Hej Gamle Man your opinions

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abbascots - 28.07.2010, 23:41
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billydog wrote: I read somewhere that Frida considers this the first real ABBA song...do you agree, or not :?:

S x

If Frida says its ABBA then its ABBA no question :lol: :wink:

JS

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billydog - 28.07.2010, 23:54

Im undecided too. Half of me says it is because I can hear all four of them and, I do like the german version more than the original but, Im going to see what everyone else's take on this one is before I form an opinion.....sitting on the fence emoticon required Johnny :lol:

S x

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Hummer3 - 29.07.2010, 03:34

It may not be an ABBA song, but it IS a song that was recorded by Agnetha, Benny, Bjorn and Frida.

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billydog - 29.07.2010, 10:13

Waterloo, Hummer3 and Toni. I appreciate what you all say thats why I think I have so much trouble making a decision about this song :roll:

S x

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gerald - 29.07.2010, 12:35

Hi,
For me it's an ABBA song and not a anonymous one, this is the first one ever. :wink: :wink:
I love that one and especially the german version that sound more great .
"ABBA" was named like that later and it doesn't count under which named they has been released it . This is their fist works together , so this is ABBA
Gérald

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johnny59 - 29.07.2010, 12:53

lovepigeon wrote: A song is only an Abba song for me if Abba put their name on it,

Sounds logical in a nutshell. Can we end the debates now? :lol:

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Anonymous - 29.07.2010, 16:52

hamlet3 wrote: Why is "Ah Vilka Tider" seen so obscure? :lol:
I never got this. It's a never-on-an-album b-side that has never been recorded in another language. That's the same with You Owe Me One for example...

I think it's because it wasn't distributed internationally, it's the only commercially released 'Abba' song sung exclusively in Swedish, and it was years before it got any real commercial recognition. For a long time, I think the Swedish Ring Ring single was the only official release that featured it. Sure, You Owe Me One seemed fairly overlooked until the box set came out, but it had been released worldwide and copies of the Under Attack singles have pretty much always been ten a penny, so the song was easy to get hold of. AVT was always far less accessible; I don't think I even heard it until my early twenties, and that was on an unofficial CD.

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iancee - 29.07.2010, 23:11

Until 1994 Åh, vilka tider was only releaed on the Ring Ring single. It has only appeared on 4 CDs - Agnetha, Björn, Benny, Annifrid - På Svenska (1994), Bonus Disc in the Japanese box set 30th Anniversary Original Album Box (2004), 18 Hits - Svenska Popklassiker (Swedish CD, 2005) and a bonus track on Ring Ring in The Complete Studio Recordings box set (2005).

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billydog - 03.10.2010, 03:32

:roll: oops, everyones getting excited here, I still can't decide wether it is or isnt so I won't vote just yet. When was the german version recorded?
Was it when they were recording as ABBA (Think this happened during sessions for the Waterloo album) or when the were Bjorn,Benny & Agnetha,Anni-frid? should we break songs into these devisions as well?

S x

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mozpiano2 - 03.10.2010, 07:19

lovepigeon wrote: A song is only an Abba song for me if Abba put their name on it,

So using that logic, would technically the Ring Ring album NOT be an ABBA album as the name was "Björn, Benny, Agnetha & Frida" and not "ABBA"?

Rudolf

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Geordiegirl - 03.10.2010, 19:29

I've finally managed to make up my mind. I voted for no, based on the fact that when they recorded it the plan was always for it to be on a B & B album. The group members have always said words to the effect of they wanted female backing vocals on it so decideded to use their girlfriends, thus meaning they felt they could use any female backing singers, which we all know was not the case a couple of years later. Gill

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Geordiegirl - 03.10.2010, 20:00

I agree with you Rich, the difference between HGM & PNL/HIYB is that the intention with the last two was always to release it crediting the four of them, regardless of whether they were a permentant group at the time or not. Gill

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abbangelears - 05.10.2010, 00:19

Well, it's an Abba song. I don't see any reason to take it out. Bjorn and Benny wrote it and the four members are there for the first time. I don't care about labels or any exterior reference. For the world and for the music companies it can be whatever it might be, bust for me it's the first Abba song.

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billydog - 08.10.2010, 01:19

Thanks Gray & abbangelears, I really can see why peoples opinions here seem so different 8)

S x

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Geordiegirl - 08.10.2010, 22:11

Josie wrote: I would like to call it an ABBA song, I like it so much and even included it in my top 100 list.
I very much agree with Rudolf - if this is not ABBA because it's not labelled ABBA, the Ring Ring album wouldn't be ABBA either. I also agree with abbangelears, all ABBA members are featured on the song and I don't care for lead vocals and who is most audible. And if Frida considers this the first real ABBA song...I say yes, it is an ABBA song.

I can't remember Frida saying this about HGM, I think she was saying it was the first time they were all on the same song. On her DVD she says the first ABBA record was He Is Your Brother, but we all know that was a slip of the memory. Gill

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I See Red - 09.10.2010, 13:25

I've voted no. This is a Bjorn and Benny album song, not an ABBA song. The backing vocalists just happen to be A&F but I still don't think it can be classed as an ABBA song.

billydog wrote: Gill, I actually remember that statement with Frida describing Hej Gamle Man as the first ABBA song as Josie remembers, I just can't remember the source, will get back to you if and when I find it, maybe in Bright lights or The Complete Recording Sessions, not sure

I'm sure it was Bright Lights, where Frida commented on Hej Gamle Man, but I can't remember what she said!!

Lisa x

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Carribean - 09.10.2010, 16:24

It's a Bjorn and Benny song because it was recorded by them, with some help by the girls.
They had succes with it and decided to do something together in English: People Need Love. This song was recorded with the intention of singing it together, the four of them. They did not have the ABBA name yet but it was about these four people while Hej Gamble Man was about Bjorn and Benny.
The four also worked together on solo songs by the girls like Frida's Kom Och Sjung en Sång. The harmonies are very ABBA-like but it is also not an ABBA song simply because it is a Frida song.

:D

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Geordiegirl - 09.10.2010, 22:18

Just checked The Complete Recording Sessions & I think what people are referring to does come from there, but it is a slight mis-quote or mis-interpretation. What the book quotes Frida as saying is "the birth of ABBA in a way. I don't think it would have been such a hit if Agnetha and I hadn't been on it". I am sure that the last bit was said tounge in cheek.
Gill

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malin - 19.10.2010, 20:47
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abbascots wrote: billydog wrote: I read somewhere that Frida considers this the first real ABBA song...do you agree, or not :?:

S x

If Frida says its ABBA then its ABBA no question :lol: :wink:

JS

Great poll. I spontaneously don't consider it an ABBA-song. But It's of course a question of definition, and yes, the opinion(?) of the ABBA-members themselves then be worth alot then.