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Visitor1982 - 24.10.2006, 14:51

It's strange that the UK get's a CD version that includes Ring Ring and Summer Night City, whilst other countries don't. It's even more strange when you realise that those two songs from Number Ones reached the top in several countries, except for the UK.

Marnix

supertrouper - 24.10.2006, 16:27

It's all very strange to me. Especially when the bonus CD contains songs that were not even single releases. I guess the DVD has a few things fans might want to see.

Anthony. :)

Lutfi - 24.10.2006, 21:04

Hi Evryone,

I'm is not understand why for UK and to other countries is different release. If you know could you explain .

Moreover, now world is very small ,why not have help section for international shoping. Are we must to go to Uk or Sweden.

(I was open topic for ABBA SHOP where to put help shopping section)
From amazon.com or ebay.com delivery is difficault, why abbasite.com or who are official dealer is not distrubute to each continents same ABAB releases.

Kind regards
Lütfi

onlyabba4me - 25.10.2006, 15:40

Hello,
But the UK is not getting 'Summer Night City', & nowhere else is. That is not what the Universal Press Release says.

That ABBA Track is on ALL the 'Number Ones' CD's - around the World. The UK is getting the Extended 'Summer Night City' on 'Number One's' - but only on the Single CD - the 'Standard' one, as Universal call it. 'Ring Ring' will also be on the Single CD in the UK. I am not sure if the usual version of 'SNC' will also be on the Single UK CD, or if the Extended version completely replaces it.

Either way, neither the Extended 'SNC', nor 'Ring Ring', will be on the Double UK CD. Nor will they be on the Single OR Double CD anywhere else, in the World.

The whole thing is silly really, as of the 18 Tracks on the Single CD, (CD1 in the Double Set), 16 are on 'Gold' - so how many people are going to buy the Single CD, just to get 2 Tracks, that they do not have on 'Gold'? How many will buy it in the UK, just to get 3 Tracks that they do not have on 'Gold'. ('Ring Ring' being added here).

'Gold' is already the 3rd or 4th Best Seller - ever in the UK, & now 'Number Ones' is to come out with 16 Tracks off 'Gold' on it!

The trouble is that Universal can release as many ABBA Compilations as they like. The other problem is that Benny & Bjorn refuse to let them do Remixes, or to Remix ABBA songs themselvres - so the same old Tracks keep coming out.

As to CD2, in the Double Set, being a 'Bonus' CD. Bonus is supposed to mean that you get it as an extra CD - free - with a Single CD. So how come the 2 CD Set is more expensive to buy - everywhere - then the Single CD? It is not a 'Bonus' at all - not when you have to pay for it.

When will this exploitation of ABBA Fans stop? In November, Beatles Fans get a 26 Track Album of Beatles Remixes - ABBA Fans get the same old ABBA Songs yet again.

So a great many ABBA Fans will just ignore the ABBA CD.

abbascots - 26.10.2006, 00:27

Hello Onlyabba4me in the uk standard version Ring Ring and Summer night city extended versions are included in the uk Cd on the international standard Cd they are not but they are included in the international bonus limited version,as there is two versions for uk and international releases :) Gniblett i will buy this for the dvd specials as i also have most ABBA releases in the last 10 yrs or so Regards johnsteven :D

abbagav - 27.10.2006, 23:16

Is anyone else baffled by the choice of songs on the edition with the second cd - I know we all have different tastes but if it was down to me I would have picked many different tunes...not from a personal preference point of view but songs that for example were intended to be singles like IIWFTN or others that are fan favourites?

Perhaps I just feel too close to ABBA to judge properly!

abbagav

abbascots - 30.10.2006, 07:07

Hello Maxi-saxi
Hear is the information for the DVD Extras
Top 1974
Top of the pops performance of waterloo (live) on 11 April 1974
(A week after winning the Eurovision)
Hie Sveis!
Recorded on 30th August 1975 Momarkedet, Norway
I do I do I do,
Sos,
Waterloo,
BBC 2
last performance as a group on late late Breakfast Show on 11th December 1982
Under Attack,
I have a dream,
Iteractive scrapbook with details of all ABBA No #1s hits :D

abbascots - 05.11.2006, 15:27

Thanks Toggler for info,I thought it was due next week,I heard that the advert is out for the uk i have not saw it yet,There is a couple of different quotes on the cover thou from sites around the web,Looking forword to the dvd Regards johnsteven :D

onlyabba4me - 08.11.2006, 15:51

Hello,
I do not know whether the Extended 'Summer Night City', & 'Ring Ring', (usual version), are on the Double CD, outside the UK. Everything that I have seen suggests that they are not. That they are only on the UK versions of both CD's.

'Number Ones' (the Single CD), will be in the UK Album Chart on Sunday 12th November. However - as many have predicted - it does not look like being a big Hit. In the UK Mid Week Chart, it is somewhere between Number 21 and 30, at present. It may improve on this by Sunday 12th, but it may not. We shall see. (The UK Chart is compiled all Week, and every few days a Mid Week Chart is created - for the UK Music Industry - so they can see how the Chart looks so far).

The truth is that 'Number Ones' is really 'Gold' all over again - with 3 Tracks removed, & 3 added. It has 16 Tracks on it that are on 'Gold'. To be a big success it had to either attract a new audience for ABBA, or it had to sell to people who already had 'Gold'. It looks like it will not succeed in doing either very well. A Remixed Single would have helped, but Benny & Bjorn refuse to allow such things.

Some ABBA Fans were actually thinking that it was going to be a UK Number 1 or Number 2 Album. it had no chance. It had to be different & special to achieve that, & it was neither. It was the, 'Same Old, Same Old', as they say. (S.O.S. - Same Old Songs).

Also, the 2nd Disc in the 2 CD Set is NOT a 'Bonus Disc'. That suggests that it is free - a gift - and it is not. Everywhere expects you to pay more for the 2 CD Set, than for the Single CD. That means that the so called 'Bonus' is not any such thing. If you have to pay for the 2nd Disc - which you do - then it is a Double CD, & not a Single CD with a Bonus Disc added. There is a difference.....

In 2004, Universal released 'Gold' again in the UK, with an 18 Track DVD as a Bonus Disc with it. That was a true Bonus - the 2 Discs were the same price as the usual 1 Disc 'Gold'. The 2006 2 CD Set is not the same - at all. It is wrong to call CD2 a 'Bonus'. I do not know why any ABBA Fans keep calling it a 'Bonus' when you have to pay for it.

So, why did Universal choose the 12 Tracks on CD2? Answer - the idea is to give ABBA buyers a taste of what ABBA's Studio Albums are like. The truth is that most buyers of 'Gold' have never bought an ABBA Studio Album. They are not sure if they would be worth buying. The 12 Track CD is an attempt to let them hear some ABBA Songs that are Album Tracks. An attempt to persuade more people to buy ABBA Studio Albums.

That is why there are Tracks off both 'Ring Ring' & 'Waterloo' on CD2 - even though they are really weaker than Tracks that are not on it, from later Albums - 'If It Wasn't For The Nights', 'As Good As New', 'Move On', etc.

Those Tracks should ALSO have been on CD2, as Universal are making people pay for the 2nd CD. It is a scandal that it only has 12 Tracks on it. It would be one thing for so few Tracks to be on it, if it were a genuine Bonus - as in Free - but not when you have to pay for it. That just comes across as Universal being mean & stupid - both at the same time.....

Anyhow, with the UK showing so little enthusiasm for 'Number Ones', I think that Universal now realise that they can no longer just put out the same old ABBA Singles on CD after CD and have big sales. The UK is saying:, 'Give us something different by ABBA, or stop releasing ABBA CD's!'. That is the message that the UK is sending out.

Hopefully other Countries will be sending out the same message - by not making the CD a big Hit.....

In the meantime, 'Love', by The Beatles is a Remix Album - you get 26 Tracks on one version, & 52 Tracks on the Double CD. The 2 remaining Beatles wanted Beatles Fans to hear Beatles Songs in a new way - as a treat and a reward. Benny & Bjorn just want ABBA Fans to forever hear ABBA Songs in the same old way! Benny & Bjorn will not Remix anything for ABBA Fans - or allow anyone else to do it.

I think that the 2 ABBA Guys are Decades out of date with this view. They really are out of touch.....It shows.

Gniblett - 08.11.2006, 18:22

There are a finite number of ABBA songs and these have been released in various compilations so many times now apart from the original albums that another release of Number Ones does seem a bit daft.

As many of us have discovered on YouTube there is a wealth of video images of ABBA out there, NOW that is where genuine "new" releases on DVD can be justified surely!

abbascots - 08.11.2006, 18:39

Hello Gniblett i agree with you totaly,meaning we just got Arrival album and then this one, i love the late late breakfast shows so thats the main reasons for buying, I would love there to be a DVD with all these recordings the ones from all television appearances but i think we would have to wait for them maybe 1 at a time they will be released :lol:

Gniblett - 08.11.2006, 19:41

That's another reason why it's a crying shame the ABBA Site Forum has closed down, as that was a way to communicate with Universal. Now unless they visit a Forum like this one they are more isolated.

Somehow I feel a Forum gives a far better test of people's feelings as it is more spontaneous than letters. Ho hum.

abbascots - 08.11.2006, 20:02

You are correct gniblett i agree it was in many ways the only contact with Universal and to some a closer bond to ABBA ,Diego you do have valid points and i agree to some but i think they did take some of our opinions into consideration sometimes,
Regards johnsteven :)

abbascots - 08.11.2006, 20:09

We posted at the same time gniblett :shock: I couldnt have said better myself this is basicaly it in a nut shell :D

abbascots - 08.11.2006, 20:54

No Diego i would not say to you dont buy,Its up to you what you decide to do regarding Universal releases,As ive said you have points and maybe they may be true,We can only hope they listen in the future to what fans want! Regards johnsteven :D

onlyabba4me - 10.11.2006, 14:02

Hello,
When I said that Benny & Bjorn were 'out of date', I meant that whilst a great many Acts allow Remixes for their Fans those 2 Guys will not allow it. (Blondie, Boney M, The Police, etc. have all had UK Hits with Remixes in the past 10 Years - ABBA never have Singles out - unless we have had exactly the same Singles before!).

Whilst it is true that Universal can release as many ABBA Compilations as they like, it is also true that Benny & Bjorn have a Veto over what can be done with ABBA Tracks. For example, they will not alow Universal to Remix anything. They will not Remix anything themselves. (I would prefer the 2 Guys to do it themselves, as I think that only they would understand how to treat an ABBA Single with enough care & respect, to do the job neatly, well, & convincingly). I have been told many times that Universal want to Remix ABBA Songs - so they can make the Compilations more attractive to the Fans - and to get more, 'Casual ABBA Buyers', attracted to the Compilations - by releasing Remixes from those Compilations as Singles).

It is Benny & Bjorn who will not allow it. Their excuse is always the same:, 'It would be like admitting that we never got the songs right the first time'.

That excuse is all very well, but they know that Universal want to keep trying to make money out of ABBA Compilations - so they know perfectly well, that this means we will see the same old ABBA Songs released time & time again. (Believe me - 'Number Ones' will NOT be the last time! It is only the latest!).

However, the 2 Guys seem happy to sit back & let that happen - Universal struggle to attract new buyers, & the Fans get tired of seeing the old Songs forever being re-issued.

It is Benny & Bjorn who have the power to either allow Universal to do Remixes - or to do them themselves. Always the answer is:, 'No'.

To me, it becomes less & less excusable - they know very well what the result will be - the same old Songs - usually the Singles - being put out by Universal - time after time. (After all, Universal want to make money - and if Benny & Bjorn won't help them, then they will try anyhow).

Universal also wanted to put out Album Tracks as Singles in 1992 & 1994, but Benny & Bjorn made a Rule about that too:, 'No ABBA Singles are to come out that were not Singles when ABBA were together'.

Right from 1992 onwards they made that Rule - first for Polydor, then for Universal. It is true that in 1999, they allowed 'Happy New Year' to be a Single in a few Countries, (late in the Year) - and it reached Number 15 in Holland, I believe. However, 'Happy New Year' is hardly a Single that was going to make Millions of 'new' people 'discover' ABBA Album Tracks - it is rather weak in my view.

I believe that Universal wanted to release far more exciting ABBA Singles than that, but always the answer was:, 'No'.

Benny & Bjorn have effectively tied Universal's hands. The Record Company feel that all they can do is to try & squeeze a few extra thousand UK Sales here, a few thousand German Sales there, & so on - by releasing endless Compilations - of mainly the old ABBA Singles.

The truth is that a great many people only have one ABBA Album - 'Gold'. They do not know Tracks like 'Tiger', or 'If It Wasn't For The Nights' etc. - they never buy ABBA Studio Albums. They are afraid to do so, incase they find that they only like the Singles on them. They are scared of wasting their money. To attract such people, you have to release album Tracks as Singles - and Promote them.

So that many people would say, 'Hey! That is good! ABBA Studio Albums must be more than just the Singles after all!"'.

However, it was never allowed to happan. Benny & Bjorn will only allow old ABBA Singles to be 'new' Singles - and Universal know that as everyone interested has them on 'Gold', they can neither have Big Hits with such Singles, nor get people interested in any ABBA Compilation - or Studio Album - that they are taken off to Promote. Record Buyers will just hear the old ABBA Single on the Radio & say:, 'Not again!' - & show no interest in either buying the Single, or any ABBA CD that it is lifted off.

Another method would be for Universal to get an ABBA Single Remixed - altered in some way - then send it to Dance Clubs, to get attention that way. Then to Radio DJ's - so people see that - at last!!! - something different is being done with an old ABBA Single. But, Benny & Bjorn will not allow Remixes - so Universal cannot do it. (And I have been assured that Universal have long wanted to do it).

Finally - Benny & Bjorn will not allow any more Tracks Unreleased by ABBA to be Singles. All of a sudden Bjorn says that a complete version of 'Just Like That' does not exist, & we therefore cannot have one, as an Album Track, or a Single. That is not the impression he & Benny gave in the past. We were told that, 'Just Like That', could not be released in full as they were not that happy with it as an ABBA Track - that they felt it was not good enough. Then - later - that we could not have it, as they had used its Melody in a Song, in the Swedish 'Chess', a few Years ago.

Now - all of a sudden - we are told that it never existed as a complete ABBA recording in the first place!

Anyhow, whether we are being told the truth or not, is irrelevent - Benny & Bjorn are very, very skilled Producers, & they know perfectly well that they could easily work on, 'Just Like That', to turn it into a decent 4 Minute ABBA Single - but, they make every excuse they can think of, & will not lift a finger to touch it.

So, Benny & Bjorn have these Powers over the ABBA Back Catalogue - Universal cannot do Remixes, nor release Album Tracks as Singles, - nor will they let Universal have any more Unreleased ABBA Recordings.

It means that as Universal want to make money out of ABBA, they feel they have no choice but to find new ways to try to sell the same old Singles - in the same old versions - on yet more Compilations.

Benny & Bjorn know that they have created this situation. No one wins. The Fans lose out, & get angry, at the same Songs forever being released. Universal get upset, as they know they cannot sell ABBA Music hugely well, if it is nothing but the old Singles all the time. Benny & Bjorn lose out, as they end up making Fans angry at them - as well as looking like they could not care less what the Fans think - about them, or about ABBA.

If Benny & Bjorn think that this is a sensible way to behave, then they may be great in the Recording Studio, but they are pretty terrible at working out Human Nature - and how to treat ABBA Fans with respect.....

Maxi-saxi - 28.11.2006, 04:14

I can't see how both Bjorn And Benny can say that JUST LIKE THAT is uncompleted.

Rubbish.


International ABBA Magazine stated clearly that This song was ment to be concluded along with Just A notion onThe Singles The First Ten Years, also they were both ment to be on The Fourth Disc of the THANKYOU FOR THE MUSICn release but were withdran at the last minute.

If this song is so called uncompleted why did Mickel Tretow remaster this song to put on the 2001 reissues of the ABBA Cd's?


Maxi-saxi :roll:

Didi - 28.11.2006, 21:02
Just Like That...
The only way really Just Like That was released (apart from embedded in the Undeleted long track on the 94 box set) was as a promotional single, even then it was not the "lead" song, "Dreamworld" was the lead song, with "Just Like That", "Put On Your White Sombrero" and "Thank You For The Music-Doris Day version" as "other" tracks on this promo single.

They must have dabbled in the thought of a single, as promo singles are put out to go to radio stations to monitor reactions during it's promotion. Maybe the single or the contents did not arouse too much interest as this promo single eventually was just that, no proper single followed. So if they thought "Just Like That" good enough to go onto a promo single, surely it was considered good enough for a proper release if the reaction had been more favourable....

Another "kind of" promo single was included in Forever Gold, this time "Put On Your While Sombrero" was the "lead" song... another try at getting a positive reaction? I have both, and am puzzled as to what really the thoughts behind these singles were...

Diego

Didi - 28.11.2006, 21:58
erm...
So, more or less as I said above then, hehe

Diego

Didi - 29.11.2006, 03:12
Eeek!
Yes, I was all geared up for "Put On Your White Sombrero" to be released and it never hapenned. There again, it meant I wouldn't have to dig the trench I was going to dig to lie down and die in, it is not their best now is it!

Diego

Maxi-saxi - 01.12.2006, 04:47

Thanks Joe,

Now we all know the truth about JUST LIKE THAT, and I too have the promotional single Dreamworld which was released to promote the box set from 1994, I also managed to get the Americian one as well, It had the full 20 minutes of the ABBA undeleted track on as well as Dancing Queen, Fernando & Knowing Me Knowing You.




Maxi-saxi :roll:

Maxi-saxi - 03.12.2006, 06:56

I was told they do listern to us but it comes down to Bjorn & Benny,

I'm afraid they are what you could call as a Stumbling Block, I for one hope time hopefully will mend there ways, So they can say yes to a Remix Cd of ABBA songs.
One day they may give in I mean I may be absent with memory in a old folks home.

Well I'm sticking to my saying never say never, if you recall Agnetha's Manager denied all rumours of A recording by her But then My Colouring Book appeared,

Maxi-saxi :lol:

Regina - 04.12.2006, 23:07

I begged Benny to publish "Just like that" in October 1994 when we did an interview with him. He replied "We won't release it as a complete song because there isn't a good quality version of this song we have done." And I said to him "But I have got this song in very good quality" --- well, he kept his opinion that there either wasn't a complete version or just a snippet of the song (published in the box set) in good quality :cry:

Regina

Carribean - 05.12.2006, 06:32

Maxi-saxi wrote:
Well I'm sticking to my saying never say never, if you recall Agnetha's Manager denied all rumours of A recording by her But then My Colouring Book appeared,

Maxi-saxi :lol:

This was not denied at all.

As early as 2000 it was confirmed that Agnetha was listening to music with the option of recording again.
Gorel Hanser responded that Benny & Bjorn were shocked but felt it was 'great fun' that Agnetha was about to make a comeback.

Visitor1982 - 14.12.2006, 12:25

[quote="Carribean"][quote="Maxi-saxi"]
Well I'm sticking to my saying never say never, if you recall Agnetha's Manager denied all rumours of A recording by her But then My Colouring Book appeared,

Maxi-saxi :lol:[/quote]

This was not denied at all.

As early as 2000 it was confirmed that Agnetha was listening to music with the option of recording again.
Gorel Hanser responded that Benny & Bjorn were shocked but felt it was 'great fun' that Agnetha was about to make a comeback.[/quote]

Staffan Linde, Agnetha's manager denied all rumours of Agnetha recording again when Fred Tonnon revealed in 2002 that Agnetha was recording a new album with old songs that were important to her from her youth. I remember that very clearly.

B.t.w. ABBA Number Ones has entered the Dutch charts at number 87!

Didi - 18.12.2006, 19:16

It has taken this disaster maybe for them to begin to listen to us? Myself and quite a few others here have been saying for quite a long time now, that we will willingly support ABBA always, but only if the record company supports some understanding that as time goes by the proliferation of their material is now maxed out. What is needed, and I will say it again, is imagination on the part of the teams that sit around a table at head office and think of ideas.

It was all so very simple to repack the same singles and album tracks and design a new cover. We can do that for ourselves and I do that too to revamp my own private collection, however when it comes to me sitting down alone and thinking up an idea, I scout around my own collection for rarities and interesting clips that just are not being made available to us by the main official company. I then put together what in my opinion is something I would like to see made officially. I can only do what I can with limited source material. They have all the contacts at their disposal to begin an overhaul project and let us all in on these clips we all have in our collections, and clips and shows that are held all over the world in various vaults and archives gathering dust or degrading beyond any future possible restoration.

What will it take for them to realise?

Diego

Didi - 19.12.2006, 20:32

Today I saw it down at a sad number 67 in the UK chart in HMV, doing terribly.

Says it all really, even joe public are tired of the same tracks in a new package!

Diego

onlyabba4me - 25.12.2006, 00:15

1) 'Number One's' has risen from 68 to 64, in the latest UK Album Chart, which came out today. It sold about 16,000 to 18,000 to make the 4 place rise, as Sales are high at Christmas, even for low Album Chart Positions. It is its 7th Chart Week.

So far:,

15 - 30 - 47 - 55 - 66 - 68 - 64

(The big Chart news in the UK, is that Take That's come back Album, ('Beautiful World'), sold 443,000, to spend a 4th Week at Number 1. A gigantic UK Album Sale - one of the biggest ever in a Week. It sold 229,000 last Week, so a 443,000 Sale even far out does that. It is because there has been huge interest in Take That, after they decided to reform after a 10.5 Year 'break'. If only ABBA had come back in 1992 - they were always bigger than Take That. The Take That Album has sold around 1,040,000 in the UK in just 4 Weeks - ABBA have not sold an Album that fast here since, 'Super Trouper', in 1980).

2) In Ireland, 'Number Ones' rises from 76 to 69. As in the UK, it is its 7th Chart Week there.

3) In Austria it rises from 44 to 36.

4) In Estonia, it falls from 3 to 9 - The Single Disk Version.

So far:, 5 - 8 - 3 - 9

Also in Estonia the Double Disk Version Re-Charts at Number 29.

So far:, 9 - 0 - 0 - 29

5) In Sweden, 'Number Ones' holds at Number 27

So far:, 46 - 43 - 27 - 27

6) In Denmark, the 'slimmed down' 'Complete Studio Recordings' rises from 19 to 18.

So far, it has done this in Denmark:,

28 - 18 - 24 - 19 - 18

Didi - 26.12.2006, 18:56

A disaster as predicted, now is the time to delete this mistake and re install Gold, but for God's sake, don't even think of re-issuing it as a "Limited Edition 2007" as we all now know the games Universal play with those words.

Diego

abbascots - 05.01.2007, 19:55

I bought the Abba number ones dvd and the performances from The late late breakfast show are brilliant,The picture and sound on Under Attack and I have a dream are superb quality,The I do I do I do,Sos,Waterloo, Norway 1975 Hei Sveis performances are really good as well as the Top of the pops Waterloo 1974 performance,Just for these performances alone the dvd is a good buy Regards johnsteven :D

abbascots - 06.01.2007, 01:46

Hi Diego
Yes i noticed i agree they could have added digital stereo,I do however think the picture quality is fantastic,Overall im pretty pleased with the dvd
Regards johnsteven :wink:

abbascots - 09.01.2007, 02:58

Thanks for info Visitor1982 and all others,It seems that Number ones keeps popping up and down the charts especialy in europe
Regards johnsteven :wink:

DistantDrums - 10.01.2007, 22:46

Yes, that it is :wine: . I just wish The Kiwis had done this for the multi-platinum, mega-selling "Gold" instead. It may have put the "Kiss of Death" on that one.

Willie

Joe - 11.01.2007, 00:03

Is it really good news?

On one hand it might make Universal believe that there is a sense in doing new ABBA releases, but on the other hand it shows that they can still make it with yet another "cheap" compilation.

By the way: I wonder, if anybody here actually has noticed that they've used the alternate mix of Ring Ring for the DVD? I think this at least was a good idea to make it a bit more different.

Joachim

Maxi-saxi - 11.01.2007, 11:07

Joe wrote: Is it really good news?

On one hand it might make Universal believe that there is a sense in doing new ABBA releases, but on the other hand it shows that they can still make it with yet another "cheap" compilation.

By the way: I wonder, if anybody here actually has noticed that they've used the alternate mix of Ring Ring for the DVD? I think this at least was a good idea to make it a bit more different.

Joachim

Yes I noticed the alternate mix of Ring Ring, pity though it wasn't a different clip.

Maxi-saxi :wink:

abbascots - 11.01.2007, 14:39

Hi Maxi-saxi i know you like to buy more than one copy of each song sometimes even different releases ect but you sure have been busy with number ones :lol: :wink: you should buy the Tiawanese boxset its fantastic not the single cd but the 2 cd boxset it has a brilliant bonus hidden mega mix included and is housed in a unique tiawan only beutiful carving shape of Abba (characters) box,It also has the original booklet plus a unique tiawan only 8 page booklet that contains photos and covers of all singles included in disc 1 :wink: Joe im very happy about the dvd though i havnt watched all performances yet i only watched the Late late breakfast shows and i love those performances, i havent seen the ring ring performance yet, Joe and Marnix thankyou very much for all info on ring ring i did not know about this :wink:
Cheers johnsteven

abbascots - 12.01.2007, 15:56

I agree maxi-saxi :wink:,Brill you got your tiawanese box ,Its fab!
Regards johnsteven :)

abbascots - 15.04.2007, 20:02

Hello
I have a few releases from different countries clock with lemon for me the best by far is the Tiawanese release as it has the hidden megamix on the 2 cd boxset the megamix was only released in tiawan you can purchace from ebay some of the 2cd sets are reasonbly priced!
Johnsteven