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Beteiligte Poster: IMassAcolyte - Viziroth - Meh - Omerta - tegeus-Cromis - nooK - Forbidden - Anton - Lyncor - Shadow Phoenix
Forum: Samurai Legends
Forenbeschreibung: Official forums
aus dem Unterforum: Balance Issues
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Forum gestartet am: Mittwoch 06.10.2004
Sprache: englisch
Link zum Originaltopic: Warlord
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IMassAcolyte - 23.09.2006, 09:43
Warlord
Problem #1: Warlord is still bugged. Even after the update where he heals multiple times... He cant do that any more, but his heal is still far too high. Im currently in a game and this guy is 2v1 a Yari and a No-Dachi. It started out as a 4v4 but people left and hes alone. We didnt feed at all and hes withstanding blows by constantly healing.

Suggestion (1): Make Cooldown longer than it is currently for Shoguns Glory.

Suggestion (2): Reduce maximum heal that Shoguns Glory heals in general.

Problem #2: Teppo. Good damage on ability but the slow is WAY TOO SLOW. the duration calculation is fine but 50%? I know if you get shot you wont be walking all too fast, but they have armor to soften the blow. Plus this is a video game so it doesnt have to be realistic. Cooldown is good as well. Only thing that needs to be fixed is the percentage.

Please fix ><

Viziroth - 23.09.2006, 23:41

I honestly see no problem w/ the new warlord, execpt either he's really heavy or he just has a horrible horse(he moves so slow for a mounted char >.<) But yeah i could see the heal being a problem, especially when you're facing him and a str based hero, maybe raise the cooldown 5secs depending on what it is now.

Meh - 24.09.2006, 09:35

Bah the Warlord does not have that much mana to spam with even being an int based hero :\
Warlord moves so slow that it makes up imo the slow that teppo has, but then I have not really played very many games with the new warlord.

Omerta - 24.09.2006, 10:13

IMassAcolyte:
He is bug-free as far as I know, being imbalanced doesn't mean he is bugged. Teppo is fine, but his heal should should have shorter range, its huge at the moment.

Viziroth:
Movespeed is set for balance reasons, not for his graphics. (and he received movespeed bonus from Shotgun's glory in 0.7)

tegeus-Cromis - 24.09.2006, 10:28

What's wrong with the range on his heal? I don't see a balance issue there.

Omerta - 24.09.2006, 10:30

As I said, its huge and it heals a lot for that large area in addition to boosting attack speed.

nooK - 24.09.2006, 11:32

Warlord, Yumi and Ninja have the fastest movement speed in SL..
Maybe I will increase heal cd by 5.
And mana cost of Banner a bit.

Seems like EVERY hero in SL is so imba.

Forbidden - 24.09.2006, 11:41

In the hands of a skilled player many of them seem to be.

IMassAcolyte - 24.09.2006, 22:13

When i said bugged, i meant unbalanced... Not necessarily BUGGED.

Anton - 01.03.2007, 03:05

just because a player knows how to use a hero well dose not make him imba. this is because allot of the spells of the heroes in SL require skill. which means a player who has mastered the use of theres skill requiring spells is going to be better than normal players. the imba heroes are the ones in SL that require no or little skill to slaughter with(eg no-dachi).

Lyncor - 01.03.2007, 03:55

Teppo is one of the only slows in the game. As such, it's a good slow.

If you want to nerf it, nerf the damage.

In terms of For the Shogun's Glory - I think the range/magnitude/etc is fine... if you must nerf it, then give it a longer cooldown by about 5 seconds.

Dragon Souls is, and always has been (Since I started playing anyway), just fine.

If you -must- nerf the Warlord, though.. nerf the banner. It's rather insanely awesome at the moment, when you put it with an army or huge push.

Now, on the subject of the majority of the heroes in SL - of course a hero will look imba if you see a good player using it against people that aren't as good. The reality of it is that, in a game full of extremely good players, the only balance issues that arise are with -skillless- heroes.. which is what Anton was getting at. Heroes that are almost impossible to counter with skill leave good players feeling cheated - not defeated. Kind of what Anton was getting at.

That said, the Warlord is the most powerful (Non-dachi) hero at the moment in my opinion. Perhaps he could do with a -very small- nerf.

Shadow Phoenix - 10.03.2007, 11:05

Personally i think hes fine, just fine and fantastic.

I dont think banner is too much of an issue, since the majority of WL players dont get it until the end cause Teppo and Heal are just SO much more fun and essential.

Thus is makes a decent end game skill to help the game finish.
And he takes alot of skill to play perfectly, a great hero, definately one of the best.

Now just gotta fix that Onmy and the No-(Skill)-Dachi ;)

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