she can do it all: disco/uptempo and ballads.
Re: Agnetha and her voice
Carribean - 12.02.2008, 22:49
lemmon wrote: Platobird: you describe her voice so well!! I am impressed. That's why I love that voice so much: straightforword. holding a note. But with so much feeling. That's why she can do it all: disco/uptempo and ballads.
I am in shock since I am actually agreeing with lemmon!
:shock: Lol :wink:
Re: Agnetha and her voice
jacko10 - 12.02.2008, 22:53
platobird wrote: jacko10 wrote: I want, I want, I want........Stamps his feet..
Hold On! A tantrum will not get us more Agnetha. :shock:
I still want!!
Jack
Re: Agnetha and her voice
drimnagh - 13.02.2008, 17:31
I disagree. A (group) tantrum might be JUST the thing to get us what we want! If all of us Agnetha fans throw our toys out of the pram at the same time (shades of the Chinese all jumping at the same time thus creating a tidal wave or some such.. :shock: :lol: ) it might have the desired effect on Agnetha- i.e. she may well record another CD just to shut us up- remember MCB?
Altogether now.... :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :sob:
:lol:
-J
Re: Agnetha and her voice
johnny59 - 13.02.2008, 19:33
:sob: :sob: :sob:
:rotfl:
Re: Agnetha and her voice
jacko10 - 13.02.2008, 21:09
oh stop ya Blubbering
hehe
Re: Agnetha and her voice
Maxi-saxi - 14.02.2008, 07:50
Will this work
:sob1: :sob1: :sob1: :sob1: :sob1: :sob1: :sob1: :sob1: :sob1: :sob1: :sob1: :sob1: :sob1: :sob1: :sob1: :sob1: :sob1: :sob1: :sob1: :sob1: :sob1: :sob1: :sob1: :sob1: :sob1: :sob1: :sob1: :sob1: :sob1: :sob1: :sob1: :sob1: :sob1: :sob1: :sob1: :sob1: :sob1: :sob1: :sob1: :sob1:
Pleaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaase.
Agnetha!
Maxi-saxi :roll:
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