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Re: Which B side was better than the A side

abbarich - 11.10.2010, 19:14
Which B side was better than the A side
Did you prefer any of the songs on the flip side of Abba's 45's. The one that springs to my mind is I've been waiting for you. As much as I love So Long, I think the B side is a much stronger track and would have climbed higher than the miserable #91 SL managed to reach on the UK chart. IBWFY has a lovely melody, beautifully sung by Agnetha and is very radio friendly. SL is terrific, but is maybe a bit too much of a loud rocker for the typical ABBA fan. (Not for me though. I love it!)
The Visitors is better than HOH, but The Visitors has a similar chorus to SNC so maybe this is why it wasn't the A side in most of Europe. (TV did reach #6 in Poland though, the only country it was a hit in I believe.) Other B sides come close to being better, Cassandra, Kisses of fire and The Piper. Very close, but not quite! Which B side do you prefer and why? Rich.

Re: Which B side was better than the A side

Carribean - 11.10.2010, 19:33

Interesting topic. It is not so much that some songs are better to me but that they were good enough to be an A-side.

Come to mind:

That's Me
Should I Laugh Or Cry (a single in stead of Head Over Heels)
Cassandra (a single in stead of Under Attack)
Elaine
Crazy World (call me crazy but I love it but I know it could never have been a single)

:wink:

Re: Which B side was better than the A side

abbarich - 11.10.2010, 19:41

Yes, That's me was definitely A side material. Who else but ABBA would have hidden that one on a B side. I do like Crazy World a lot more these days than back then. It's a lovely melody, but I wish it had been given a better treatment. Rich.

Re: Which B side was better than the A side

drimnagh - 11.10.2010, 19:43

Kisses Of Fire, for sure.

Re: Which B side was better than the A side

peterjames - 11.10.2010, 19:44

Great topic, Rich :applause: It's hard for me to comprehend, though, because the singles were different depending on the country.

For example, SOS was B-Side to Bang-a-Boomerang in France, which gives that win to the B-side. But then Man in the Middle was B-side to SOS on it's release, and I would have to give it to the A-side in that instance.

Re: Which B side was better than the A side

hamlet3 - 11.10.2010, 19:56

For sure I've Been Waiting For You. Benny is absolutely right about his issiues of So Long having an un-ABBA-ish feel, rather imitating something than being ABBA themselves. Making this the lead-off single of the ABBA album is the only decision I really consider wrong.

Apart from that, I'd think about Our Last Summer as the B-side to the 1983 single of TYFTM if that counts ;).

Re: Which B side was better than the A side

Geordiegirl - 11.10.2010, 21:02

For me the answer quite a few of them for me. Remembering that the question is which B sides do you prefer, not which could have been bigger hits as the two are not necesarily the same thing. The following immediately sring to mind (3 are in my top 10 ABBA tracks), but I am sure there are others as well

I've Been Waitng For You
Should I Laugh Or Cry
Cassandra
The Visitors
You Owe Me One
Lovelight

Gill

Re: Which B side was better than the A side

hamlet3 - 11.10.2010, 21:35

Geordiegirl wrote: For me the answer quite a few of them for me. Remembering that the question is which B sides do you prefer, not which could have been bigger hits as the two are not necesarily the same thing.

Yep. It's that case for me with both ;).

Re: Which B side was better than the A side

abbajen - 11.10.2010, 23:55

The B sides that I prefer to their better known flip sides ( ignoring the question of their chart potential , which is another matter ) , I would have to go with :

I've been waiting for you
The Visitors
Lovelight
Kisses of Fire

There's so much quality tucked away on the B sides ! :D

Re: Which B side was better than the A side

Carribean - 12.10.2010, 00:02

Geordiegirl wrote: For me the answer quite a few of them for me. Remembering that the question is which B sides do you prefer, not which could have been bigger hits as the two are not necesarily the same thing.

True I started that but ok the B-sides I prefer over the A-sides:

Crazy World
I've Been Waiting For You

The rest of the A-sides are better in my opinion but as I said earlier: some B-sides could have been released as A-sides simply because they are great songs.

Re: Which B side was better than the A side

Toni - 12.10.2010, 07:37
Re: Which B side was better than the A side
abbarich wrote: As much as I love So Long, I think the B side is a much stronger track.

I agree with that. "So Long" is really a great uplifting rock song, but "I've Been Waiting for You" is a masterpiece.

Re: Which B side was better than the A side

Visitor1982 - 12.10.2010, 08:26

In The Netherlands So Long was the B-side to the I Do x5 single, so that was fine.

I believe this topic isn't about which B-side could have been a single, but which B-side is better than it's A-side.

For me, there aren't many.

I prefer Should I Laugh Or Cry over One Of Us, but I don't think SILOC is single material. The same thing goes for The King Has Lost His Crown and Gimme! Gimme! Gimme! and The Visitors and Head Over Heels.

There are lots of tracks that could or should have been singles instead of the released ones...

I've Been Waiting For You instead of So Long
Bang-A-Boomerang instead of I Do, I Do, I Do, I Do, I Do
When I Kissed The Teacher instead of Money, Money, Money
Move On instead of The Name Of The Game
One Man, One Woman instead of Eagle
Lovelight instead of Summer Night City
If It Wasn't For The Nights instead of Does Your Mother Know
As Good As New instead of Voulez-Vous
Our Last Summer instead of Super Trouper
When All Is Said And Done instead of Head Over Heels
Just Like That instead of Under Attack

Marnix

Re: Which B side was better than the A side

billydog - 12.10.2010, 09:53

This is a tough topic Rich :!:
I really think ABBA gave quality with most of the B-sides and a lot of them, even thoughthey weren't released as such, I consider double A-sides anyway. For me its impossble not to think of The Day Before You Came without Cassandra or The Winner Takes It All without Elaine.
I think most of the time they got it spot on, probably the only one I would switch for sure would be So Long. Hindsight is a wonderful thing but I still think in the UK Ive Been Waiting For You would have struggled with such a gap between Waterloo being a hit and Ring Ring flopping.
It was a bad mistake not to release Honey Honey as the follow-up to Waterloo but, I think Epic was making the decisions in the aftermath of Waterloo so I don't hold ABBA responsible for that decision.
Im quiet happy with the rest of the singles, only wish their had been more releases which is covered well in another thread so I won't go through all of them here :wink:

S x

Re: Which B side was better than the A side

Fire&Ice - 12.10.2010, 10:50

1. I Wonder (Departure)

2. Should I laugh or cry

3. Crazy World

4. Watch Out (of course!)

Re: Which B side was better than the A side

kitty-cat - 12.10.2010, 11:28

I Wonder
Kisses of Fire
Lovelight

Gill xx

Re: Which B side was better than the A side

Anonymous - 12.10.2010, 11:37

Visitor1982 wrote: There are lots of tracks that could or should have been singles instead of the released ones...

I've Been Waiting For You instead of So Long
Bang-A-Boomerang instead of I Do, I Do, I Do, I Do, I Do
When I Kissed The Teacher instead of Money, Money, Money
[...]
One Man, One Woman instead of Eagle
[...]
When All Is Said And Done instead of Head Over Heels

Marnix

:thumbup:

Re: Which B side was better than the A side

Toni - 12.10.2010, 11:44

Fire&Ice wrote: 1. I Wonder (Departure)



Yes, this b-side I prefer to it's a-side, too. Of course I love "The Name of the Game" and it's much more perfect for the a-side, but my personal favourite is "I Wonder (live)". :D

Fire&Ice wrote: 3. Crazy World

Ivana, you really prefer it to the a-side "Money Money Money"? :D

Re: Which B side was better than the A side

kitty-cat - 12.10.2010, 11:53

Toni wrote:
Fire&Ice wrote: 3. Crazy World
Ivana, you really prefer it to the a-side "Money Money Money"? :D

:shock: Really Iv? Crazy World over MMM? :shock:

Gill xx

Re: Which B side was better than the A side

I See Red - 12.10.2010, 12:03

This is a difficult topic Rich! :D The one that instantly springs to mind is:

1. I Wonder (Departure) instead of The Name Of The Game. Much as I like The Name of The Game, I prefer I Wonder.

I'd also think Should I Laugh Or Cry would have been a good single, but I love One Of Us, so maybe it could also have been a single A side, perhaps replacing Under Attack?

Lisa x

Re: Which B side was better than the A side

Toni - 12.10.2010, 12:12

The next b-side I like better than the a-side is "Thank You for the Music", although "Eagle" is amazing as well, of course. :wink:

Re: Which B side was better than the A side

hamlet3 - 12.10.2010, 13:12

Fire&Ice wrote: 4. Watch Out (of course!)

Thanks Ivana :rotfl2:

Re: Which B side was better than the A side

Silly Old Clown - 12.10.2010, 13:57

That's Me, Kisses Of Fire, Cassandra, I've Been Waiting For You...All these could have been massive and easily make it to n. 1 in many countries...

Re: Which B side was better than the A side

drimnagh - 12.10.2010, 14:05

I think it's easy to take a preference for a song and believe it to be better than the A side. I cannot see The Name Of The Game as anything other than an A side and a number one single- I Wonder has 'mini musical number' written all over it- it's great and one of Frida's highlights but it's not 'ABBA- single-enough', if that makes any sense. There are times when perhaps a B side is as good as an A but rarely 'better'.

For instance, I really, really love Lovelight and it is one of my favourite ever ABBA songs but I'm not sure I could say it is better than Chiquitita-or indeed should have been the A side.. that's stretching it a bit- I would say they're both wonderful, in different ways.

Re: Which B side was better than the A side

Toni - 12.10.2010, 17:02

In the Top 100 lists I have learned that "Medley" is one of the less loved ABBA songs here in the forum, which still is a shock to me. :lol:

However, in my ears it is brilliant and I love it even more than the a-side "Summer Night City". 8)

Re: Which B side was better than the A side

I See Red - 12.10.2010, 17:12

Toni wrote: In the Top 100 lists I have learned that "Medley" is one of the less loved ABBA songs here in the forum, which still is a shock to me. :lol:

Oh dear, I don't think you're going to like where I've ranked it Toni :oops:. Thinking about this topic a little more, I also think Cassandra should have been a single A-Side. And of course, If It Wasn't For The Nights. Two really strong songs that easily would have been hits!

Lisa x

Re: Which B side was better than the A side

Toni - 12.10.2010, 17:22

I See Red wrote: Oh dear, I don't think you're going to like where I've ranked it Toni :oops:.

It looks like that I have to live with the fact that I'm the only one who totally loves "Medley". :rotfl:

drimnagh wrote: For instance, I really, really love Lovelight and it is one of my favourite ever ABBA songs but I'm not sure I could say it is better than Chiquitita-or indeed should have been the A side..

Although I prefer "Lovelight", "Chiquitita" was of course a perfect a-side. Lovelight is the better songs for my taste, and Chiquitita was the better song for the charts. :wink:

Re: Which B side was better than the A side

johnny59 - 12.10.2010, 17:26

Toni wrote: Lovelight is the better songs for my taste, and Chiquitita was the better song for the charts. :wink:

:shock:

. . . and for me! :D

Re: Which B side was better than the A side

Fire&Ice - 12.10.2010, 19:08

Toni wrote:

Fire&Ice wrote: 3. Crazy World

Ivana, you really prefer it to the a-side "Money Money Money"? :D

No way, Jose. :wink: :lol: I've understood the topic as which songs you would like to have been A sides as well, because I can't say that one song (b side) is really better than the other (a side). Incomparable, in many cases. I can't decide whether an uptempo song is better than a slow-paced one.

Re: Which B side was better than the A side

Anonymous - 12.10.2010, 19:10

Fire&Ice wrote: Toni wrote:

Fire&Ice wrote: 3. Crazy World

Ivana, you really prefer it to the a-side "Money Money Money"? :D

No way, Jose. :wink: :lol:

Jose???? :confused:

Re: Which B side was better than the A side

Fire&Ice - 12.10.2010, 19:40

^^^ :lol: I think it is a line from a film..., meaning "absolutely not" . I know Toni's name is Toni. :D

Re: Which B side was better than the A side

Anonymous - 12.10.2010, 19:44

I was just missing "our" Jose... José Antonio, that is. Who is another "Toni"... :cry:

But I'll track down that film. Sounds like fun.

Lenke done with the off topic.

:innocent:

Re: Which B side was better than the A side

Geordiegirl - 12.10.2010, 20:09

I'm not sure where it orignally comes from but "no way, Jose" is a fairly standard expession in Britain, all it means is simply there's no chance of something happening.

The knowledge non-noative English speakers have of idioms like this one used in the language amazes me constantly. I struggle enough with it & it is the only languuage I have used for ** years. Gill

Re: Which B side was better than the A side

Carribean - 12.10.2010, 20:52

johnny59 wrote: Toni wrote: Lovelight is the better songs for my taste, and Chiquitita was the better song for the charts. :wink:

:shock:

. . . and for me! :D

And for Unicef! It brought in a lot of money being ABBA's biggest seller in Latin America.
It is not my favourite ABBA song (not in my top 10) but I like it much better than Lovelight which sounds kinda messy to me.

Re: Which B side was better than the A side

abbangelears - 12.10.2010, 22:05

I definitely agree with Ron. Lovelight is one of those songs that sound unfinished, as if they hadn't taken it seriously and yes, a little messy. Chiquitita is far better. But I prefer The Visitors to Head over heels and Cassandra to Under attack.

Re: Which B side was better than the A side

abbarich - 12.10.2010, 22:22

Well, a lot of you agree that I've been waiting for you is better than SL. Most of you prefer TV to HOH. I think these were maybe the only 2 singles where ABBA or rather the record company, picked the wrong side. I do think ABBA picked the right A side with the others, but a lot of their singles could have been double A sides. That's me, Kisses Of Fire, The Piper, On and on and on (though this was the A side in Aus and US), and Cassandra. The problem with double A sides is that it's almost like the artist is saying we don't have enough confidence with this new 45 so we thought we'd better couple it with another good song. The only double A in the UK was Angeleyes/Voulez Vous, but these were good enough to be hits in their own right. All of ABBA's singles were good enough to stand up on their own, so some fantastic songs had to make do with being just the B side. Rich.

Re: Which B side was better than the A side

Toni - 12.10.2010, 22:24
Re: Which B side was better than the A side
Ivana wrote: No way, Jose. I've understood the topic as which songs you would like to have been A sides as well, because I can't say that one song (b side) is really better than the other (a side). Incomparable, in many cases. I can't decide whether an uptempo song is better than a slow-paced one.

I think everybody here has an own interpretation of the topic. :lol:

abbarich wrote: Did you prefer any of the songs on the flip side of Abba's 45's ?

Yes, another example of mine: I prefer "Kisses of Fire" to "Does Your Mother Know".

Re: Which B side was better than the A side

abbarich - 12.10.2010, 22:28

billydog wrote: This is a tough topic Rich :!:
It was a bad mistake not to release Honey Honey as the follow-up to Waterloo but, I think Epic was making the decisions in the aftermath of Waterloo so I don't hold ABBA responsible for that decision.
Im quiet happy with the rest of the singles, only wish their had been more releases which is covered well in another thread so I won't go through all of them here :wink:

S x

Yes Stu, Honey should have been the follow up to Waterloo in the UK, as it was in the rest of Europe. If only that darned Sweet Dreams hadn't jumped in so quick and robbed ABBA of a top 10 place. Their inferior cover version made the top 10, while ABBA's Ring Ring only made #32. With that one mistake, ABBA had to wait another 18 months before they conquered the UK. We were the very last country to catch up with ABBA! :oops: Rich.

Re: Which B side was better than the A side

abbarich - 12.10.2010, 22:35

Toni wrote: The next b-side I like better than the a-side is "Thank You for the Music", although "Eagle" is amazing as well, of course. :wink:

I thought TYFTM and Eagle was a double A side in Germany Toni. Was only Eagle the A side? Rich.

Re: Which B side was better than the A side

Toni - 12.10.2010, 22:39

abbarich wrote: The only double A in the UK was Angeleyes/Voulez Vous..

In Germany Voulez-Vous was the a-side, but I love Angeleyes so much more.

Re: Which B side was better than the A side

abbarich - 12.10.2010, 22:40

I See Red wrote: This is a difficult topic Rich! :D The one that instantly springs to mind is:

1. I Wonder (Departure) instead of The Name Of The Game. Much as I like The Name of The Game, I prefer I Wonder.

Lisa x

Lisa, That's 3 of you that prefer I wonder to TNOTG. The other 2 being Gill and Toni. That's surprising! I really like I wonder. It has a stunning chorus, but TNOTG is a MASTERPIECE!!! In ABBA's all time top 5 IMHO. Rich.

Re: Which B side was better than the A side

Toni - 12.10.2010, 22:40

abbarich wrote: I thought TYFTM and Eagle was a double A side in Germany Toni. Was only Eagle the A side? Rich.

Yes, Eagle was the only a-side. It was my first ABBA record and I still have it at home. (bought it because of TYFTM) :D

Re: Which B side was better than the A side

abbarich - 12.10.2010, 22:43

Toni wrote: abbarich wrote: The only double A in the UK was Angeleyes/Voulez Vous..

In Germany Voulez-Vous was the a-side, but I love Angeleyes so much more.

I love both, but I actually prefer Voulez-Vous. In the UK, Angeleyes was actually the main A side. The only country to do this. I think this was a wise decision, as Angeleyes is a more familiar type ABBA song than Voulez-Vous, and Angeleyes helped push the single into the UK top 3. The single went much lower in some countries where Angeleyes wasn't also the A side. Rich.

Re: Which B side was better than the A side

Toni - 12.10.2010, 22:49

Yes, they failed the German Top 10 with V-V after 13 Top Ten Hits in a row. I guess that wouldn't happened with Angeleyes on the a-side, because it was more suitable for the charts at that time.


Next shock for some of you: I prefer "On and on and On" to "Lay All Your Love on Me". :D

Re: Which B side was better than the A side

Fire&Ice - 12.10.2010, 23:03

abbarich wrote:

Lisa, That's 3 of you that prefer I wonder to TNOTG. The other 2 being Gill and Toni.

Rich, are you reading posts here carefully??

I am not that good in knowing the b sides after 78 so I must have forgotten The Visitors.

I can't say (again) that I prefer a or b side. It is difficult if I like both songs. :P

Re: Which B side was better than the A side

abbarich - 12.10.2010, 23:26

Fire&Ice wrote: abbarich wrote:

Lisa, That's 3 of you that prefer I wonder to TNOTG. The other 2 being Gill and Toni.

Rich, are you reading posts here carefully??
:P

Sorry Ivana, that's 4 of you for I wonder. I never could count! :lol: Rich.

Re: Which B side was better than the A side

Fire&Ice - 12.10.2010, 23:49

abbarich wrote: I never could count! :lol: Rich.

Neither could I. :wink:

Re: Which B side was better than the A side

Toni - 13.10.2010, 07:21

Geordiegirl wrote: Cassandra


I agree with you, Gill. :agree:

Re: Which B side was better than the A side

I See Red - 13.10.2010, 11:48

abbarich wrote: Lisa, That's 3 of you that prefer I wonder to TNOTG. The other 2 being Gill and Toni. That's surprising! I really like I wonder. It has a stunning chorus, but TNOTG is a MASTERPIECE!!! In ABBA's all time top 5 IMHO. Rich.

I do like the Name of The Game, but I've always had a great preference for I Wonder :D So four people prefer I Wonder to TNOTG. :D
abbarich wrote:
I love both, but I actually prefer Voulez-Vous. In the UK, Angeleyes was actually the main A side.

I agree here with you Rich :D As much as I like Angeleyes, I prefer Voulez-Vous.

Toni wrote: Next shock for some of you: I prefer "On and on and On" to "Lay All Your Love on Me". :D
That's a difficult choice as I love both songs, but I think if I had to choose one it would be On and On and On :D . The single A-Side/B-Side I really can't decide between is Head Over Heels and The Visitors. I absolutely love both songs, so I can't really say that I would have preferred The Visitors to have been an A Side as I'm a big fan of Head Over Heels too. I think Head Over Heels and The Visitors should have been a double A-Side single.

Toni wrote: Geordiegirl wrote: Cassandra


I agree with you, Gill. :agree:

Yes Toni, Cassandra is a great song, I said Cassandra too in one of my posts, well at least I think I did!

Lisa x

Re: Which B side was better than the A side

billydog - 13.10.2010, 12:03

This thread is crazy :lol: . I love Cassandra and think it had the quality to be a single but not at the expence of The Day Before You Came :lol: .
I think it would have been a good single in between The Day and Under Attack maybe. I also would have prefered When All Is Said And Done between One Of Us and Head Over Heels. I do prefer H.O.H to The Visitors I guess.... :roll:

S x

Re: Which B side was better than the A side

I See Red - 13.10.2010, 12:11

Yes Stu, not at the expense of The Day Before You Came :wink: Maybe at the expense of Under Attack instead, even though I like Under Attack :roll: I never actually thought about When All Is Said and Done! Wasn't it released as a single in America and made the top 30, I think it reached number 27? I think it definitely would have bettered that chart position if it had been released as a single in the UK. I think it would at least have been a top ten hit here, but maybe that's just me who thinks that.

Lisa x

Re: Which B side was better than the A side

billydog - 13.10.2010, 12:20

I agree with you Lisa, I think the last few UK singles featured Agnetha leads so heavily (L.A.Y.L.O.M, O.O.U, H.O.H, T.D.B.Y.C, U.A), Frida's final lead being Super Trouper. I missed the variation of the leads at the end and I think on any compilation with the singles in chronogic order would have benefitted from W.A.I.S.A.D between O.O.U and H.O.H. I do think of H.O.H as a double A-side with The Visitors as well :lol:

S x

Re: Which B side was better than the A side

I See Red - 13.10.2010, 12:39

billydog wrote: I agree with you Lisa, I think the last few UK singles featured Agnetha leads so heavily (L.A.Y.L.O.M, O.O.U, H.O.H, T.D.B.Y.C, U.A), Frida's final lead being Super Trouper.
Yes I always thought it was slightly unfair that on the last four singles especially, that it was always Agnetha A Side, Frida B-Side. I think they definitely should have had The Visitors and Head Over Heels as a double A-Side, and also perhaps The Day Before You Came with Cassandra could have also been a double A side. As for When All Is Said and Done, they could have released that as an A-Side with either Under Attack or another song on the B-side.

billydog wrote: I do think of H.O.H as a double A-side with The Visitors as well :lol:
Woohoo, I thought I would have been the only one who would have liked HOH/TV as a double A-side! :P

Lisa x

Re: Which B side was better than the A side

billydog - 13.10.2010, 12:43

We're agreeing a lot today Lisa :wink: :lol:

I think "Soldiers" was the B-side to W.A.I.S.A.D In most countries.
Maybe it was felt because Frida released Somethings Going On before the last couple of ABBA singles, she was getting enough solo recognition :?:
I think I.K.T.S.G.O was a single before T.D.B.Y.C :?:

S x

Re: Which B side was better than the A side

I See Red - 13.10.2010, 13:08

billydog wrote: We're agreeing a lot today Lisa :wink: :lol:
What's that wonderful saying: great minds think alike LOL!!! :wink:

billydog wrote: I think "Soldiers" was the B-side to W.A.I.S.A.D In most countries.
Well all I knew was that in the USA and in Australia, the B-side to W.A.I.S.A.D was Should I Laugh Or Cry. So Frida A-Side and Frida B-Side!

billydog wrote:
Maybe it was felt because Frida released Somethings Going On before the last couple of ABBA singles, she was getting enough solo recognition :?:
I think I.K.T.S.G.O was a single before T.D.B.Y.C :?:

Frida released I.K.T.S.G.O in september 82, and it reached number 5 in Australia and I think 13 or 14 in the USA charts. T.D.B.Y.C was released in november 1982 and only reached number 48 in Australia, don't think it charted in USA and W.A.I.S.A.D only got to 81 in Australia in april 1982!! So yes you were quite right Stu, I.K.T.S.G.O was released before T.D.B.Y.C. :D

Lisa x

Re: Which B side was better than the A side

billydog - 13.10.2010, 13:34

So maybe W.A.I.S.A.D didn't get a uk release because of all the Frida activities with Something Goings On. just a thought :D

S x

Re: Which B side was better than the A side

abbarich - 13.10.2010, 16:28

Yes, Frida didn't get a look in after ST in Europe. I wish this had been otherwise. I wouldn't have released HOH at all. They should have followed OOU with WAISAD. It would surely have been another top 10 hit. I prefer HOH's B side The visitors, but I wouldn't have released this as an A side either as The Visitor's chorus is similar to Summer Night City. Cassandra was good enough to have been a double A with TDBYC. Both ladies should have featured equally on the A sides. I think Agnetha's voice suited the more commercial type songs, which is why she featured on 11 UK A sides, while Frida only featured on 5. Rich.

Re: Which B side was better than the A side

Foreverfan - 13.10.2010, 16:35

For me there a few better B sides, if I try to look at it logically .. :roll: and then with my heart :love4:

I'd probably get different answers...

IBWFY was undoubtly stronger than So Long, would it have been a hit.. :wink: possibly I think it would have been another I Do x 5 making the lower ends of the UK chart.. this is my logical head.. :roll: just look what was happening in the charts at the time , Slade, Suzi Quatro etc etc, heart says.. :love4: a number 1 hit..

For me the strongest case for the wrong side released , and yes I'm a little bias as its a favourite is Kisses Of Fire, so much better than DYMK,
I genuinely think it could have made number one here in the UK, at the time DYMK was held back by Bright Eyes by Art Garfunkel on his 6 week reign at number one, DYMK entered the charts 3 weeks into that stint at the top and taking 2 weeks to get to its highest postion of 4 ( held back again by pop muzak and Hooray hooray ... Boney M ) I genuinely think that KOF could've made one week at number one meaning Bright Eyes on 5 weeks at number one , being displaced by KOF and in turn being displaced by Sunday Girl by Blondie.

Alas all pie in the sky and full of what ifs and maybes.. but we can dream..

Other good B sides , Cassandra, Don't think it would have helped ABBA get to number one but a possibly top 10.
The Visitors, good track and if it had been promoted correctly another potential top 10 hit here in the UK. Love Lovelight, but ...

And of course theres Thats Me.. not better than DQ but could've been huge as a seperate single.

But for me.. KOF wasted chance of ABBA's 10TH number one here in the UK.. :D

Re: Which B side was better than the A side

Geordiegirl - 13.10.2010, 20:43

I See Red wrote:
Yes I always thought it was slightly unfair that on the last four singles especially, that it was always Agnetha A Side, Frida B-Side. I think they definitely should have had The Visitors and Head Over Heels as a double A-Side, and also perhaps The Day Before You Came with Cassandra could have also been a double A side. As for When All Is Said and Done, they could have released that as an A-Side with either Under Attack or another song on the B-side.
Lisa x

I'm not sure about what you say here. I think The Visitors would have been a far better Aside than Head over Heels. t ould have showed a very different side of ABBA & I honestly think along with more careful decisions about later singles may have holted the slide. Releasing I Am The City as an A side with Cassandra as the BSide & let The Day Before You hiding in the vaults for a decade or so would have helped a lot :wink: (sorry to those of you who love it but I find the song itself sooo sooo boring). Gill

Re: Which B side was better than the A side

I See Red - 14.10.2010, 11:38

I was just going on about how I thought that taking the last few singles into consideration, they had great songs on both the A sides and the B sides. Personally, I think it would have been better if The Visitors and Head Over Heels had been a double A side. There's only a two rank difference between them in my list, which is why I said for me, it's difficult to choose between them as I love both songs so much. As for The Day Before You Came single, Cassandra is easily a track that would have been a great A side. too, so that's why I commented that The Day Before You Came and Cassandra could have been a double A-Side too. Then Stu mentioned When All Is Said and Done, which I hadn't thought of, and I thought, yes that should have been a single too. 8)

Geordiegirl wrote: Releasing I Am The City as an A side with Cassandra as the BSide & let The Day Before You hiding in the vaults for a decade or so would have helped a lot :wink: (sorry to those of you who love it but I find the song itself sooo sooo boring). Gill

I think I Am The City would probably have done well as a single as it's very uptempo, but I like The Day Before You Came 8)

Lisa x

Re: Which B side was better than the A side

MGBSG1 - 16.10.2010, 18:15

I prefer:

The Visitors over Head over Heels
Angeleyes over Voulez-Vous
IBWFY over So Long

Mark

Re: Which B side was better than the A side

drimnagh - 16.10.2010, 18:24

^^^ Yes, definitely.. although I have a soft spot for Head Over Heels.

Re: Which B side was better than the A side

onlyabba4me - 17.10.2010, 12:57

Rich - It was NOT Sweet Dreams fault that ABBA never released
'Honey Honey' in the UK & Ireland.
(Or that Epic Records didn't, to be more precise).

It would have been perfectly OK for ABBA's version to come out, the
minute the Sweet Dreams version bergan climbing the UK Top 50.

The UK Public would have decided which version to make the
bigger Hit.

In the USA, & Germany, BOTH versions were released - ABBA's
original got to No.27 in the USA, & No.2 in Germany. Sweet Dreams
lost out, & could only reach No.68 in the USA, & No.42 in Germany.

So, it was silly for Epic Records to not bother with a UK release,
for the ABBA original, just because Sweet Dreams Cover version
had been released. Epic were far, far too slow, silly, & cowardly
- at times - with UK ABBA releases. (Another mistake was not
bothering to release 'Eagle' as a 1978 Single, when it was a Hit
in several other Countries).

Anyhow, in the end, the Sweet Dreams Cover version Peaked
at No.10 in the UK's BMRB, (Official), Chart, & No.14 in Ireland.
It was the UK's 67th best Seller of 1974 - showing that it had
extremely good Sales for a No.10 Hit. (It was a No.9 Hit in the
'New Musical Express' Charts, & No.6 in the 'Melody Maker'
Charts).

ABBA failed to get higher than UK No.32 with 'Ring Ring', at
around the same time, & any sensible Record Company, would
have then rushed out 'Honey Honey' - and let the Sweet Dreams
version battle it out.

'Ring Ring' was covered by an Irish Group - The Others, in 1974,
& became a No.12 Irish Hit for them. (ABBA's original failed to
Chart there - if it was released in Ireland, that is).

Re: Which B side was better than the A side

abbarich - 17.10.2010, 23:45

onlyabba4me wrote: Rich - It was NOT Sweet Dreams fault that ABBA never released
'Honey Honey' in the UK & Ireland.
(Or that Epic Records didn't, to be more precise).

It would have been perfectly OK for ABBA's version to come out, the
minute the Sweet Dreams version bergan climbing the UK Top 50.

The UK Public would have decided which version to make the
bigger Hit.


Yes Epic should have had more faith in Honey Honey. There was possibly not enough time to release it in the UK though, having released Ring Ring first. Singles flew up the UK charts much quicker than in the US, and Sweet dreams' version of Honey Honey was already in the top 40 while Ring Ring was still in the top 40, and HH was in the top 20 2 weeks later. Hindsight is a wonderful thing. If only ABBA's HH had been released instead of RR, then ABBA may have been established in the UK 18 months earlier. And yes, Eagle was also overlooked by Epic. Not sure why. It's a classic! Rich.

Re: Which B side was better than the A side

Didi - 04.03.2011, 11:27

The Visitors was better than Head Over Heels.

Re: Which B side was better than the A side

Cordell - 05.03.2011, 11:04

Hi!

This is my list which contains the B-sides and other album songs which could have been A-sides annd therefore big hits:

I have been waiting for you/So Long
Hey Hey Helen/Bang-a-boomerang
Thank You For The Music/I am a Marionette
Eagle/Move On(Double A-side)
Angeleyes/Voulez Vous(A and B side)
Kisses of Fire/Lovelight
As Good As New/I have a dream
Chiquitita/Does Your mother know
The Visitors/Head Over Heels
Cassandra/I am the city
The Day Before You Came/Like An Angel Passing through my room
Our last summer/Happy new year(Double A-side)

Re: Which B side was better than the A side

andrewlincs - 05.03.2011, 13:32

This is a toughie....Abba's B-sides were top quality recordings as were the A sides. let me think :idea:

So Long/I've Been Waiting For You. I've Been Waiting For You in my opinion would have been a better choice as single release especially here in the Uk. That song is one of my personal favourites, and the live performance from Abba The Movie is breathtaking and both Frida and Agnetha looked amazing in that clip.

Does Your Mother Know/Kisses Of Fire. Kisses of Fire may have been a better choice or perhaps a single in its own right, and a different B Side on DYMK! That song is stronger than say Voulez Vouz in my opinion, the melody and the lyrics when played loud makes me come alive.

Head Over Heels/The Visitors. Again The Visitors (remix) would have made a great single release in its own right. I love HOH but I think that it wasnt right for the 1982 market. History...

The Day Before You Came/Cassandra. TDBYC is one of my favourites as is Cassandra. Cassandra is a great recording which is up there with Fernando etc, and if released in 1982 I am confident would have made the top 3 or even the number 1 position here in the uk. It has a beautiful melody. TDBYC was a little too long a track for single release and was so so sad, the joy had gone and it was evident in this brilliant recording.

Under Attack/You Owe Me One. Under Attack is an ok track for me, nothing special and I can remember when I first heard it (yes I can remember that far back) that I didnt care much for it either way, and today I still feel the same way. Wheras You Owe Me One was fast and furious, really like the track and I think I played the B side of this vinyl copy more than the A side. I remember buying this record for myself and my sister for Christmas (Dont think she appreciated it, nor liked it, as she was heavily into Adam Ant at the time) That second copy eventually found its way back into my collection. You Owe Me One is a cool track and should have been an Aside most definately, things may have then turned out a little differently who knows?

Andrew
x

Re: Which B side was better than the A side

abbarich - 05.03.2011, 20:02

I agree with most of what you said here Andrew. A lot of ABBA's singles could and should have been double A sides. All the ones you mentioned in fact. The only exception for me is You owe me one, which has never been a personal favourite of mine. I also think Lay all your love on me/On and on and on would have been a perfect double A side, and if it had been a 7'' instead of the 12'' that was released, may have been a third UK #1 from the ST album.
That's me was also an A side sounding B side. If they'd have saved That's me for the MMM single, I'm sure as a double A side it would have topped the UK charts and ABBA would then have had 7 consecutive #1s in the UK. If only they'd have asked me for my advice at the time! :wink: Rich.

Re: Which B side was better than the A side

Maxi-saxi - 06.03.2011, 06:26

The Visitors should have been a A side release Mind you in some country's songs that were B sides were A sides in others

Maxi-saxi

Re: Which B side was better than the A side

billydog - 07.03.2011, 20:26

I find this a difficult topic and think its easier to decide which B-side is not better than the A-side :lol: . Personally I prefer HOH to TV but, perfect double A-side, the same for TDBYC and Cassandra.
B-sides like MITM,HHH,TL,CW,HH,IAM,Medley Etc come nowhere close to surpassing their A-sides in my opinion 8)

S x

Re: Which B side was better than the A side

abbagav - 07.03.2011, 21:41

Off the top of my head:

TKHLHC is better than Gimme x 3
Lovelight is better than Chiquitita
KOF is better than DYMK.

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