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Sinikka - 19.11.2006, 22:15
The wealth of musical styles by ABBA
Hi there,
ABBA tried a lot of different musical genres or styles. Björn and Benny stated that they followed the tradition of Beatles and did not want to repeat the same hit over and over again. On the contrary, they wanted each song to be unique and different. The key word was "make it different". So how many different musical styles can you find?
ABBA was mainly a pop music band but Rock Me and Watch Out are clearly songs going towards rockier ABBA. Maybe also Hole In Your Soul would belong to the rock category.
Then another quite distintive a song is Tropical Loveland which is a reggae. And this song was made long before Bob Marley and reggae stepped to the musical arena. I did not know at the time listening to Tropical Loveland that it was a reggae. I realised it much later on.
Can you find other ABBA songs experimenting or exploring a certain musical style or genre? What are those songs and what do you think of them? Did ABBA succeed in those?
Anne
The wealth of musical styles by ABBA
Hi there,
ABBA tried a lot of different musical genres or styles. Björn and Benny stated that they followed the tradition of Beatles and did not want to repeat the same hit over and over again. On the contrary, they wanted each song to be unique and different. The key word was "make it different". So how many different musical styles can you find?
ABBA was mainly a pop music band but Rock Me and Watch Out are clearly songs going towards rockier ABBA. Maybe also Hole In Your Soul would belong to the rock category.
Then another quite distintive a song is Tropical Loveland which is a reggae. And this song was made long before Bob Marley and reggae stepped to the musical arena. I did not know at the time listening to Tropical Loveland that it was a reggae. I realised it much later on.
Can you find other ABBA songs experimenting or exploring a certain musical style or genre? What are those songs and what do you think of them? Did ABBA succeed in those?
Anne
Maxi-saxi - 20.11.2006, 06:07
Yes you have raised some very good points there, I believe ABBA acheived what they wanted to, I mean ask yourself, 8 studio Albums and a few compilations and 380 400million sales later,
Something must have worked
I guess the songs for me Is Tropical Loveland & Under Attack, there have been a few others I think
Eagle comes to mind
Maxi-saxi
Yes you have raised some very good points there, I believe ABBA acheived what they wanted to, I mean ask yourself, 8 studio Albums and a few compilations and 380 400million sales later,
Something must have worked
I guess the songs for me Is Tropical Loveland & Under Attack, there have been a few others I think
Eagle comes to mind
Maxi-saxi
Fire&Ice - 20.11.2006, 10:34
Eagle is a combination of soft rock and maybe alternative stream or something? Just my thoughts.. :D
Anne you are absolutely right! They did try out different musical styles and I like hearing them experiment! They weren't only a pure pop group, IMO.
Bob Marley and the Wailers (love them very much!) started working in 1963 and they achieved the breakthrough in 1973 with the album Catch A Fire. So they were all on the musical scene around that time, both Marley and B&B. I think they were inspired by Bob Marley for TL, which is great!
Some info on reggae:
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"Origins of Reggae
Reggae is an African Caribbean style of music developed on the island of Jamaica and is closely linked to the religion Rastafarianism, though not universally popular among its members. The origins of Reggae can be found in traditional African Caribbean music as well as US Rhythm & Blues. Ska and Rocksteady are 1960's precursors of reggae. Bob Marley, who later popularized the style on a world-wide basis, also recorded Rocksteady records early in his career. The style of reggae he made famous is called roots reggae or roots rock reggae, and is still used by many artists such as Black Uhuru, Burning Spear, Culture, Israel Vibrations, The Skatalites and Toots and The Maytals from Jamaica and UB40 from the UK. "
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The styles ABBA never used were punk (thank goodness :D ) and ska. I almost wanted to add rap (thank goodness again) but then I remembered rap did not exist at that time! :lol:
Eagle is a combination of soft rock and maybe alternative stream or something? Just my thoughts.. :D
Anne you are absolutely right! They did try out different musical styles and I like hearing them experiment! They weren't only a pure pop group, IMO.
Bob Marley and the Wailers (love them very much!) started working in 1963 and they achieved the breakthrough in 1973 with the album Catch A Fire. So they were all on the musical scene around that time, both Marley and B&B. I think they were inspired by Bob Marley for TL, which is great!
Some info on reggae:
==========================================
"Origins of Reggae
Reggae is an African Caribbean style of music developed on the island of Jamaica and is closely linked to the religion Rastafarianism, though not universally popular among its members. The origins of Reggae can be found in traditional African Caribbean music as well as US Rhythm & Blues. Ska and Rocksteady are 1960's precursors of reggae. Bob Marley, who later popularized the style on a world-wide basis, also recorded Rocksteady records early in his career. The style of reggae he made famous is called roots reggae or roots rock reggae, and is still used by many artists such as Black Uhuru, Burning Spear, Culture, Israel Vibrations, The Skatalites and Toots and The Maytals from Jamaica and UB40 from the UK. "
===============================================
The styles ABBA never used were punk (thank goodness :D ) and ska. I almost wanted to add rap (thank goodness again) but then I remembered rap did not exist at that time! :lol:
Anonymous - 20.11.2006, 14:03
abba's musical style
Abba had an unique and personnal style, not only pop, disco, reggae, folck etc.; their style imitated in the whole world and a great influence, again today for many musicians.
Of course, some abba's songs were influenced by different musical style's but, with the disco, for example, they don't copy this style but they adapted disco to their own music, without violin or too much disco's usuals arrangements.
For me, it's one the reason they never go out of fashion and they are universal.
Pierre
abba's musical style
Abba had an unique and personnal style, not only pop, disco, reggae, folck etc.; their style imitated in the whole world and a great influence, again today for many musicians.
Of course, some abba's songs were influenced by different musical style's but, with the disco, for example, they don't copy this style but they adapted disco to their own music, without violin or too much disco's usuals arrangements.
For me, it's one the reason they never go out of fashion and they are universal.
Pierre
John - 21.11.2006, 15:42
There are a lot of classically inspired pieces in the arrangements particularly evident in the keyboard and strings. Of course there are several types of folk music. There are elements of traditional Swedish (and European folk) in the fiddles particularly on Arrival and (I think) "Dum, Dum, Diddle" (even if it is electronic) and then there's the guitar strumming kind of folk which is a left over from the Hootenannies days evident on IHAD, "Another Town..." , "The Piper", "Move on", even "Fernando" and "Chiquitita" etc.
.... some real "Rock and Roll" in Waterloo, KIng Kong song, Rock Me etc. Hints of country and western in "Hasta Manana", and obviously "Burning My Bridges" but also in "Andante Andante" and "I've been Waiting for You".
There are a lot of classically inspired pieces in the arrangements particularly evident in the keyboard and strings. Of course there are several types of folk music. There are elements of traditional Swedish (and European folk) in the fiddles particularly on Arrival and (I think) "Dum, Dum, Diddle" (even if it is electronic) and then there's the guitar strumming kind of folk which is a left over from the Hootenannies days evident on IHAD, "Another Town..." , "The Piper", "Move on", even "Fernando" and "Chiquitita" etc.
.... some real "Rock and Roll" in Waterloo, KIng Kong song, Rock Me etc. Hints of country and western in "Hasta Manana", and obviously "Burning My Bridges" but also in "Andante Andante" and "I've been Waiting for You".
drimnagh - 21.11.2006, 16:18
Indeed they did try out a variety of styles and conquered them all with the possible exception of reggae. However, even here they had some success as the wondrous 'One Of Us' proved. I can't imagine it any other way now but of course it could have suited an altogether 'simpler' style perhaps. I think I want my cake and I want to eat it too! i.e, I demand that ABBA songs are remixed and re-released in every possible musical genre-NOW!! :lol:
Indeed they did try out a variety of styles and conquered them all with the possible exception of reggae. However, even here they had some success as the wondrous 'One Of Us' proved. I can't imagine it any other way now but of course it could have suited an altogether 'simpler' style perhaps. I think I want my cake and I want to eat it too! i.e, I demand that ABBA songs are remixed and re-released in every possible musical genre-NOW!! :lol:
Toni - 04.10.2007, 13:32
"Gonna Sing You My Lovesong": chanson
"I Do, I Do, I Do, I Do, I Do": Big Band
"I Wonder": musical
"She´s My Kind Of Girl": sixties beat
"Honey Honey": pop
"King Kong Song": rock
"Hasta manana": schlager
"Man In The Middle": funk
"Pa bröllop": folk
"Voulez-Vous": disco
"Get On The Carousel": avantegarde rock
"Intermezzo No. I": classic
"Burning My Bridges": country
I love their different styles!
Toni :rotate:
"Gonna Sing You My Lovesong": chanson
"I Do, I Do, I Do, I Do, I Do": Big Band
"I Wonder": musical
"She´s My Kind Of Girl": sixties beat
"Honey Honey": pop
"King Kong Song": rock
"Hasta manana": schlager
"Man In The Middle": funk
"Pa bröllop": folk
"Voulez-Vous": disco
"Get On The Carousel": avantegarde rock
"Intermezzo No. I": classic
"Burning My Bridges": country
I love their different styles!
Toni :rotate:
drimnagh - 04.10.2007, 14:07
Toni- cheers for doing that! It really brings it home how adept ABBA were at tackling different musical genres.
J
Toni- cheers for doing that! It really brings it home how adept ABBA were at tackling different musical genres.
J
restareabear - 04.10.2007, 18:16
Don't forget "Put on Your White Sombrero" with it's latin/salsa flavour.
Don't forget "Put on Your White Sombrero" with it's latin/salsa flavour.
Simsalabim - 04.10.2007, 18:28
Thanks for the list of songs! I didn't get the question first but now I do, and I like the songs were ABBA tried different music genres! :D
Thanks for the list of songs! I didn't get the question first but now I do, and I like the songs were ABBA tried different music genres! :D
Maxi-saxi - 04.10.2007, 23:15
Toni
Checking your list out it really comes to mind just how ABBA were trying with different styles.
So many great songs.
Maxi-saxi
Toni
Checking your list out it really comes to mind just how ABBA were trying with different styles.
So many great songs.
Maxi-saxi
Zeebee - 05.10.2007, 07:16
Don't forget Tropical Loveland, which is reggae.
Edit: :oops: Anne already mentioned Tropical Loveland.
Don't forget Tropical Loveland, which is reggae.
Edit: :oops: Anne already mentioned Tropical Loveland.
Visitor1982 - 05.10.2007, 08:53
Sitting In The Pamtree is also a reggae song...
Head Over Heels is a tango
Soldiers a waltz
My Mama Said has a R&B rythm
That's Me is some kind of country song. Sounds like a barnyard kind of thing, the backing bassline.
Sitting In The Pamtree is also a reggae song...
Head Over Heels is a tango
Soldiers a waltz
My Mama Said has a R&B rythm
That's Me is some kind of country song. Sounds like a barnyard kind of thing, the backing bassline.
storm approaching - 05.10.2007, 18:41
I'm really glad this thread was revived. I was about to make one myself; I'm a bit of a thicko when it comes to recognising genre.
I think I try to be too scientific about it. If I asked someone in the street what jazz was, they might say "it has sax in". But obviously not everything with sax in in jazz...
More on topic, are terms like 'tango' and 'waltz' genres, or rather names for rhythms... or does being names of rhythm make them genre names too? :oops: Coz that'll make things very complex.
I've specified my Winamp to display genre in the playlist so I can learn these things :roll: and I'm trying to input the genres that I can work out. I'm trying to be as specific as possible; having "pop" everywhere isn't gonna be very useful :P
So to keep things moving, what would Crazy World be?
Thanks
Daryl
I'm really glad this thread was revived. I was about to make one myself; I'm a bit of a thicko when it comes to recognising genre.
I think I try to be too scientific about it. If I asked someone in the street what jazz was, they might say "it has sax in". But obviously not everything with sax in in jazz...
More on topic, are terms like 'tango' and 'waltz' genres, or rather names for rhythms... or does being names of rhythm make them genre names too? :oops: Coz that'll make things very complex.
I've specified my Winamp to display genre in the playlist so I can learn these things :roll: and I'm trying to input the genres that I can work out. I'm trying to be as specific as possible; having "pop" everywhere isn't gonna be very useful :P
So to keep things moving, what would Crazy World be?
Thanks
Daryl
restareabear - 08.10.2007, 23:17
Crazy World: the best genre I can come up with is acoustic folk music.
Crazy World: the best genre I can come up with is acoustic folk music.
Maxi-saxi - 10.10.2007, 03:13
I've been giving that a lot of thought as well.
Crazy World is sort of hard to put into a category.
I think folk sums it up pretty well.
Maxi-saxi
I've been giving that a lot of thought as well.
Crazy World is sort of hard to put into a category.
I think folk sums it up pretty well.
Maxi-saxi
Fire&Ice - 10.10.2007, 11:42
Good questions storm approaching and thanks for the idea.
Which genres do the following songs belong to:
1. Lovers (live a...)
2. The King Has Lost His Crown
3. Chiquitita
4. Super Trouper
Good questions storm approaching and thanks for the idea.
Which genres do the following songs belong to:
1. Lovers (live a...)
2. The King Has Lost His Crown
3. Chiquitita
4. Super Trouper
Carribean - 10.10.2007, 16:15
restareabear wrote: Don't forget "Put on Your White Sombrero" with it's latin/salsa flavour.
Latin yes but Salsa no... not even Merengue. Far too slow!
But ABBA indeed did it all!
Disco (Summer Night City)
Jazzy Funk (My Mama Said)
sorta Rock (King Kong Song)
French oriented ballads (The Winner Takes It All)
Spanish oriented songs (Chiquitita)
Pure Pop (Dancing Queen)
early Techno (Lay All Your Love On Me)
Musical genre (I Let The Music Speak)
Adult Oriented Rock (Eagle)
Lullaby (Like An Angel Passing Through My Room)
Reggae (Tropical Loveland)
To name a few... Pretty Amazing! :wink:
restareabear wrote: Don't forget "Put on Your White Sombrero" with it's latin/salsa flavour.
Latin yes but Salsa no... not even Merengue. Far too slow!
But ABBA indeed did it all!
Disco (Summer Night City)
Jazzy Funk (My Mama Said)
sorta Rock (King Kong Song)
French oriented ballads (The Winner Takes It All)
Spanish oriented songs (Chiquitita)
Pure Pop (Dancing Queen)
early Techno (Lay All Your Love On Me)
Musical genre (I Let The Music Speak)
Adult Oriented Rock (Eagle)
Lullaby (Like An Angel Passing Through My Room)
Reggae (Tropical Loveland)
To name a few... Pretty Amazing! :wink:
restareabear - 10.10.2007, 17:31
Yes, right you are Carribbean, it's not salsa. I've been gone from Miami too long; I've forgotten my latin music styles!
Yes, right you are Carribbean, it's not salsa. I've been gone from Miami too long; I've forgotten my latin music styles!
Fire&Ice - 10.10.2007, 20:31
Carribean wrote:
Jazzy Funk (My Mama Said)
Musical genre (I Let The Music Speak)
The best description for MMSaid.
There is some classical music and opera in I let the music speak as well.
What is Lovers? Jazzy alternative music with a drop of funk or something??
The King could be Lady sings the (sort of) blues..hmmm
But what the heck is Super Trouper?? :shock: :D
Carribean wrote:
Jazzy Funk (My Mama Said)
Musical genre (I Let The Music Speak)
The best description for MMSaid.
There is some classical music and opera in I let the music speak as well.
What is Lovers? Jazzy alternative music with a drop of funk or something??
The King could be Lady sings the (sort of) blues..hmmm
But what the heck is Super Trouper?? :shock: :D
Toni - 11.10.2007, 18:44
Fire&Ice wrote: What is Lovers? Jazzy alternative music with a drop of funk or something??
The King could be Lady sings the (sort of) blues..hmmm
But what the heck is Super Trouper?? :shock: :D
I agree with "Lovers" and "The King...", Ivana.
To me "Super Trouper" and "Chiquitita" are pure pop. (Die hard rock fans may tend to call them "Middle Of The Road").
Toni :wink1:
Fire&Ice wrote: What is Lovers? Jazzy alternative music with a drop of funk or something??
The King could be Lady sings the (sort of) blues..hmmm
But what the heck is Super Trouper?? :shock: :D
I agree with "Lovers" and "The King...", Ivana.
To me "Super Trouper" and "Chiquitita" are pure pop. (Die hard rock fans may tend to call them "Middle Of The Road").
Toni :wink1:
Carribean - 12.10.2007, 07:11
Chiquitita pure pop?? I so do not agree! There are way to many European, Latin and even classical influences to call it that.
Take A Chance On Me, Dancing Queen and indeed Super Trouper are pure pop songs to my ears.
Chiquitita pure pop?? I so do not agree! There are way to many European, Latin and even classical influences to call it that.
Take A Chance On Me, Dancing Queen and indeed Super Trouper are pure pop songs to my ears.
storm approaching - 12.10.2007, 09:47
Fire&Ice wrote: Good questions storm approaching and thanks for the idea.
Thanks, no problem. I thought I'd killed this thread for a while there.
Fire&Ice wrote: Which genres do the following songs belong to:
1. Lovers (live a...)
2. The King Has Lost His Crown
3. Chiquitita
4. Super Trouper
I agree with you on I Let, and Lovers. I may not know quite how to associate a genre with a song most the time, but I certainly want to say they're jazzy.
The King - no idea. I associate it with Kisses for some reason. I doubt that's a useful comment tho :p. Actually the entire VV album tends to be fairly disco/jazz oriented. (yes, i can recognise disco haha)
I've listed Chiq as pop-folk.. I'm cheating I suspect :p
Super Trouper is certainly hard to be specific about; Tony, Carribean, you're probably right - it's just pop.
Fire&Ice wrote: Good questions storm approaching and thanks for the idea.
Thanks, no problem. I thought I'd killed this thread for a while there.
Fire&Ice wrote: Which genres do the following songs belong to:
1. Lovers (live a...)
2. The King Has Lost His Crown
3. Chiquitita
4. Super Trouper
I agree with you on I Let, and Lovers. I may not know quite how to associate a genre with a song most the time, but I certainly want to say they're jazzy.
The King - no idea. I associate it with Kisses for some reason. I doubt that's a useful comment tho :p. Actually the entire VV album tends to be fairly disco/jazz oriented. (yes, i can recognise disco haha)
I've listed Chiq as pop-folk.. I'm cheating I suspect :p
Super Trouper is certainly hard to be specific about; Tony, Carribean, you're probably right - it's just pop.
Fire&Ice - 13.10.2007, 11:38
storm approaching wrote:
I agree with you on I Let, and Lovers. I may not know quite how to associate a genre with a song most the time, but I certainly want to say they're jazzy.
:agree: In fact, I have always thought Gonna Sing You My Lovesong is quite jazzy as well.
storm approaching wrote: I've listed Chiq as pop-folk.. I'm cheating I suspect :p
I guess you are right, with Latin influence, definitely.
storm approaching wrote: Super Trouper is certainly hard to be specific about; Tony, Carribean, you're probably right - it's just pop.
It isn't just pure pop. I can agree on the verses, but the chorus? Doesn't sound like pure pop to me.. :P
storm approaching wrote:
I agree with you on I Let, and Lovers. I may not know quite how to associate a genre with a song most the time, but I certainly want to say they're jazzy.
:agree: In fact, I have always thought Gonna Sing You My Lovesong is quite jazzy as well.
storm approaching wrote: I've listed Chiq as pop-folk.. I'm cheating I suspect :p
I guess you are right, with Latin influence, definitely.
storm approaching wrote: Super Trouper is certainly hard to be specific about; Tony, Carribean, you're probably right - it's just pop.
It isn't just pure pop. I can agree on the verses, but the chorus? Doesn't sound like pure pop to me.. :P
storm approaching - 14.10.2007, 08:51
Fire&Ice wrote: It isn't just pure pop. I can agree on the verses, but the chorus? Doesn't sound like pure pop to me.. :P
You want to say it's folk don't you? :p
Folk with lotsa synth - awesome!
Fire&Ice wrote: It isn't just pure pop. I can agree on the verses, but the chorus? Doesn't sound like pure pop to me.. :P
You want to say it's folk don't you? :p
Folk with lotsa synth - awesome!
Fire&Ice - 14.10.2007, 17:06
storm approaching wrote:
You want to say it's folk don't you? :p
Neither pop nor folk.. hehe!
storm approaching wrote:
You want to say it's folk don't you? :p
Neither pop nor folk.. hehe!
storm approaching - 26.10.2007, 10:48
Fire&Ice wrote: The styles ABBA never used were punk (thank goodness :D ) and ska. I almost wanted to add rap (thank goodness again) but then I remembered rap did not exist at that time! :lol:
Could "One Night In Bangkok" from Chess count as ABBA rap?
Fire&Ice wrote: The styles ABBA never used were punk (thank goodness :D ) and ska. I almost wanted to add rap (thank goodness again) but then I remembered rap did not exist at that time! :lol:
Could "One Night In Bangkok" from Chess count as ABBA rap?
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