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Riyn - 27.08.2007, 23:43Log of the Org meeting regarding RS leaving AoF
This is a log of our Org Meeting regarding RS leaving AoF for everyone that missed it.
If you read this please keep in mind that all we were looking for was honesty, not everyone will like everyone, and everyone was asked to speak truthfully there. No ill will is present and i trust everyone is grown enough to not get hurt.
Metach: okey we all here then?
Latorii: think so
Defluo: speak up if you ain't here
Oltcit: switch the light off hoot
Metach: okey lets get the show on the road then
Metach: lol
Metacore: uhm .. kinky meeting ?
Oltcit: it
Metach: post by Demonkhaos in AoF forums:
Metach: i removed the AOF tag from the Rising Sun name ... its been apparent that alot of the members of RS have been losing a great deal of their game time due to drama and politics ... everyone wants to have fun and enjoy this game for what its worth and not deal with all the issues and politics that go along with being in AOF ....... RS has tried to deal with the blunt of any drama and politics that concern this alliance ... but we are spent on the subject and the only opition left for us is to move on as an Org .... thanks for the memories of the fun times we did have and we wish everyone the best
Metach: http://www.anarchyfaithful.com/aof/showthread.php?t=442 <--- all there
Latorii: looks around.
Oltcit: waits
Latorii: Don't think it comes as a surprise to most of you.
Defluo: nope, knew it was coming a while ago
Oltcit: difficult to understand it without knowing what they are talking about
Akumii: I talked to Him, and wish to add, but I'll wait
Metach: and that leads to why we are here, we are asked to leave with RS and start a new alliance with them or something like that
Latorii: mh, well to sum it olt they are mad at some people at rem and va, they not getting kicked, and people left RS because of the drama about it.
Metach: hmm did i miss olts message?
Oltcit: like kez?
Latorii: I know some of you don't like some particular person either, heh.
Latorii: Kezz actually stopped playing. it's metavestral on his account now. but.. i think he's one of the persons yeah
Metach: hmm looks like i dont get all the messages
Metacore: has this been discussed with the staff of rem and va ?
Defluo: basically Olt, people are sick of the drama queens in chat and org presidents not keeping their own house
Akumii: is afk
Akumii: is back
Defluo: i believe Nyt and a couple of others have tried
Oltcit: i noticed that in REM, but not in VA
Latorii: I haven't talked to them, don't think you have yet right waq? va and rem
Akumii: Question is what To do about it ?
Defluo: Waq if you're missing messages drag everyone into private chat group mebbe?
Metacore: dunno .. seems fair to hear their opinion on he matters before breaking up the alliance
Metach: all i have talked is nyts, rem and va i havent
Latorii: Think waq get's all messages now. private groups allways are such a hassle
Metach: well if its lagging i quess it doesnt matter what channel to use
Latorii: on the other hand they might not lag, hehe
Azsparrow: most from the REM dont understand why RS left.. nor they think they have had any serious issues with them
Defluo: who is pres rem and va atm?
Latorii: well it's pretty much why i hate the breaking up part. it's only a few select people the issues with are
Azsparrow: Maz is pres of rem
Latorii: but, it's their call. I take it they tried talking
Akumii: I don't know why they can't just deal with these "select" few?
Akumii: oh
Defluo: unfortunately it is up to the Presidents of the org that the painful few are in to deal with them and i think the key issue is they are not being dealt with
Metach: kisa got offline tell from em and it reads: Kisabamp: Offline message from Emeraldninja (Sat 25 Aug 2007 06:05 GMT) [Emeraldninja]: Yeah.. they apparently told ppl that DW felt the same and was leaving and some RS'ers told me that Waqu said he was joining them... was all very weird. Have Waqu msg me if he would like the scope on what went down .. I know RS has been chomping in his ear about things and Im not sure hes getting a clear picture of what has been happening.. Its sad that RS left, but as Vesty said... this was all on them...
Defluo: at least that was how it was put to me by Angel
Azsparrow: btw there was threade on forums about what emmy said too
Akumii: Thats what em told me something around liek that
Azsparrow: he started one flaming RS to tell us that we should leave aof
Azsparrow: appearently threade have been deleted since then
Metach: :O
Oltcit: i can't believe that no one will lay the cards down in public on this issue
Defluo: can't log in to forums but i am somewhat sceptical of anything Em says
Azsparrow: Demon defend himself there as well and well drama goes on after emmy answerin on that again and so on
Metach: well i dont know who to believe, i havent seen any of those dramas they mention..... always happends when i'm not around
Defluo: At the end of the day the split has happened, I think the key issue now is what is best for the members of DW?
Oltcit: i'm in the same boat with waqu, haven't experienced the drama myself
Metach: yes thats what we are about to deside
Latorii: I didn't see any of that drama either. but i think it's a timezone thing. Def is on a quite different zone to us and got caught in more i think
Defluo: I just got tired of Em's rants in chat
Metacore: is there no way to get them to sit together and solve this issue. the we wont have to make this choice
Latorii: I don't think so this time to be honest.
Metach: well they left at friday so its up to us now to deside will we go with AoF or RS or neither
Latorii: it is the second time the brought it up
Metacore: fair enough lat
Latorii: and even jinta mentioned it's how it's gonna stay.
Metach: yes its the second time
Azsparrow: ok.., what i've chatted with ppl.. official reason that RS left seem to be that some from the guild werent happy how things were.. Demon sured me that he himself dont have any serious issues with others. but as a pres he had to do something on the matter.. to think own guild and to keep ppl happy or so.. <br>another thing is indeed that no1 in DW have seen any kind of drama.. and what i've heard from Jlife and Maz neither has REM.. dont know much about VA
Azsparrow: thats facts/background im aware of
Metach: hmmm
Metacore: so appearently no1 has a problem and we're still braking up.
Azsparrow: yes i found it weird like we all prolly
Latorii: I know that many people have issues with emerald drama. Which i can understand though i never had quarrels yet. And many people had issues with kezz. And kez left.
Metach: yup sounds odd
Defluo: I think the issues / unhappiness have been building for a while rather than large drama all at once
Oltcit: kez was a different story
Azsparrow: well there is most likely something hidden from public.. but more and more i think of it it looks like its only within few members and their personal matters
Metacore: sounds like it indeed
Akumii: agreed
Defluo: unless you can get all of the backstory we will never know entire reasons
Oltcit: true
Metach: yep
Metacore: but anyway, if RS stated not te come back then i guess its over anyway.
Oltcit: that's why i said, someone has to come clean on this issue
Defluo: Back to my original point, split has happened, we cannot resolve that so we need to decide what is best for DW members going forward
Latorii: I don't see us getting the backstory and as much as i like to know, i don't think it will take back what happend and has been said.
Defluo: it is politics Olt, no-one will come clean
Latorii: Yeah, i agree.
Azsparrow: yes i agree with Def
Metach: yes agree too
Akumii: true
Metach: thats exactly why we are having this meeting
Defluo: speaks from the wisdom of being an old fart =)
Metach: to deside where to go from here
Metacore: lol
Metach: :P
Latorii: Personally I hate this situations. there are people in every org i don't wanna miss. heck my room mate is in RS ofc i wanna stay with them. On the other hand if we leave aof it's dead. VA and REM are dieing.
Azsparrow: yes
Akumii: Yep
Oltcit: i say convince VA to boot REM
Latorii: mh.. why?
Metach: well to be honest, i dont see much raid action going between any of the orgs
Azsparrow: rem and va has lost almost all their active players
Defluo: Not any more, there has been some BD action recently
Latorii: in all fairness i think that's also a time think. we lost many of the most active raidsleaders and all the new team content took away from org activities.
Latorii: Heck i think i count to the more active raid planners now. -.-
Metach: hehe
Metach: sooo what shall we do then?
Defluo: I also think that as the people / toons in the org have "grown up" RS particularly and DW somewhat have been more inward focussed due to the number of high level toons
Latorii: err.. getting offtopic. point being i think raids have little to do with the alliance.
Azsparrow: yes ofc we all wish aof would be more active but thats rather the point here
Akumii: If drama keeps up, its gonna die more then it already has
Defluo: agree Riyn, at the core... can DW stand on its own? Do we want to stand on our own again?
Defluo: or do we want to help 2 dying orgs try to stay alive?
Oltcit: or option 3
Defluo: or do we want to join with a larger / stronger org?
Metach: yes those are the choises
Latorii: Mh. interesting point. I do think we can stand our own. I do think it will come with scarifices. but i don't think it's the two primary options.
Defluo: note, the larger stronger is from my perspective and skewed by timezone
Latorii: we can stay in aof. or we can stay with rs.
Oltcit: def, in euro timezone, DW players alway outnumber the ones from other orgs
Metacore: i hear some of us also complaining bout the behaviour of some ppl in REM
Defluo: how about a conscience vote then? Use tells to Waq to ensure you vote your conscience?
Latorii: In case you missed it. Iev from REM joined DW earlier. He asked if he can join, and thinking about how it is at the moment i thought why not. The orgs are dieing.
Defluo: we can then use that to decide if there is reason for further debate
Oltcit: well, i say lay the options off and everyone votes publicly
Azsparrow: i think that just b/c rs left isnt any reason to DW leave too.. we shouldnt do it with mere that crappy reason.. we should think if the 3 org AoF still best for us or should we basically bury AoF (cos thats what it means if we leave too) and start it again within the own org only... after that we can arrange new alliances and such
Azsparrow: my point is that i dont think we are any better with RS now than we are in AoF
Metacore: agree, but ....
Defluo: i happen to agree Az, i think personal ties will ensure there are some degree of interplay between the orgs
Metacore: if heard some of us also complain about members on other orgs in aof.
Latorii: Actually.. I'd like to hear about that.
Metach: me too
Latorii: So far only defluo had the guts to actually complain. (much respect :>)
Metach: hehe
Latorii: If there are complaints.. we need to hear them.
Akumii: is afk
Azsparrow: hehe go go Def :)
Defluo: ummm that was more ripping a new arsehole due to being fed up
Akumii: is back
Metach: haha
Defluo: and it worked for a while, Em settled
Defluo: but haven't been on much lately so no idea if it has stuck
Latorii: Yeah. i think "I was pissed off by all that whining and drama queening" does count as a valid complain.
Metacore: yeah, but if it keeps annoying u def we might have the same situation in lets say, 3 months. then we will be braking off.
Akumii: Yes
Metacore: we should consider this when staying in aof.
Metacore: if some of us are annoyed just like RS, then i think we should follow RS.
Metacore: if we can live with it we can stick with aof
Defluo: So if i hear correctly, at the moment no-one has any real issues with REM / VA? If that is the case and given the degree of personal ties with RS I think staying in AoF will do us little harm and help REM / VA significantly
Akumii: I do get annoyed alot of rem, but by that i just never speak and ignore org chats sometimes..
Latorii: Someone particulary in REM?
Azsparrow: i did that a lot when Kez was active -,-
Latorii: As did I
Azsparrow: almost break my mood
Metach: yes kezz was worst, thankfully he is gone
Azsparrow: tho didnt ever think we should leave just b/c of that
Metacore: but kez did never get kicked did she ?
Oltcit: nope
Akumii: Um well one was kezz
Metacore: may say something about REM staff
Akumii: and em
Defluo: If you are ignoring org chat for that reason then you need to complain to the Prez of the orgmember causing trouble and cc in Waq
Latorii: He stopped playing. metavestral uses his account.
Latorii: agreed def. which is why i meant we need to hear it.
Akumii: True Def but I just kept to myself didn't think it was major
Latorii: heck what if all dw ignores chat because of one org and we never hear that?
Defluo: that way over time we build a picture of what is happening and then we can actively decide to do things based on information as opposed to speculation
Metach: indeed
Defluo: Akumii it is always a major issue when a DW member is inconvenienced by someone from another org
Defluo: I am a proud member of AoF but I will always put DW first, in all regards =)
Metacore: i have a question ...
Akumii: ofc, but at that time, i just didn't wnat to be a pest or nag
Metacore: does any1 currently have a problem with ppl in REM/VA or expects to have in the near future ?
Akumii: Not that i can think of I do not, things have died down some
Metach: i dont have problems with any of those orgs including RS, REM and VA
Azsparrow: Hoot thats a good guestion
Metacore: tnx ;)
Defluo: I have no problem at the moment
Azsparrow: personally i love all of them and dont have any problems
Defluo: Olt / Riyn?
Oltcit: none
Defluo: Kis?
Kisabamp: no
Azsparrow: only thing is that we prolly all agree that AoF isnt quite workin as well as it should atm if u can call that a problem cos in that problem i have big responsible too ^,^
Latorii: depends heavinly on my mood. Emmy can get to my nerves with all the whining at times. I don't mind her attention whoring much. And at times nyt and angel can annoy me with their self righteous omg no one raids attitude. but then again.. I piss off people and plasma all the time so i wouldn't call that problems.
Akumii: Personally I don't mind helping I try what I can do....I see no harm in staying, and trying to help
Metacore: considering we have no problem w REM/VA and it would be a shame when those orgs dies .... shouldn't we just give it a go with aof then ?
Akumii: I agree
Metach: lets vote for results then
Metacore: fine w me
Metach: you can all send me a pm and say RS, AoF or on our own
Defluo: I think we table the motion that at this point in time DW stays with AoF. I also think that we pretty much have all the timezones covered with those who are here so we take note of any issues arising and ensure we take action where it is required. We can review the decision to stay AoF at any time, however once we leave it is not easy to go back
Azsparrow: hmm to be honest.. from spontanious thoughs i would have gone with the RS.. for the first 5seconds i though there's more friends than i have else where but thats wrong way to think this matter i think.. it hurt me to see RS and all good guys leavin aof but still it would hurt as much to leave aof by myself
Azsparrow: to put it that i was strongly against aof at the first place too but guess i've been growing into it
Azsparrow: so vote.. we're done with the discuss then and no more "good points" popping up? :)
Metach: you can all send me a pm and say RS, AoF or on our own
Oltcit: everyone spam waqu
Metach: so far 1 vote is in :P
Latorii: tell Waqu Cyber?
Latorii: mT!
Azsparrow: yeah i take it we're done with the talking then.. cos really wanna talk things through first before voting
Latorii: well... I am as undecided as before ;) so i guess all the points were spoken.
Azsparrow: haha :D
Oltcit: i demand my complaint to be dealt with right now
Metacore: hnf
Latorii: You had a complaint?
Oltcit: yeah
Latorii: No. you can't kick me.
Latorii: Still a complaint?
Oltcit: crap
Oltcit: nope
Azsparrow: btw i wanna just add one thing that we should do somekind of decission now.. its kind of rude to have shared chat with everyone.. when i greet jinta REM and VA thinks weird of me
Azsparrow: dislike most of this in between stage
Metach: only 3 votes in so far
Defluo: heh, it is not an easy decision from many perspectives, however for now I look to the greater good and if that fails I will then push for the selfish options =)
Oltcit: !points
Akumii: but..i like talking to members os RS :) but yea
Azsparrow: Kiira agree
Latorii: Call me a undecided weakling but i'll go with the majority. It doesn't feel right for me to vote.
Azsparrow: lol im a whimp too
Azsparrow: havent voted yet
Metacore: it doesn't for any1 ....
Defluo: hands out spines to Az and Riyn =P
Metach: :D
Akumii: lol
Metacore: will the RS guys be very disappointed (angry even) when we stick with aof ?
Oltcit: they shouldn't be
Akumii: uh man now that you said that...
Metacore: lol
Metacore: i mean .. if they're not we still have that option open don't we ?!
Latorii: maybe so. Still I allways tried to do what the majority of DW wants, tried to take DW where i think is right, but now I don't know. Also my roommate is In RS so yeah i would like to stay with him, but i'd feel guilty about jsut leaving va and rs. so yeah.. i got no spine in that regard.
Azsparrow: no they wont be angry
Kisabamp: was rs the first org to join with us?
Metach: yes i see your point lat
Defluo: heh, it is not spineless Riyn, this is a rather significant decision we face
Metach: yep and i couldnt do the decision alone either :P
Latorii: well kinda. That's the other reason why i feel bad about voting. I joined the chatbots with RS to chat a bit and they were in with VA allready so VA wanted to see us too then
Latorii: from then it evolved.
Latorii: I kinda went over waq's head back then ^_^"
Metach: :P
Metacore: from my point of view most of us want to go RS but feel crap about ditching REM/VA.
Defluo: yes Hoot
Kisabamp: yea
Metach: yup
Latorii: sums it pretty well.
Metacore: hmm ..
Defluo: However it is easier to stay AoF and work with RS then change later than other way round?
Latorii: though i'll miss people like maz, vir or tep too ofc.
Azsparrow: ok this few last lines made me do decission :D
Metach: well the score atm is 4 for Aof and 4 ppl voted so far :P
Metacore: actually i was gonna vote RS first too. but def's point made me go the other way around
Azsparrow: crap!! i spilled my whisky.. dmn im such an amateur
Metacore: wetpants =)
Oltcit: call plasma to help az
Azsparrow: lol
Metach: 5 x AoF atm
Azsparrow: vote ppl vote :)
Metacore: yea azz .. vote :P
Akumii: yes, and hurry i need a smoke !
Azsparrow: :DD
Latorii: well i guess i'd stay with aof too and try to work from there. In my dream scenario in 2 months from now all the "bad" people are gone and we create a new AoF with the guys from RS, REM and VA called "Riyn and his underlings!" but.. doh.
Azsparrow: tryin to lighten the mood arent u? ;D
Defluo: gets the cloth and water to wash Riyn's feet
Latorii: me? never! *whistles*
Latorii: you can count it as vote though ;)
Azsparrow: so 5/8 who we had present? -,-
Metacore: actually, that's not a bad way of thinking if u ask me riyn.
Azsparrow: voted i mean
Metach: looks like AoF it is then with 6 votes for it and none for other options
Latorii: I wasn't kidding even. heh. it's really what i hope for.
Latorii: maybe the name is a little lame. how about Riyn and the Masters of the Universe?
Akumii: lol
Metach: looks like kis and i will agree on AoF too so 8 total votes it is then
Azsparrow: ok if its aof.. we need somekind of solution for org chat.
Akumii: have 2 chats ? or is that to much of concentration ?
Metach: ../org rename Riyn and the my little ponies :P
Oltcit: ffs
Akumii: lol
Azsparrow: that would be my suggestion too.. or im alone not happy to have rs va and rem still in same chat?
Defluo: that would sour Riyn on his little dolls Waq
Azsparrow: it bites me to chat freely with RS when others dont know a heck what we're talkin about and other way around
Azsparrow: heck im scared to even say hi to my friends.. pf
Defluo: i think it is the only fair solution
Latorii: *sigh*... so i guess i have to miss rs from the chat eh?
Latorii: now i changed my vote again ;P no one to talk to anymore heh
Metach: lol
Defluo: no, we create 2nd channel and that is RS / DW (can that be done)?
Azsparrow: would really like to see aof chat as a org normal chat and then RS chat in different channel.. for example bot who's member of rs and has all DWers in quest list and autoinvite
Azsparrow: cos i dont wanna lose RS chat
Azsparrow: im gonna be perma quest on their bot if we cant figure something out
Latorii: I think it's possible to let a own bot run a special channel that can be joined to link to them
Akumii: i do have good ideas sometimes...:D
Defluo: heh, why do i feel like DW are becoming the meat in the sandwhich here =\
Latorii: then aof woul go to org and channel to rs.. but.. yeah. it's a bit weird.
Metach: heh it is already setup so we get rs and they get us but va and rem doesnt hear rs
Azsparrow: well i can live with atm situation too dont take me wrong :) just feeling a bit uneasy maybe
Defluo: Yes Waq but unfortunately when we reply to RS, REM and VA see and that is confusing and a little insulting to them
Metacore: actually i have no problem w current situation
Metach: true
Latorii: I don't have that much of a problem... besides.. it's not known to them.
Metach: so who we send as sacrificial lamb to tell the news to RS ppl :P
Akumii: I can't say hi to jint, demon, or much of anyone without sending a tell or vicinty, but don't matter to me
Latorii: Maybe we ought to make a new post. in the aof forum. Telling them what we spoke off.
Latorii: Maybe even put up the chat log i made of our chat
Latorii: and then ask them.. "Hey? what are we supposed to do?"
Metach: sure that would work
Defluo: yes, keeping info in the clear will stop any issues arising from rumours and so on
Azsparrow: Akumii i feel the same :/ but we're the whimps i guess ;)
Akumii: hehe :)
Metacore: yea, and plz be very clear bout how difficult the decision was to make and what or motives are for this decision
Metach: yep they forced us on this voting
Latorii: well i was hoping to come closer to my goal of a new aof with posting it rather then staying split.
Metacore: actually we stay to preserver REM/VA. pretty noble isn't it. i would say that RS would respect that in some way.
Defluo: kk, i need to log for a while and eat / wash 3 days of MTB gear (it's already walked to washing machine on its own). Will be back in a while =)
Metach: kk laters def
Azsparrow: hehe Def
Azsparrow: cyas :)
Akumii: cyas def
Latorii: laters def
Azsparrow: so guess we have considered this matter
Azsparrow: any other topics anyone wanna bring up now as we are alot here?
Metach: well kis raised interesting point of view
Latorii: i'm still unsatisfied :(.
Kisabamp: me to lat
Azsparrow: oh?
Azsparrow: tell me too
Metach: [Team] Kisabamp: and how do we know rem and va want to stay with us? [Team] Metach: well they havent left? [Team] Kisabamp: what if they suddenly decide to from there own org
Azsparrow: (btw this is exactly why i wanted to talk everything trhough before votin and was boasting about it)
Metach: [Team] Metach: then we have another meeting [Team] Kisabamp: rs is the most active org in the 3 and the ones that geave the most help
Latorii: that's true. we ought to ask what rem and VA want.
Akumii: Well that is a great point
Metach: thats a really good question indeed
Metacore: actually, shouldnt we just be more selfish and vote RS. the only reason we don't is that we pitty REM/VA.
Akumii: Do we need to have a AoF Meeting ?
Azsparrow: hehe at this way we're gettin no where -,-
Akumii: True
Metach: yep its getting harder to deside
Azsparrow: tbh personally i never have though that that REM and VA would wanna ditch us
Latorii: well.. instead of tormenting ourself any longer. How about making a post about it. Hey.. this is what we considered. we want to stay with RS because most friends are there. but we don't want to abandon you. look this is our dialog (if you all agree to post to log). What do YOU guys want?
Azsparrow: and if we have that kind of suspicions we need to ask then straight
Metach: go ahead and post it lat and lets see what they say
Azsparrow: yes agree ask em what they want..
Latorii: i knew it would turn out to be me :(
Kisabamp: lol
Metach: :P
Akumii: ah screw it lets just ditch em ....no no bad me...
Metacore: lol
Metacore: mindwrestling =)
Metacore: either decision really sucks
Metach: yep
Kisabamp: well its hard to make a choice with no facts on table dont you agree?
Metach": we have only 3 options atm
Metach: yep
Akumii: I need to go afk for a min and grab my 3 <br>Year old brb
Metach: kk
Metach: i dont think there is anything else we can do for this matter atm than post it and hear what they say
Azsparrow: so if i read this right, do a post on forums, discuss with other aof orgs. have a meeting maybe but first of all leave things as they are for now?
Latorii: none of the options are satisfying to me. I'm gonna make a post. See what we get as responses. then see again.
Metacore: dunno
Metach: we stay as it is until we know more
Latorii: ok. guess it's decided again. time to work my fingers
Metacore: silence ...
Azsparrow: -sigh-
Metach: is good.... :P
Azsparrow: ;)
Metacore: may I add one final thing before posting on forums ?
Akumii: is afk
Latorii: sure
Metacore: i don't really care, RS of REM/VA. I have some friends in both.
Metacore: on the other hand ...
Metacore: u guys seem to have a lot of friends in RS, more then in REM/VA
Metacore: u should also consider that u should ENJOY this game
Akumii: is back
Akumii: kids these days ..and thats true
Azsparrow: :)
Latorii: Yes very true. but for me.. I can't do that if i feel guilty everytime i see someone from VA/REM.
Akumii: I do enjoy playing while chattin with and sometimes hanging with rs
Azsparrow: well.. i based my vote regarding all these points Hoots. and its true i have more and closer friends in RS than other orgs
Metacore: why should you feel guilty lat ?
Metacore: i mean .. it's not that you betrayed them orso
Metacore: you just wanna hang out where most of ur friends hang out
Akumii: bingo
Metach: true
Metacore: who can blame you !?
Azsparrow: hehe actually i would think of that i've betrayed aof if we leave as sudden as RS, hard to explain human heart it is... can still be in close contact with rs no matter
Latorii: Because I have friends in every org. Because I got DW into AoF. Because I feel that as part of DW Leadership I have to consider what most want.
Azsparrow: i feel somekind of responsibility against aof :S i guess
Metacore: also true azz
Latorii: What you say is very logical. But it's how I feel about AoF and leaving them.
Azsparrow: yeah im like that too
Akumii: Can't we all just get along :) ? hehe
Azsparrow: :D
Metach: apparently not :P
Latorii: I wish akii :) that would lead to my dream of "Riyn and his Journey to the Fairyland" again.
Akumii: lol
Latorii: ok. I end the log here.
Re: Log of the Org meeting regarding RS leaving AoF
Riyn - 01.09.2007, 01:43
Behold. The wall of text.
(gratz!)
Edit:
I moved this to life in deadly whisper so it can eb read more easily by AoF members.
edit2:
I merged some threads. please use the discussion thread in the members section to discuss this.
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